4th collarbone break yesterday..... thought I'd pop in with a pictorial as I was in here back in May 2007 when I first got this one pinned. I always wondered what'd happen to a pinned clavicle if I fell hard on it again. Wonder no more! Never had a problem with the surgery/pin... (or the plating and plate removal of my left break)

May 2007:



May 2007 post op:



August 2013......


Stay tuned........ off to the specialist tomorrow to get mobile and back on the bike asap.
 
gplama, I am very sorry for your accident. How many times did you brake your CB? 4 times? are you talking for the same CB? did you have plate/screws at your Left shoulder?, Did you brake the left one also twice? as far as I can understand/see you have a new fracture in a different point which is exactly after the end of the metal pole. obviously you had a new crash, was it as severe as the first one? that would be important to know. Brad, that's the reason we must get rid of the plate when the time comes, it looks like that it changes the mechanics of the bone and a new fracture could happen which could be avoided if the plate was removed, who knows!! and this is an extra point that the plate/screws is better than the pole, since it is not possible to remove the pole later.
 
Originally Posted by willy81 .

gplama,
I am very sorry for your accident.
How many times did you brake your CB? 4 times?
are you talking for the same CB?

did you have plate/screws at your Left shoulder?, Did you brake the left one also twice?

as far as I can understand/see you have a new fracture in a different point which is exactly after the end of the metal pole.
obviously you had a new crash, was it as severe as the first one? that would be important to know.
G'day *****, wills, wanga.... sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I only just saw your post.

Yep, **** happens. Seeing how Jono handled his recent off puts things into perspective. Just deal with the now, **** is going to be ok, have good people around you, have even better coffee.

4th clavicle break. Two full displacements. Two partial/distal 3rd. Equal breaks both sides now!

Left was plated/screwed back in May 2010. Had the hardware taken out in November 2012.

This one isn't really that bad..... Not getting around in a sling, the specialist who put the pin in back in 2007 saw it this morning and was happy to leave it for 10 days and review then. Got the green light to train indoors. Good timing. Shitty outside, and I have a few things to learn about the Kickr. 8 weeks from the Masters Nationals TT I always target. Still have my foot on the gas 100% towards that. This might have even given me something more to fight for.
 
I know this may be irrelevant, but I see a lot of you have had knowledge on the matter.
I was in a motorcycle accident and fractured my clavicle into 3 pieces.

Now because of school and a new job i cant take the surgery on right now.

What are the chances of it healing fine? the only time have pain is when i wake up. i have a considerably great deal of motion, and it has only been 11 days. Opinions would be great. i am just worried about the chance of a nonunion. I'm 23 years old, i don't smoke and i am very healthy.

Thanks in advanced!
 
Originally Posted by steven ss .

I know this may be irrelevant, but I see a lot of you have had knowledge on the matter.
I was in a motorcycle accident and fractured my clavicle into 3 pieces.

Now because of school and a new job i cant take the surgery on right now.

What are the chances of it healing fine? the only time have pain is when i wake up. i have a considerably great deal of motion, and it has only been 11 days. Opinions would be great. i am just worried about the chance of a nonunion. I'm 23 years old, i don't smoke and i am very healthy.

Thanks in advanced!
Depends on too many factors. Post an X ray and some of us can give advice based on our experience, but ultimately an orthopedic surgeon should give you your options.
 
i will try to get the xrays my next visit. The doc said surgery would obviously help but I kind of dont want to go through with that.

i am in a sling right now and have been since i left the ER 7/26
 
steven ss said:
i will try to get the xrays my next visit. The doc said surgery would obviously help but I kind of dont want to go through with that. i am in a sling right now and have been since i left the ER 7/26
If the doc said it would help then do yourself a favor and get the surgery asap. You're young with lots of life ahead of you. You don't want to live with a deformed shoulder. Read through all my posts if you want some motivation towards the surgery.
 
bsbs1876 said:
steven ss said:
i will try to get the xrays my next visit. The doc said surgery would obviously help but I kind of dont want to go through with that. i am in a sling right now and have been since i left the ER 7/26
If the doc said it would help then do yourself a favor and get the surgery asap. You're young with lots of life ahead of you. You don't want to live with a deformed shoulder. Read through all my posts if you want some motivation towards the surgery.
bsbs1876 is right. take the surgery steven asap, it is an easy process and since your doctor favors it you should go ahead, surgery will make things easier for you, within 15 days after the surgery your condition will improve and you will start using your arm. I stayed in the sling only for a couple of weeks. The only way to get back to normal life soon is to go have the surgery, there is no other way believe me.
 
I broke my clavicle two weeks ago, riding in RAGBRAI (bikeride across Iowa) in a pace line led by Lance Armstrong (true story!). The problem with pacelines is that you can't see the road in front of you until you are virtually on top of it, and I hit an unannounced hole in the pavement as we were completing a turn--going about 18 mph (RAGBRAI is a ride, not a race--if it had been a race, I wouldn't have been able to see Armstrong w/a telescope!).

I've seen three orthopedic surgeons--one while I was at the ER in Des Moines, who said I didn't need surgery; one in DC, where I live, who said I definitely do need it (and perhaps, not a coincidence, he doesn't take Blue Cross/Blue Shield insurance, and charges almost $4k to perform the surgery); and one who does take BC/BS insurance (which allows about $900 for the surgeon) who told me he is "on the fence" about it, and wants to see me in a week to see how I'm doing. Weirdly, I'm in almost no pain, and really wasn''t in much pain even close to the accident--I must have literally had a lucky break, as most folks (I'm told) find it excruciating. I'm inclined not to get the surgery, especially after reading about the risks, as I seem to be doing fine, have a little weakness in lifting things, but my last doc told me that would get better, too... so, unless something changes for the worse, I'm probably gonna call it good.
 
Originally Posted by Drey Samuelson .

I broke my clavicle two weeks ago, riding in RAGBRAI (bikeride across Iowa) in a pace line led by Lance Armstrong (true story!). The problem with pacelines is that you can't see the road in front of you until you are virtually on top of it, and I hit an unannounced hole in the pavement as we were completing a turn--going about 18 mph (RAGBRAI is a ride, not a race--if it had been a race, I wouldn't have been able to see Armstrong w/a telescope!).

I've seen three orthopedic surgeons--one while I was at the ER in Des Moines, who said I didn't need surgery; one in DC, where I live, who said I definitely do need it (and perhaps, not a coincidence, he doesn't take Blue Cross/Blue Shield insurance, and charges almost $4k to perform the surgery); and one who does take BC/BS insurance (which allows about $900 for the surgeon) who told me he is "on the fence" about it, and wants to see me in a week to see how I'm doing. Weirdly, I'm in almost no pain, and really wasn''t in much pain even close to the accident--I must have literally had a lucky break, as most folks (I'm told) find it excruciating. I'm inclined not to get the surgery, especially after reading about the risks, as I seem to be doing fine, have a little weakness in lifting things, but my last doc told me that would get better, too... so, unless something changes for the worse, I'm probably gonna call it good.
Hey Drey, try to post your x ray if you can get your hands on it. I'm curious to see what your break looks like since you have mixed opinions from surgeons.
 
Drey Samuelson there is only one way to be the same as before and this is only if you go ahead with the surgery. Bsbs can tell you about his experience and I can tell you mine. I was operated in less than 24 hours after the accident, pain was very little after and generally I am very glad I had the operation. Don't fool yourself without the surgery you are not going to be the same again, your trunk will deform, I don't know your finances but 4K is not much and remember this is the ticket to get your health back, Personally I rather spend for my health than for anything else,
 
willy81 said:
Drey Samuelson there is only one way to be the same as before and this is only if you go ahead with the surgery. Bsbs can tell you about his experience and I can tell you mine. I was operated in less than 24 hours after the accident, pain was very little after and generally I am very glad I had the operation. Don't fool yourself without the surgery you are not going to be the same again, your trunk will deform, I don't know your finances but 4K is not much and remember this is the ticket to get your health back, Personally I rather spend for my health than for anything else,
Interestingly, one of his doctors doesn't share your valued medical opinion. Odd that is. Since you're not a doctor, perhaps you should refrain from making such absolute statements that cannot be backed up.
 
Originally Posted by alienator .


Interestingly, one of his doctors doesn't share your valued medical opinion. Odd that is. Since you're not a doctor, perhaps you should refrain from making such absolute statements that cannot be backed up.
Let's be careful with these sorts of comments and assertions.

My first doctor evaluated my break and placed me in a sling stating that I'd be healed in 6 weeks. The distal end of my clav was not only broken and pushed several inches away from the shaft, but was also shattered. She also made no considerations for the grade III rupture of the coracoclavicular ligament. With all of the damage, I would NEVER have a union of the fractured bones and the clavicle would remain pointing upward and separated from the rest of the shoulder joint. If I had followed her diagnosis and treatment, I wouldn't have stability or strength to ride. Yes, I would be healed (meaning that the body would recover from the trauma) but not in any manner resembling normalcy.

Doctors have divergent diagnosis due to their different experiences and education. As patients, we need to have enough data to make well-informed decisions rather than to rely on the consultation of one medical professional. Going to an internet discussion board should NEVER substitute for medical consultation. Here, we merely share our own experiences to provide others with patient-insight that allows others to go back to their doctors to ask more detailed questions.

We need to refrain from giving medical advice. Just provide these people with our experiences...rather than telling them what treatment then need.
 
67Rally said:
Doctors have divergent diagnosis due to their different experiences and education. As patients, we need to have enough data to make well-informed decisions rather than to rely on the consultation of one medical professional. Going to an internet discussion board should NEVER substitute for medical consultation. Here, we merely share our own experiences to provide others with patient-insight that allows others to go back to their doctors to ask more detailed questions. We need to refrain from giving medical advice. Just provide these people with our experiences...rather than telling them what treatment then need.
I agree. In that light, BS comments such as those I commented about need to be pointed out for what they are.
 
I agree with you all. I don't consider myself a doctor in the least bit. I ask to see x rays to give my input based on years of experience and extensive research on this injury. Seeing the displacement and angle can allow me to make a suggestion to the poster.
 
bsbs1876 said:
I agree with you all. I don't consider myself a doctor in the least bit. I ask to see x rays to give my input based on years of experience and extensive research on this injury. Seeing the displacement and angle can allow me to make a suggestion to the poster.
Maybe you'll get an honorary medical degree given the deep medical insight that your vast research has gained you. I'm surprised you don't perform surgeries.
 
alienator, since you are so smart can you tell us how a broken CB will align without surgery? this is a question NO DOCTOR on this planet can answer since a broken CB will never align without a surgery. so don't try to be smart because you actually prove exactly the opposite.