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  1. In article <[email hidden]>, Tosspot

    () said:

    When dealing with the Germans it's very helpful to remember the old
    adage 'Every German kid wants to grow up to be a schoolteacher or a
    Policeman'. I was told this by a German, and after several years of
    observation I a) believe it to be true, and b) It explains *so* much.

    Could be, though when asked what he wanted to be when he grew up, at an
    age when most boys want to be firemen, astronauts or footballers, ex-BIL
    stated the ambition to become a manager. And not of the football
    variety either. This all goes to show something, although I'm sure I
    don't know what.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left.

  2. Jeremy Parker said:

    It's mopeds who are the fastest. In a pilot experiment a few years
    ago Dutch mopedists were permitted to avoid the bike paths, and their
    accident rate dropped by two thirds. As a result they have been
    generally removed from urban bike paths. There are no plans, so far
    as I know, for a similar experiment with bikes.

    Mopeds certainly were, and still are problematic. They are often driven
    by maniacs (imho) with 2 speeds... stop and maximum speed, and just fly
    across junctions without even looking.
    Some years back, mopeds were spilt into 2 categories. The faster ones
    require helmet, and must not be driven on cyclepaths, but the slower
    ones need no helmet and can be ridden on cycle paths. They are
    distinguished by a yellow/orange tag on the from mudguard.
    Needless to say, all the teenage chavs just totally ignore the helmet
    and cyclepaths rules and hack along them and across junctions as if the
    own them.
    The ones that DO follow the rules and ride on the street think that they
    still have the right to squeeze past all the traffic on the right that
    is turning right, when in fact they should really pass on the left. But
    of course their culture and what they've been brought up on is to pass
    vehicles on the right and expect them to give way.
    Certainly out of my 4.5years there, cycling is no problem and you can
    virtually assume cars will give way.

    --
    AndyM.

  3. Tony Raven said:
    Tosspot said:


    When dealing with the Germans it's very helpful to remember the old
    adage 'Every German kid wants to grow up to be a schoolteacher or a
    Policeman'. I was told this by a German, and after several years of
    observation I a) believe it to be true, and b) It explains *so* much.

    We went to the Frankfurt motorshow a few years back and went to the
    Mercedes stand and inquired where we could the bit of road that comes
    with all Mercedes. He didn't see the funny side.

    You forgot another old adage - a German joke is no laughing matter ;-)

    You [censored]! I'm going to have to clean my keyboard now!

  4. "Paul Boyd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    John Hearns said the following on 31/05/2006 09:00:

    Quoted message said:

    And the best feature - cars taking a right hook (left in the UK) have to
    give way to bicycles and pedestrians. They actually sit on the main
    carriageway and wait for the street to clear. IMHO, this one law would
    make the biggest difference to promoting cycling in the UK.

    This already is law in the UK for pedestrians - you have right of way

    No you don't.

    Quoted message said:

    when crossing a side street. The same applies to cyclists on the road - a
    car turning left is supposed to wait until the cyclist has cleared before
    turning.

    A cyclist on the pavement though I guess has no right of way at all

    Neither does anyone else.

    Quoted message said:

    because they shouldn't be there! How about a cyclist on a shared or
    segregated pavement/cyclepath though?


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    IanH

  5. In article <[email hidden]>

    ian henden said:


    "Paul Boyd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    John Hearns said the following on 31/05/2006 09:00:

    Quoted message said:

    And the best feature - cars taking a right hook (left in the UK) have to
    give way to bicycles and pedestrians. They actually sit on the main
    carriageway and wait for the street to clear. IMHO, this one law would
    make the biggest difference to promoting cycling in the UK.

    This already is law in the UK for pedestrians - you have right of way

    No you don't.

    When a car turns into a road it must give way to pedestrians who are
    already crossing that road - maybe that's what he meant.

  6. Rob Morley said:

    ISTR that making aggressive gestures at other road users is an offence
    in Germany, and is taken quite seriously.

    I believe you are right, and was certainly told this by various people
    when I arrived here. My understanding is that it takes 2 people to
    mention this to the Polizei, and you will get a visit.

    --
    AndyM

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