Attacking hills

Zoot Katz said:

28 Jul 2004 17:15:04 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, David Reuteler

Quoted message said:

Zoot Katz said:

The Pro's pro, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email hidden]> advised:
>Forget it Zoot.
>
>The good stuff would just be wasted on you amateur riders.
>
I've got 60 grams of juvenile bonobo pineal gland in the fridge.
Wanna party?

just in case anyone missed the joke (which i quite liked btw):

http://www.blockbonobofoundation.org/

What joke? That stuff costs serious money!

http://taolodge.com/pineal.html

ummm, how much money?
--
david reuteler
[email hidden]

the black rose said:

Oh. Erythropoietin. If I'm not mistaken, they gave that to my mom to
boost her red cell count during chemo. Is that what these cyclists have
been trying to get away with taking? Ew.

Yep. It's an anemia medication which, as you say, stimulates the
body to produce more red blood cells. It is also undetectable in
tests about a week after you use it though your red blood cell
count will remain high for longer than that. That is why it has
been the drug of choice for endurance atheletes for the last few
years. For a while there, it wasn't detectable at all.

It also carries some significant health risks; especially for people
who start with a normal red blood cell count. Notably, it can cause
high blood pressure which can cause stroke or heart attack. It's not
a good idea for a healthy person to take EPO.

the black rose said:

In WV, I had a friend who was severely asthmatic. She had gotten down
to 50% lung capacity. After pulmonary rehab, she could ride me into the
ground; it was SO discouraging. One day we were on a pretty steep, long
hill, best I could do was slowly grind up it, she sprinted to the top,
turned and flew back down, then climbed it again and passed me before I
got to the top. *sigh*

Ouch.

David Reuteler said:

Zoot Katz said:

The Pro's pro, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email hidden]> advised:

Quoted message said:

Forget it Zoot.

The good stuff would just be wasted on you amateur riders.

I've got 60 grams of juvenile bonobo pineal gland in the fridge.
Wanna party?

just in case anyone missed the joke (which i quite liked btw):

http://www.blockbonobofoundation.org/

Ah yes, the bonobo. A nice way of life -- for those who don't need to
worry about deadly sexually-transmitted diseases.

-km

--
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proud to be owned by a yorkie
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:28:27 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, the black rose

Quoted message said:

David Reuteler said:

Zoot Katz said:

The Pro's pro, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email hidden]> advised:

>Forget it Zoot.
>
>The good stuff would just be wasted on you amateur riders.
>

I've got 60 grams of juvenile bonobo pineal gland in the fridge.
Wanna party?

just in case anyone missed the joke (which i quite liked btw):

http://www.blockbonobofoundation.org/

Ah yes, the bonobo. A nice way of life -- for those who don't need to
worry about deadly sexually-transmitted diseases.

Margret Atwood's "Oryx and Crake" was the best semi sci-fi I've read
lately.
--
zk

In article <[email hidden]>,

the black rose said:

So it is with great trepidation that timidly report that I was able to
get up hills at least 50% faster by attacking them, some of them 100%
faster, and increased my average speed for the entire ride by 1.3 mi/hr
(around 16 miles). This is a HUGE improvement for me. These were all
rolling hills, not too big, all preceded by a nice downhill to gather
speed -- what I did was stay in the big gear I'd been in on the downhill
and stand up to dance on the pedals as long as I could take it without
downshifting.

This is exactly what I meant in that old "Re: Intro -- was Re: Zefal
Isotherm water bottle keeps water coldest?" thread, wherein you asked:
"Yeah, but then how do I improve my speed? *puzzled look*",
and I answered: "For me, the trick was to use the big chainring (much)
more often. I mostly ride on rolling terrain, and it's tempting to
become too comfortable with leaving it on the middle ring and just
shifting the rear cogs."

It's all too easy to just lazily leave the front derailer on
the middle ring and just shift the rear cogs. But if you work
that big ring at every opportune moment, you'll notice a marked
increase in speed. In fact, it seems you already did.

Last week I had some pudgy Phred in sweats & knobby tires butt
in front of me at the stop line, as I was waiting for the light
to change. He figured I looked slow (sometimes after work, I am).
I don't mind being passed, but I /hate/ being butted-in on. So
I got a hair up my tuchas to show this guy what's what.

I noticed another thread in here about passing and being passed.
After the stop line we had a rolling dip and then an uphill in
front of us. I moved to pass on the downslope (in my big ring),
and he decided to challenge and race me, with me way over toward
the left. I got past him at the bottom of the dip at 54 km/h
(in a 30 km/h zone) and stormed up the next upslope without
downshifting. Busted his ego on the uphill part. Inflated mine.
When I got to the top of the hump I glanced back to see him taking
to the sidewalk. And then I didn't feel so good -- I was mad at
him for:
a) underestimating me
b) arbitrarily making my overtake more difficult than it
needed to be
c) not having the jam to be contentious where it counted
(uphill)

and I was mad at myself for being puerile about it.

But I sure clobbered him.

Usually, when other riders want to pass me, I give way and
let them, without making a stoopid pointe d'honeur about it.
I just hate being butted-in on.

And on rollies, when you get a good running start on the next
up-slant, momentum is your (and your knees'😉 friend. I guess
you know that, too.

Anyhow, put that big ring to use whenever you can (without killing
yourself), and you'll derive lotsa speed.

cheers,
Tom

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(Tom Keats) said:

I got past him at the bottom of the dip at 54 km/h
(in a 30 km/h zone) and stormed up the next upslope without
downshifting

You have 18mph zones? Where in a parking lot?

-B

In article <[email hidden]>,

Badger_South said:

(Tom Keats) said:

I got past him at the bottom of the dip at 54 km/h
(in a 30 km/h zone) and stormed up the next upslope without
downshifting

You have 18mph zones? Where in a parking lot?

Adjacent to schools, parks/playgrounds and community centres.

cheers,
Tom

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:50:52 -0400, Badger_South <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

(Tom Keats) said:

I got past him at the bottom of the dip at 54 km/h
(in a 30 km/h zone) and stormed up the next upslope without
downshifting

You have 18mph zones? Where in a parking lot?

In MetricLand.

I'm the only one among my American friends who can function in Metric,
but that's because I've spent a lot of my life "abroad" ("home" and
"abroad" are fuzzy concepts for me, as a result).

The easiest thing for me to visualise in the metric system is a liter,
and I base a lot of my mental calculations on that; I know what a
liter looks like in volume, I know that a liter of water weighs about
a kilogram (at 4 Celsius), etc. Distances are a bit different, but as
a photographer, I've started thinking of distances in meters, as
they're the easier-to-read markings on the distance scales on my
lenses. Thus I know that the hyperfocal distance of a 50mm lens at
f/16 on a 35mm format is 5m.

My cyclocomputer is, however, calibrated in miles, in order to agree
with the signage on the road. It's useful for computer calibration to
ride by a local policeman's radar gun--the cops in this neighbourhood
are nice enough to shout out my speed, as measured by them, as I go
by, with a lot of encouragement. (Maybe it helps that my town has a
few bicycle policemen, so the cops are on the whole more pro-bicycle
than the population at large).

Converting to metric doesn't take much, just a shift in attidude,
mentally. However, it makes it a bit hard to visualize a Playmate of
the Month with measurements of 91-61-91. But you get used to it.

-Luigi

www.livejournal.com/users/ouij
Photos, Rants, Raves

Quoted message said:

the black rose [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Ah yes, the bonobo. A nice way of life -- for those who don't need to
worry about deadly sexually-transmitted diseases.

If you've seen photos of many of the regular posters here you know that few of
us have to worry about how numerous partners increases the risk of STDs. <g>

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Hunrobe said:

Quoted message said:

the black rose [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Ah yes, the bonobo. A nice way of life -- for those who don't need to
worry about deadly sexually-transmitted diseases.

If you've seen photos of many of the regular posters here you know that few of
us have to worry about how numerous partners increases the risk of STDs. <g>

pessimist.

Aegroto, dum anima est, spes esse dicitur.
It is said that for a sick man, there is hope as long as there is life.
(Cicero, Ad Atticum)
--
david reuteler
[email hidden]

29 Jul 2004 17:52:14 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, David Reuteler

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you've seen photos of many of the regular posters here you know that few of
us have to worry about how numerous partners increases the risk of STDs. <g>

pessimist.

You can see why I'd have called him a pragmatist.

http://nai.dyndns.org/events/MOMpop20040717/p51.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/dgphoto/projects/20004%202/images/2-1.jpg
--
zk

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Tom Keats) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Badger_South said:

(Tom Keats) said:

I got past him at the bottom of the dip at 54 km/h
(in a 30 km/h zone) and stormed up the next upslope without
downshifting

You have 18mph zones? Where in a parking lot?

Adjacent to schools, parks/playgrounds and community centres.

And also in some more bizarre locations. Columbia street in New
Westminster is a baffling 30 km/h throughout the downtown section. I can
violate that limit on some of the uphill sections. The residential
streets in my part of town are all 30 km/h, as is a stretch of the
Coquitlam section of Gatensbury road, despite the fact that it has a
painted centre lane and the nearest park is blocks away, on the other
side of a major road.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Zoot Katz said:

http://www3.telus.net/dgphoto/projects/20004%202/images/2-1.jpg

http://www.costumesgalore.net/Animals/purpledinosaur99-172.jpg
--
david reuteler
[email hidden]

Zoot Katz said:

29 Jul 2004 17:52:14 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, David Reuteler

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you've seen photos of many of the regular posters here you know that few of
us have to worry about how numerous partners increases the risk of STDs. <g>

pessimist.

You can see why I'd have called him a pragmatist.

http://nai.dyndns.org/events/MOMpop20040717/p51.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/dgphoto/projects/20004%202/images/2-1.jpg

*falls over laughing*

LOVE the t-rex on a bike!

-km

--
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proud to be owned by a yorkie
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

the black rose said:

So it is with great trepidation that timidly report that I was able to
get up hills at least 50% faster by attacking them, some of them 100%
faster, and increased my average speed for the entire ride by 1.3 mi/hr
(around 16 miles). This is a HUGE improvement for me. These were all
rolling hills, not too big, all preceded by a nice downhill to gather
speed -- what I did was stay in the big gear I'd been in on the downhill
and stand up to dance on the pedals as long as I could take it without
downshifting.

This is exactly what I meant in that old "Re: Intro -- was Re: Zefal
Isotherm water bottle keeps water coldest?" thread, wherein you asked:
"Yeah, but then how do I improve my speed? *puzzled look*",
and I answered: "For me, the trick was to use the big chainring (much)
more often. I mostly ride on rolling terrain, and it's tempting to
become too comfortable with leaving it on the middle ring and just
shifting the rear cogs."

It's all too easy to just lazily leave the front derailer on
the middle ring and just shift the rear cogs. But if you work
that big ring at every opportune moment, you'll notice a marked
increase in speed. In fact, it seems you already did.

Yup. I've absorbed a lot of information in a short period of time;
takes a while to gel, but I do learn eventually. *grin*

Quoted message said:

Last week I had some pudgy Phred in sweats & knobby tires butt
in front of me at the stop line, as I was waiting for the light
to change. He figured I looked slow (sometimes after work, I am).
I don't mind being passed, but I /hate/ being butted-in on. So
I got a hair up my tuchas to show this guy what's what.

I noticed another thread in here about passing and being passed.
After the stop line we had a rolling dip and then an uphill in
front of us. I moved to pass on the downslope (in my big ring),
and he decided to challenge and race me, with me way over toward
the left. I got past him at the bottom of the dip at 54 km/h
(in a 30 km/h zone) and stormed up the next upslope without
downshifting. Busted his ego on the uphill part. Inflated mine.
When I got to the top of the hump I glanced back to see him taking
to the sidewalk. And then I didn't feel so good -- I was mad at
him for:
a) underestimating me
b) arbitrarily making my overtake more difficult than it
needed to be
c) not having the jam to be contentious where it counted
(uphill)

and I was mad at myself for being puerile about it.

But I sure clobbered him.

Heh. But you called him pudgy -- so did he really have a sporting chance?

Quoted message said:

Usually, when other riders want to pass me, I give way and
let them, without making a stoopid pointe d'honeur about it.
I just hate being butted-in on.

And on rollies, when you get a good running start on the next
up-slant, momentum is your (and your knees'😉 friend. I guess
you know that, too.

Anyhow, put that big ring to use whenever you can (without killing
yourself), and you'll derive lotsa speed.

Gotcha. :-)

-km, improving ever-so-slowly, but improving nonetheless.

--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

In article <[email hidden]>,
the black rose <[email hidden]> wrote:

snip

Quoted message said:

*falls over laughing*

LOVE the t-rex on a bike!

-km

.... and thats how you pronounce MERCKX!

or you could use ANIMAL.

HAND

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- Tomb of the unknown - American Revolution

Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:32:43 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, the black rose

Quoted message said:

LOVE the t-rex on a bike!

Velo-raptor.

(hand stiched)
--
zk

Quoted message said:

David Reuteler [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

pessimist.

You say pessimist. I say realist. <g>

Regards,
Bob Hunt

(Hunrobe) said:

Quoted message said:

David Reuteler [email hidden] wrote:
pessimist.

Quoted message said:

You say pessimist. I say realist. <g>
Regards,
Bob Hunt

A pessimist is a optimist with experience.
A cynic is a pessimist with a job.
;-)
--Don--
The beatings will continue until morale improves.