Blur VS Spider

Blur VS Spider "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

Discuss:

Thanks, mtbchip

Spider for XC racing, Blur for trail, but either works for me :-)

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Blur VS Spider "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

Discuss:

Thanks, mtbchip

Spider for XC racing, Blur for trail, but either works for me :-)

Spider actually isn't that much lighter. Quarter/half a pound - not the claimed pound+. Worth the
extra money? Dunno.

Jon Bond

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Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

Discuss:

Thanks, mtbchip

Ok MTBRasta, neither. Get a Titus or get screwed.

JD

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6/9/03 6:40 AM:

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Ok MTBRasta, neither. Get a Titus or get screwed.

JD

That was RastaMTB.......Hello from Losocal!

Titus, is that an OBJECTIVE opinion?!?!? I know you like yer bike big guy. Which Titus is it? Is the
Model "Screwed" or is that what happens if I don't buy one. The message is kinda cryptic..........

More info needed for lesser minds.

mtbchip

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Blur VS Spider "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]... Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

Discuss:

Thanks, mtbchip

Spider for XC racing, Blur for trail, but either works for me :-)

Spider actually isn't that much lighter. Quarter/half a pound - not the claimed pound+. Worth the
extra money? Dunno.

Jon Bond

Intense doesn't make complete bikes, so the weight issue is dependent on how much money you
want to spend.

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Blur VS Spider "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]... Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

Discuss:

Thanks, mtbchip

Spider for XC racing, Blur for trail, but either works for me :-)

Spider actually isn't that much lighter. Quarter/half a pound - not the claimed pound+. Worth
the extra money? Dunno.

Jon Bond

Intense doesn't make complete bikes, so the weight issue is dependent on

how

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much money you want to spend.

I'm talking frames here. The spider was claimed to be a lot lighter, hence making it more of an XC
race bike. Its really not all that much lighter than the blur frame. All other things being equal,
the spider frame won't save you much weight. If there's a ride difference, well, maybe, I dunno. But
there's certainly a price one!

Jon Bond

mtbchip said:

Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

Discuss:

Thanks, mtbchip

I have a blur, I love my blur.

My thoughts:

If you are mainly racing, and plan on doing quite well, the Spyder is the bike (Of those 2...).

If you are mainly XC riding, go for the cheaper, longer travel blur.

A

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mtbchip said:

Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

Discuss:

Thanks, mtbchip

I have a blur, I love my blur.

My thoughts:

If you are mainly racing, and plan on doing quite well, the Spyder is the bike (Of those 2...).

If you are mainly XC riding, go for the cheaper, longer travel blur.

A

Toss em' both and get a Jamis or Titus

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> Blur VS Spider "mtbchip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.
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> Discuss:
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> Thanks, mtbchip
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> Spider for XC racing, Blur for trail, but either works for me :-)

Spider actually isn't that much lighter. Quarter/half a pound - not

the

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claimed pound+. Worth the extra money? Dunno.

Jon Bond

Intense doesn't make complete bikes, so the weight issue is dependent on

how

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much money you want to spend.

I'm talking frames here. The spider was claimed to be a lot lighter,

hence

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making it more of an XC race bike. Its really not all that much lighter than the blur frame. All
other things being equal, the spider frame won't save you much weight. If there's a ride
difference, well, maybe, I dunno. But there's certainly a price one!

Jon Bond

no kidding

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Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

Discuss:

What, couldn't find a Catamount on E-bay? 🙂

Bill "Titus Switchblade, baby" S.

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mtbchip said:

Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

Discuss:

Thanks, mtbchip

I have a blur, I love my blur.

My thoughts:

If you are mainly racing, and plan on doing quite well, the Spyder is the bike (Of those 2...).

If you are mainly XC riding, go for the cheaper, longer travel blur.

A

Toss em' both and get a Jamis or Titus

Well after a strong and promising start, your thesis implodes under its own weight.

Truly, should the original poster cast aside the Spyder and the Blur in favor of this?:
jamisbikes.com03 2citizen.htmlOpen ↗

Or this?: titusti.comfcrroad frame.jpgOpen ↗

Discuss.

A

mtbchip said:

Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

My $0.02:

Neither, and not the Epic either, at least not now. AFAIC, they're all too heavy to qualify as
"x-c" especially if you race. Not to mention they are complicated in design and reportedly
difficult to set up.

I have a good old single pivot Superlight and it works just fine, easy to set up, and it's lighter
(but still heavier than any hardtail). The shock locks out to compensate for the inherent design
flaw, but it's a minor inconvenience. I think JD's recommendation of Titus might be even better if
you have to buy right now.

But otherwise I'd wait for more evolution and improvement of the whole stable platform concept. It's
too new and needs to be tweaked in the next year or two. About the time my Superlight will be ready
to be traded in, in fact ;-) --dt

Doug Taylor said:

mtbchip said:

Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

My $0.02: Not to mention they are complicated in design and reportedly difficult to set up.

It's just pivots. The basic premise has been around for years. As for difficulty in setting up, mine
presented no problems. I set it up to the recommended specs and it works quite nicely.

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I have a good old single pivot Superlight and it works just fine, easy to set up, and it's lighter
(but still heavier than any hardtail). The shock locks out to compensate for the inherent design
flaw, but it's a minor inconvenience. I think JD's recommendation of Titus might be even better if
you have to buy right now.

Titus makes a darn fine bike.

A

Anthony Sloan said:

Truly, should the original poster cast aside the Spyder and the Blur in favor of this?:
jamisbikes.com03 2citizen.htmlOpen ↗

Nice RED jockey wheel!!!!

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Or this?: titusti.comfcrroad frame.jpgOpen ↗

Ti frame Deep-V rims

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Discuss.

it's a start.....

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mtbchip said:

Any insight to share?

Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

My $0.02:

Neither, and not the Epic either, at least not now. AFAIC, they're all too heavy to qualify as
"x-c" especially if you race. Not to mention they are complicated in design and reportedly
difficult to set up.

Same number of pivots as a FSR, or other four bar. Because it actually IS a four bar... I'll comment
on setup soon, but the hard "stable platform" setup parts are the SPV/5th element shocks, which are
optional, and maybe not needed.

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I have a good old single pivot Superlight and it works just fine, easy to set up, and it's lighter
(but still heavier than any hardtail). The shock locks out to compensate for the inherent design
flaw, but it's a minor inconvenience. I think JD's recommendation of Titus might be even better if
you have to buy right now.

Titus makes damn nice bikes too. Almost went for a Loco Moto. Would have gotten a racer-X if they
were optimized for 100mm shocks and not $1600 (more for a Hammerhead 100x, which is exactly what
I wanted).

Jon Bond

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But otherwise I'd wait for more evolution and improvement of the whole stable platform concept.
It's too new and needs to be tweaked in the next year or two. About the time my Superlight will be
ready to be traded in, in fact ;-) --dt

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Looking at a newer XC bike, these two pop up as potentials.

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Thanks, mtbchip

Who makes the Spider?

The bigger, badder spider.

Bill "on a related note, Intense makes the Spyder I believe" S.

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Who makes the Spider?

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