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    in article [email hidden], Michael Paul at [email hidden] wrote on
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    Yes, they're both better than your Catamount.

    Oh, really....... Then I don¹t need one...........

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  2. "Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... Any insight to share?

    Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

    Discuss:

    Thanks, mtbchip

    Who makes the Spider?

    The bigger, badder spider.

    Bill "on a related note, Intense makes the Spyder I believe" S.

    Scratch that.

    Bill "in private, if you please" S.

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    Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials. =20

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  4. "Anthony Sloan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "Anthony Sloan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    mtbchip wrote:

    >Any insight to share?
    >
    >Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.
    >
    >Discuss:
    >
    >Thanks, mtbchip
    >
    >
    I have a blur, I love my blur.

    My thoughts:

    If you are mainly racing, and plan on doing quite well, the Spyder is the bike (Of those 2...).

    If you are mainly XC riding, go for the cheaper, longer travel blur.

    A

    Toss em' both and get a Jamis or Titus


    Well after a strong and promising start, your thesis implodes under its own weight.

    Truly, should the original poster cast aside the Spyder and the Blur in favor of this?:
    jamisbikes.com03 2citizen.html

    Or this?: titusti.comfcrroad frame.jpg

    This. Definitely. Yeah Baby.
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    Bill's currently pulling his defending hte nation card and won't be back = in port for two weeks but
    he brought his bike with him and is riding it = whenever he can. shoot each one of them an e-mail
    and see what they = think. However, my guess is that Kevin loves his Blur since, well, he's = coming
    off of the same stellar fully that you've grown in love with for = all these years. Bill's initial
    response was that the bike was great. = I'm not sure how Kevin built his up but Bill dropped major
    coin on his = and built it with the new Fox fork up front (not the one iwth the = inertial valve)
    and full XTR so it wadn't cheap! Perhaps you need to = put your salesman face on and organize a ride
    where both of them show up = so you can potentially try each on on different sections of trail. Of =
    course, that would mean that they'd have to ride your bike............

    Michael "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message = "]news:[email hidden]... Any
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    Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials. =20

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    Blur VS Spider

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    "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message = "]news:[email hidden]... Any
    insight to share?

    Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials. =20

    Discuss:

    Thanks, mtbchip

    July Mountain Bike Action has a stable platform comparison where = both bikes are rated. As I
    doubt anyone posting here has ever seen a = Spider, much less ridden one, that may be a good
    starting point.=20

    MTBBill just had one built up and is currently riding the Pacific NW = with Blaine Bauer on it.
    I'm sure he'll be able to report back in 2 = weeks upon his return. He did tell me that after
    his initial test ride = the bike handled wonderfully and was a joy to ride.

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  7. Quoted message said:

    Blur VS Spider "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
    Any insight to share?

    Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

    Discuss:

    Thanks, mtbchip

    July Mountain Bike Action has a stable platform comparison where both bikes are rated. As I
    doubt anyone posting here has ever seen a Spider, much less ridden one, that may be a good
    starting point.

    Yeah, the ragazines know it all and there is no bias even if the bikes are advertised heavily in
    their rags. Get real.

    JD

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    in article [email hidden], Michael Paul at [email hidden] wrote on
    6/10/03 8:45 AM:

    Quoted message said:

    You do know that Kevin has a Blur and Bill Porter has a Spider right?

    Bill's currently pulling his defending hte nation card and won't be back in port for two weeks but
    he brought his bike with him and is riding it whenever he can. shoot each one of them an e-mail
    and see what they think. However, my guess is that Kevin loves his Blur since, well, he's coming
    off of the same stellar fully that you've grown in love with for all these years. Bill's initial
    response was that the bike was great. I'm not sure how Kevin built his up but Bill dropped major
    coin on his and built it with the new Fox fork up front (not the one iwth the inertial valve) and
    full XTR so it wadn't cheap! Perhaps you need to put your salesman face on and organize a ride
    where both of them show up so you can potentially try each on on different sections of trail. Of
    course, that would mean that they'd have to ride your bike............

    I¹ve seen Kevin¹s, a full XTR Blur, well over $4K spent. Bill Bacon got a Blur, more my size, and
    I¹ll be riding that soon. He went about $2800 into the hole. I saw a post from BB in the great NW,
    Bill riding along for the thrills. I¹m looking forward to checking out Porters Spyder. JD & Sorni
    (Titus FrEaKs) suggest Titus, and the Racer X looks pretty tempting. I¹ll be Catapulting the
    Catamount by year end, and by then, with all the reading , NG suggestions, and trial rides will prob
    end up on a recumbant <;-)

    mtbchip

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    [email hidden]= , Michael Paul at [email hidden] wrote on 6/10/03
    8:45 AM:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">You do know that Kevin=
    has a Blur and Bill Porter has a Spider right?<BR> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Geneva"> <BR>
    </FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Bill's currently pulling his defen= ding hte nation
    card and won't be back in port for two weeks but he brought = his bike with him and is riding it
    whenever he can. shoot each one of = them an e-mail and see what they think. However, my
    guess is that Kevi= n loves his Blur since, well, he's coming off of the same stellar fully that=
    you've grown in love with for all these years. Bill's initial respons= e was that the bike was
    great. I'm not sure how Kevin built his up but= Bill dropped major coin on his and built it
    with the new Fox fork up front = (not the one iwth the inertial valve) and full XTR so it wadn't
    cheap! &nbsp= ;Perhaps you need to put your salesman face on and organize a ride where bot= h of
    them show up so you can potentially try each on on different sections o= f trail. Of course,
    that would mean that they'd have to ride your bike= ............<BR>
    </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Geneva"><BR> I’ve seen Kevin’s, a full XTR
    Blur, well over $4K spent. = Bill Bacon got a Blur, more my size, and I’ll be riding
    that soon. &nb= sp;He went about $2800 into the hole. I saw a post from BB in the grea= t NW,
    Bill riding along for the thrills. I’m looking forward to = checking out Porters Spyder.
    JD & Sorni (Titus FrEaKs) sugge= st Titus, and the Racer X looks pretty tempting.
    I’ll be Catapul= ting the Catamount by year end, and by then, with all the reading , NG
    sugge= stions, and trial rides will prob end up on a recumbant <;-)<BR> <BR> mtbchip</FONT>
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  9. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Blur VS Spider "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... Any insight to share?

    Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

    Discuss:

    Thanks, mtbchip

    July Mountain Bike Action has a stable platform comparison where both bikes are rated. As I
    doubt anyone posting here has ever seen a Spider, much less ridden one, that may be a good
    starting point.

    Yeah, the ragazines know it all and there is no bias even if the bikes are advertised heavily in
    their rags. Get real.

    JD

    You mean like last year when Mountain Bike stood by its review of a SID as being a poor performer
    and lost Rockshox's advertising because of it???

  10. Quoted message said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Blur VS Spider "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... Any insight to share?

    Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

    Discuss:

    Thanks, mtbchip

    July Mountain Bike Action has a stable platform comparison where both bikes are rated. As I
    doubt anyone posting here has ever seen a Spider, much less ridden one, that may be a good
    starting point.

    Yeah, the ragazines know it all and there is no bias even if the bikes are advertised heavily in
    their rags. Get real.

    JD

    You mean like last year when Mountain Bike stood by its review of a SID as being a poor performer
    and lost Rockshox's advertising because of it???

    That's really funny, especially since the RockSux Sad has been well known as a piece of [censored] for
    many years now. Big deal, some rag *finally* admitted it and you were stupid enough to buy it to see
    that. Thanks for proving your own naivete.

    JD

  11. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Jd
    > "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Blur VS Spider "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... Any insight to share?

    Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

    Discuss:

    Thanks, mtbchip

    July Mountain Bike Action has a stable platform comparison where both bikes are rated. As I
    doubt anyone posting here has ever seen a Spider, much less ridden one, that may be a good
    starting point.

    Yeah, the ragazines know it all and there is no bias even if the bikes are advertised heavily in
    their rags. Get real.

    JD

    You mean like last year when Mountain Bike stood by its review of a SID as being a poor performer
    and lost Rockshox's advertising because of it???



    That's really funny, especially since the RockSux Sad has been well known as a piece of **** for
    many years now. Big deal, some rag *finally* admitted it and you were stupid enough to buy it to see
    that. Thanks for proving your own naivete.

    JD

    The Truth
    So, This is the real deal. I know some of the mags do that...
    What I can tell you is BIKE mag DOES NOT! I know those guys and would have thought that to be the standard. I think it reflects in the size of the mag... some things do suck and are dumped on us as paying beta testers. Slam em.

    As for the Spyder, Jeff at Intense provided Spiders for us to race on in a 24hr race. We raced for Shimano and did compairisons to our bikes which were all current $5K + bikes. I am on my 44th mtn. bike and by far this bike is the best to date! Easy setup and NO bob.

    I ride a custom H.T. and cant wait till my Spider arives. As allways, it's up to you - not worth going round and round about. this is the new era. It is what is.

    I got my wife a Blur and she loves it - both are killer bikes if you can get one. As of this writing, both company's are super B/O on the VPP's.

    Hope this helps.
    GB

  12. gregg says:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The Truth So, This is the real deal.

    Quoted message said:

    I am on my 44th mtn. bike and by far this bike is the best to date!

    and

    Quoted message said:

    It is what is.

    That's 44 mountain bikes in how many years? Even assuming that "muontain bikes" as such appeared in
    stores in the mid-seventies, they have only been around for 28 years. That's over one-and-a-half
    bikes per year. I doubt you had time to ride any of them sufficiently to really get to know them
    well enough to feel that this is the best yet. I could be wrong....... (and frequently am)
    .......but even given unlimited funds that excessive consumption. ;-)

    Steve

  13. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Stephen Baker
    gregg says:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The Truth So, This is the real deal.



    Quoted message said:

    I am on my 44th mtn. bike and by far this bike is the best to date!



    and

    Quoted message said:

    It is what is.



    That's 44 mountain bikes in how many years? Even assuming that "muontain bikes" as such appeared in
    stores in the mid-seventies, they have only been around for 28 years. That's over one-and-a-half
    bikes per year. I doubt you had time to ride any of them sufficiently to really get to know them
    well enough to feel that this is the best yet. I could be wrong....... (and frequently am)
    .......but even given unlimited funds that excessive consumption. ;-)

    Steve

    Steve- <I don't even know why I would respond to this>
    I worked in a shop in 1980 - as well as many after that- We built our first MTB's out of Schwinn 10 speed frames with a Campy frame bending tool. That was the start. Rather than list every bike since then - I was a bike rep for some time as well sports model that alone provided many bikes.

    MTB's changed my life. I met my wife and had a kid due to these bikes - I would have not been in Moab when she was if not to ride.

    I am not bashing you, but if you road every day as I have for a long time, you would understand that you can tell alot from a bike in not too long a time.

    The only reason I put how many bikes I've had was to give a reader some background. If you knew me you would be super surprised to hear me make a statment like I have about the Spider.

    I do still work in the bike buss. However, we now produce many cycling shows you see on TV.

    I only made my post to relate my impression of the Spider.

    Also FYI: MTB's were not in shops in the mid 70's

    Ride on-
    GB

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    gregg says:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The Truth So, This is the real deal.

    Quoted message said:

    I am on my 44th mtn. bike and by far this bike is the best to date!

    and

    Quoted message said:

    It is what is.

    That's 44 mountain bikes in how many years? Even assuming that "muontain bikes" as such appeared
    in stores in the mid-seventies, they have only been around for 28 years. That's over
    one-and-a-half bikes per year. I doubt you had time to ride any of them sufficiently to really get
    to know them well enough to feel that this is the best yet. I could be wrong....... (and
    frequently am) .......but even given unlimited funds that excessive consumption. ;-)

    Those half bikes probably took twice as long to ride.
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  15. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Chris Phillipo
    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    gregg says:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The Truth So, This is the real deal.

    Quoted message said:

    I am on my 44th mtn. bike and by far this bike is the best to date!

    and

    Quoted message said:

    It is what is.

    That's 44 mountain bikes in how many years? Even assuming that "muontain bikes" as such appeared
    in stores in the mid-seventies, they have only been around for 28 years. That's over
    one-and-a-half bikes per year. I doubt you had time to ride any of them sufficiently to really get
    to know them well enough to feel that this is the best yet. I could be wrong....... (and
    frequently am) .......but even given unlimited funds that excessive consumption. ;-)



    Those half bikes probably took twice as long to ride.
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    Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-online.comramsays-online.com

    Ya- thinking back............ they were!
    Some of the old bikes rode like half bikes-

  16. "gregg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was a bike rep for some time as well sports model that alone provided


    many bikes.

    Sports model??? Sorry, this group already has a pretty boy; goes by the name of "JD".

    Bill "I just kept snippin' and snippin'..." S.

  17. gregg says:

    <snip explanatory stuff, noted>

    Quoted message said:

    Also FYI: MTB's were not in shops in the mid 70's

    I know that _very_ well, I was just trying tot give you a few more years to have accumulated
    bikes in. ;-) I was riding knobbies on the dirt on a Sturmey-Archer 3-speed back in 1971/2 in
    England. Believe me, if they had had anything in the shops that even looked like that, I would
    have stolen one...

    Steve

  18. Quoted message said:

    As for the Spyder, Jeff at Intense provided Spiders for us to race on in a 24hr race. We raced for
    Shimano and did compairisons to our bikes which were all current $5K + bikes. I am on my 44th mtn.
    bike and by far this bike is the best to date! Easy setup and NO bob.

    Which 24hr races where you riding the Spider in? I got to put my fingers on a Spider for the first
    time at the 24hrs of Temecula and it was the Shimano guys that had it. Pretty much sealed the deal
    for me at that point. My LBS (supergo) was able to get my frame despite the backorders in short
    order. I have had mine now for a month and love
    it.

    Bill Porter www.mountainbikebill.com

  19. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Bill Porter
    >As for the Spyder, Jeff at Intense provided Spiders for us to race on in a 24hr race. We raced for

    Quoted message said:

    Shimano and did compairisons to our bikes which were all current $5K + bikes. I am on my 44th mtn.
    bike and by far this bike is the best to date! Easy setup and NO bob.



    Which 24hr races where you riding the Spider in? I got to put my fingers on a Spider for the first
    time at the 24hrs of Temecula and it was the Shimano guys that had it. Pretty much sealed the deal
    for me at that point. My LBS (supergo) was able to get my frame despite the backorders in short
    order. I have had mine now for a month and love
    it.

    Bill Porter www.mountainbikebill.com

    Good for you bill- We raced them at 24hrs of Temecula with Shimano. I may have met you there.
    GB

  20. Be careful with the stand over height and length of the blur. I am 5' 10" (175 cm) with a 31" (79
    cm) inseame and can not fit on any of the Blurs. The medium is way too short with a 15 cm stem and
    way too tall with a 100 mm fork. The large is OK in length but even with a 63 mm fork I could not
    stand over it. The small was so short it felt like a BMX bike, I would need a 20 cm stem to feel
    even OK on it.

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