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> I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your
> Christ. - Mohandas Gandhi

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I think that's is one of the most clever remarks I've ever "heard". And so F'ing true.

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that bit of drivel posted here on ARBR every time someone gets to feeling holier than thou.
Gandhi hardly got anything in his life right. He was a mess.

Mr. Dolan, what do you know about Gandhi? He liberated his country from an imperialist occupation
without firing a shot. A mess? Hardly. If you think Jesus Christ would approve of war
mongering in order to spread his beliefs...you have something else coming.

Edward Wong

I will admit that I do not know too much about Gandhi, surely not as much as Mr. Sherman who seems
to be able to drop a quotation from him on this newsgroup on every chance occasion. However, he was
an Indian and India is and always has been such a mess, that I cannot take anyone coming out of that
accursed land with any seriousness, most especially when they are bent on lecturing the West. It is
about on a par with the Devil lecturing God on goodness and virtue.

It is absurd that we in the West would listen to anything someone like Gandhi would have to say
about us. Only Mr. Sherman and similar types who do not much like the West would listen to Gandhi's
meandering mumbling about the West let alone furnish us with quotations from him. I prefer my
philosophers to be from and for the West, not from a basket case from Hell like India and very much
against the West. But it you like Gandhi, you are welcome to him.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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I'm not a religious guy, at least not in the orthodox sense, but I do respect the religion of
others as long as they aren't trying to shoot me or blow up the place where I work. Christians
for sure aren't on the P.C. protected list so you will see this sort of anti-Christian stuff
posted here. They do it because they can get away with it.

"They"? The godless commies on their _red_ bikes?

Poor Mr. Seierup! He still thinks the Soviet Union is about to over run Europe, not yet realizing
that the Soviet Union was decisively defeated by The United States of America this past century
(thanks in large measure to President Reagan). But worry on about the "commies", even though it is
the Muslim terrorists you should be worried about. But I guess that won't happen until they blow a
few holes in Copenhagen.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Nope, won't read it because you did not precede it with some kind of introductory or appropriate
comment. If you want me to read what you submit, you must let me know what you think of what you are
submitting so I can either agree or disagree with you. That seems fair to me.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Turn your monitor upside down then.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

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By the way, top posting is considered bad netiquette. Refusing to conform to accepted societal
norms of polite behavior is another sign of
psychological disorder.

Damn Lorenzo! I couldn't agree with you more on all the top posting that is going on here of late.
I think any and all posts should have a bit of what has preceded at the top where it logically
belongs. It need not be the entire message, but only that part you are responding too, but damn
it, it should be at the top and not down at the bottom! This is not rocket science.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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...The gutter belongs to me!

***CHEAP SHOT***

Crawling up out of the sewer then, eh?

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

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... I will admit that I do not know too much about Gandhi, surely not as much as Mr. Sherman who
seems to be able to drop a quotation from him on this newsgroup on every chance occasion....

To brighten Mr. Dolan's day:

"Jesus was the most active resister known perhaps to history. His was nonviolence par excellence." -
Mohandas Gandhi

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

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"Mikael Seierup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"skip" skrev...

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I'm not a religious guy, at least not in the orthodox sense, but I do respect the religion of
others as long as they aren't trying to shoot me or blow up the place where I work. Christians
for sure aren't on the P.C. protected list so you will see this sort of anti-Christian stuff
posted here. They do it because they can get away with it.

"They"? The godless commies on their _red_ bikes?

Poor Mr. Seierup! He still thinks the Soviet Union is about to over run Europe, not yet realizing
that the Soviet Union was decisively defeated by The United States of America this past century
(thanks in large measure to President Reagan). But worry on about the "commies", even though it is
the Muslim terrorists you should be worried about. But I guess that won't happen until they blow a
few holes in Copenhagen.

It can be safely assumed in most cases that anyone using the term "godless commies" is not being
too serious.

P.S. I hope Rush Limbaugh gets bitten by a Felis concolor.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

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Personally I prefer "Top Posting" so I don't have to scan all the bull [censored] of prior posts.

But all that is involved is scanning, not a reread of the prior post word for word. It is necessary
for orientation for others that may be just picking up on that particular message and not following
all the prior posts in the thread. I do think that it is not always necessary to post the entire
previous post but just that portion of it that you are responding to.

For instance, you could have managed your post much better. Here is how I would have done it:

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By the way, top posting is considered bad netiquette. Refusing to conform to accepted societal
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sign of

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psychological disorder.

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Personally I prefer "Top Posting" so I don't have to scan all the

bull

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Bentbiker

Everything else could have been eliminated entirely as it is not germane to what you are responding
to. And since you are in fact responding to something that was written prior to your post it
naturally follows that it should precede what you have written. This makes it all that much easier
for the reader to follow what is being said. And after all, that is the only reason that any of us
are here in the first place.

I would be interested in what others on this newsgroup have to say about the correct and best way
of posting messages here on ARBR. I am fairly new at this myself and I have mostly modeled my own
posts after
Mr. Sherman. Surely clarity for the reader has got to be the main consideration.

I think it is always important to make sure that the correct person gets credited with what he has
said so that there is no confusion as to who said what. But I am not always sure the best way of
accomplishing this. I notice that some do not do any editing at all, but I am inclined to do a bit
of editing, but I will admit you have to be careful so as to do justice to the prior post. Too much
editing is probably worse than too little editing.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

I am leaving all the rest of Bentbiker's post included at the bottom so that we can all clearly see
how unnecessary it is to have it here at all.

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"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Making no sense again. I thought he answered your question quite nicely. If anything was vague,
it was your question. If you

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technical details you could have asked a follow up. But you gave

no

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hint that you were not satisfied with his answer, seemingly because somebody beat you at your own
game by saying they paid full price

for

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a Bigha.

What confuses me is how you've stated many times people will defend their purchases just to avoid
looking bad, but now seem to think

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are the only objective reviews. And then a Bigha owner steps up to give his opinion and you deem
it worthless.

Mr Love seems to be talking out of several sides of the same mouth

to

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attack a bike he supposedly hasn't even seen. Why the vendetta?

Is

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he perhaps a disgruntled ex-Bigha employee?

Still lying. What kind of psychological problems compel people to continually lie in support of a
bicycle that they themselves would

never

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buy? Only someone who has paid full price for anything can determine

if

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it is worth the price. I have never said otherwise. In fact I have several times said that reviews
from people who get items for free

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little value. The one solitary person who has said they had bought a Bigha seems to like it a lot,
but he declines to gives any objective details on why. Meanwhile, Mr. Turner, who will not buy a
Bigha, continues to defend this bicycle. What possible reason is there for this? Is he really a
Bigha employee? Or is he just another psycho?

By the way, top posting is considered bad netiquette. Refusing to conform to accepted societal
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psychological disorder.

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?In the old days being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody?s

crazy.?

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Charles Manson

What have I lied about? I expressed an opinion that the Bigha owner answered your question nicely.
If you do not agree with this, fine by
me. But the fact that you failed to ask a follow-up or express any dissatisfaction to this answer
speaks volumes to me.

I do not think you're a liar, Mr Love. I think you are downright crazy. You quote Charles Manson
and wage an extremist Jihad against a bike which you haven't even seen. Call me a Bigha employee,
correct my netiquette and dodge the issue all you want, but the question remains: Why do you
continually talk out of both sides of your mouth? You've been caught several times here, and when
confronted you only revert to your childish ramblings. A direct answer would be appreciated.

Thank you.

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Here's a direct answer. Your three previous posts each contained a deliberate blatant lie about
what I have said. You have repeatedly demonstrated that you can not be trusted in anything you
say. You attack me for asking questions and fanatically defend a bicycle that you yourself would
not buy. You are psychologically disturbed. Please seek help from a mental health professional.

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

"The worst-tempered people I've ever met were people who knew they were wrong." Wilson Mizner,
American playwright (1876-1933).

Could you please point out an exact instance of my lying? I've reread each post and believe them to
be truthful. Where am I wrong?

Here are some instances of you lying:

1) You've said reviewers who don't pay full price cannot be trusted. Only full price customers can
provide a truly objective view. When a Bigha customer comes along and provides his insight, you
dismiss it as "vague" and "objective." Now you say (and you've said this before) that people will
do anything to defend their ignorant purchases.

So which is it? Who's to be trusted for reviews? It would seem that in the case of your personal
Jihad against Bigha you will say anything to maintain your delusional stance.

2) You claim the Bigha owner's answer to your question to be unsatisfactory, however you failed -
and have yet to - ask a follow up question. You asked why he liked the bike and bought it even
though it was more expensive than others. He said it was nicer than any other bike he's seen and
he bought it because it makes him happy. That seems like a good enough answer to me.

The real reason you did not ask a follow-up is that you know you've lost the argument. LLL has never
failed to get the last word in, especially in his Bigha Jihad. This time all of his arguments were
defeated, and he simply had no comeback. Be a man and admit it.

3) Why do you continually say I'm defending this bike? I may have said nice things about Bigha in
the past, but I believe my posts on this particular thread have been aimed at pointing out your
lies and not discussing the highs and lows of a Bigha. Yet another distractionary tactic by LLL.

By the way, forcing us to click the "read the rest of this message" button to see your post is
EXTREMELY poor netiquette. Following some obscure rule about not top-posting to the point of making
your own message difficult to read just goes to show how little of the big picture you really see.

Finally, do you think a mental health professional could help me or any of us? I think we all know
LLL would never recommend a product or service he himself has not tried. The only question is: did
you pay full price or did you get a specail reviewer's discount?

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Then you are a [censored] poor Christian, you God Damn Moran!

What is a "Moran"?

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

You are hereby appointed to be my editor. How the devil do you expect me to get every word exactly
right when I am so blooming mad that I can't see straight! Moran should be moron of course. But MLB
understands what I am saying to him surely. We morons understand one another even though we
sometimes get our words all screwed up. The important thing is to convey the requisite negative
emotions. I do not think I am ever lacking in that department.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Why don't we try not to beat up on anyone. A few bad apples in the basket does not make the bushel bad.

Donald Hennessey

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I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. -
Mohandas Gandhi

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I think that's is one of the most clever remarks I've ever "heard". And so F'ing true.

that bit of drivel posted here on ARBR every time someone gets to feeling holier than thou. Gandhi
hardly got anything in his life right. He was a mess.

Instead of attacking and berating Christians, maybe you could say a few words about the Muslims,
including the extremists who are wreaking all the havoc in the world today. But as always you have
your head screwed on crooked and so you can't ever get anything right. Congratulations. I admire
people who are consistent about things, even if consistently wrong.

Only cowards and scoundrels beat up on Christians because it is OK and politically correct to do so.
Why don't you show some courage and try beating up on a group who are not so politically correct,
like maybe the Muslims for instance. All this anti-Christian [censored] here is disgusting - and why
pretend to have a reverence for Jesus Christ? You are lying about that the same as you are lying
about his followers. The Devil take you!

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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What is it you want now? Saddam back?

While Bush was busy with the conquest of Iraq, the Taliban have been making a comeback in
Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden is alive and free.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

It is all one war with subdivisions. Syria and Iran may one day be part of the war too. But what
does it matter to you whether we are successful in Iraq or Afghanistan. All you and your kind want
to do is to cut and run. You like events like Somalia (Mogadishu). You are a defeatist. I am
thankful everyday that Bush is in office and not the cut and runners (otherwise known as liberal
Dems) who would like nothing better than to see this country weak and dependent on the UN. That is
my definition of treason.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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"They"? The godless commies on their _red_ bikes?

Poor Mr. Seierup! He still thinks the Soviet Union is about to over run Europe, not yet
realizing that the Soviet Union was decisively defeated by The United States of America this
past century (thanks in large measure to President Reagan). But worry on about the "commies",
even though it is the Muslim terrorists you should be worried about. But I guess that won't
happen until they blow a few holes in Copenhagen.

It can be safely assumed in most cases that anyone using the term "godless commies" is not being
too serious.

Not at all. Atheism was the "religion" of the Soviet Union, although Leninism was the real religion.
In other words, get rid of religion and you will have to substitute something else in its place. Man
will not and cannot live without religion.

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P.S. I hope Rush Limbaugh gets bitten by a Felis concolor.

No, I am not going to look up Felis concolor. For a good part of my life I have been looking up
items for others as a librarian, and now that I am no longer a librarian I am not even going to look
up things for myself. I am happy in my ignorance of what ever the heck a Felis concolor is.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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... I will admit that I do not know too much about Gandhi, surely not as much as Mr. Sherman who
seems to be able to drop a quotation from him on this newsgroup on every chance occasion....

To brighten Mr. Dolan's day:

"Jesus was the most active resister known perhaps to history. His was nonviolence par excellence."
- Mohandas Gandhi

Preachers, prophets, ministers and priests are not known for their violence with the single
exception of Mohamed. Seeing as how the Muslim religion has over taken much of this globes
population, who is to say that violence is not the way to go.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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...The gutter belongs to me!

***CHEAP SHOT***

Crawling up out of the sewer then, eh?

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

It takes one to know one. I have learned how to do combat on this newsgroup mostly from you. You
have been the teacher, I have been the student. Now we shall reap the whirlwind together.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Mr. Dolan, what do you know about Gandhi? He liberated his country from an imperialist
occupation without firing a shot. A mess? Hardly. If you think Jesus Christ would approve of
war mongering in order to spread his beliefs...you have something else coming.

Edward Wong

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The Brits were pretty much determined to leave India in any event. The place was more a burden to
them than an asset. As for J.C. ever being a war monger, you need to look a few centuries later for
that particular personage. It was Mohamed. He and his warriors converted half the civilized world at
the point of a sword. They still think like that to this very day. But apparently it is alright with
liberals if such people acquire nuclear weapons. When liberals are threatened with either Allah or
death, they will choose Allah. Sounds like maybe you would too.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Turn your monitor upside down then.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

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By the way, top posting is considered bad netiquette. Refusing to conform to accepted societal
norms of polite behavior is another sign of
psychological disorder.

Damn Lorenzo! I couldn't agree with you more on all the top posting that is going on here of
late. I think any and all posts should have a bit of what has preceded at the top where it
logically belongs. It need not be the entire message, but only that part you are responding too,
but damn it, it should be at the top and not down at the bottom! This is not rocket science.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Meow! Meow!

Scott

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The Brits were pretty much determined to leave India in any event. The place was more a burden to
them than an asset. As for J.C. ever being a war monger, you need to look a few centuries later
for that particular personage. It was Mohamed. He and his warriors converted half the civilized
world at the point of a sword. They still think like that to this very day. But apparently it is
alright with liberals if such people acquire nuclear weapons. When liberals are threatened with
either Allah or death, they will choose Allah. Sounds like maybe you would too.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

And yet another lesson from the book titled: History of The World According to Ed Dolan, available
at your nearest Spencer's Gifts or other "quality" novelty shops.

Edward Wong Orlando, FL

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Here's a direct answer. Your three previous posts each contained a deliberate blatant lie about
what I have said. You have repeatedly demonstrated that you can not be trusted in anything you
say. You attack me for asking questions and fanatically defend a bicycle that you yourself would
not buy. You are psychologically disturbed. Please seek help from a mental health professional.

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

"The worst-tempered people I've ever met were people who knew they were wrong." Wilson Mizner,
American playwright (1876-1933).

Could you please point out an exact instance of my lying? I've reread each post and believe them
to be truthful. Where am I wrong?

Here are some instances of you lying:

1) You've said reviewers who don't pay full price cannot be trusted. Only full price customers can
provide a truly objective view. When a Bigha customer comes along and provides his insight, you
dismiss it as "vague" and "objective." Now you say (and you've said this before) that people
will do anything to defend their ignorant purchases.

So which is it? Who's to be trusted for reviews? It would seem that in the case of your personal
Jihad against Bigha you will say anything to maintain your delusional stance.

2) You claim the Bigha owner's answer to your question to be unsatisfactory, however you failed -
and have yet to - ask a follow up question. You asked why he liked the bike and bought it even
though it was more expensive than others. He said it was nicer than any other bike he's seen
and he bought it because it makes him happy. That seems like a good enough answer to me.

The real reason you did not ask a follow-up is that you know you've lost the argument. LLL has
never failed to get the last word in, especially in his Bigha Jihad. This time all of his
arguments were defeated, and he simply had no comeback. Be a man and admit it.

3) Why do you continually say I'm defending this bike? I may have said nice things about Bigha in
the past, but I believe my posts on this particular thread have been aimed at pointing out
your lies and not discussing the highs and lows of a Bigha. Yet another distractionary tactic
by LLL.

By the way, forcing us to click the "read the rest of this message" button to see your post is
EXTREMELY poor netiquette. Following some obscure rule about not top-posting to the point of
making your own message difficult to read just goes to show how little of the big picture you
really see.

Finally, do you think a mental health professional could help me or any of us? I think we all know
LLL would never recommend a product or service he himself has not tried. The only question is: did
you pay full price or did you get a specail reviewer's discount?

Every one of your posts is full of lies. Why are you on this vendetta? I criticize a company for
selling a grossly overpriced product and you, who would not buy the product either, become its
greatest defender. Please stop the lies and seek the services of a mental health professional. As of
now, you have so little connection to reality as to be in the same class as Ed Dolan.

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

Main Entry: psy·cho·sis Pronunciation: sI-'kO-s&s Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural
psy·cho·ses /-"sEz/ Etymology: New Latin Date: 1847
: fundamental mental derangement (as schizophrenia) characterized by
defective or lost contact with reality

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