Armstrong documentary

Flyer said:

Hi, I'm Flyer and all I can do is repeat five or so posts, tell lies and half-truths, ignore anything that doesn't fit my hate agenda not answer questions directly, run and hide when facts prove I am wrong and refuse to step up to any challenge issued to me. I am a cowardly man who cries about personal attacks but fills my own posts with them. I am simply looking for as much attention as possible.

Wow, I could not have said it better myself!

Game on!

Half truths don't trouble you nearly as much as the whole truths do. Connect the dots.

Half truth or whole in your stinking face absolute doping truth?

Laurent Brouchard OTF in today's race. Testified under oath on October 27, 2000 he actively used used EPO, hGH, Pot Belge and other drugs in his career.

And he was illegaly doped at the 1997 World Road Championship---which he won and tested positive for Lidocaine.

Hien Verbrugan & the UVI covered it up and Brochard wore rainbow stripes on his jersey today. Did you notice?

Christophe Moreau is another confirmed under oath EPO and banned substance addict. He is in 4th place GC.

House, as true doping apologist and supporter of dopers everywhere, you are complete failure as an entity.

Better get in some track time before you get blown into a gutter this summer.

Tous Dope!

House said:

Wow, I could not have said it better myself!

No matter how many times I call you out to take up a challenge, to answer a question directly, to show actual proof, to actually respond directly to what I have written you keep producing reposts filled with a fact or two, a lot of lies, and half-truths, and personal accusations and attacks. You are a joke, nothing more, nothing less.

Who is Manfred Krikke? Was he the Director Sportif of PDM in 1991?

Did he pay for illegal EPO in Belgian to support the PDM Team's 1991 TDF?

Did his new doctor Wim Sanders overdoes his boys?

Did they drop out with high fevers?

Did they claim it was food poisoning?

Did Manfred Krikke, Steven Rooks, Peter Winnen & Maerten Ducrot all admit to the EPO abuses in 1997, six years later.

Were they lying too? Were they jealous?

Is David Millar an honest drug addict?

Are these your pals?

House, you entire life is based upon the confusion of truth. Take a deep breath, and get to the track wherupon you will be but into oxygen debt and can thus better understand anemia!

I cannot help you with your low IQ.

House said:

No matter how many times I call you out to take up a challenge, to answer a question directly, to show actual proof, to actually respond directly to what I have written you keep producing reposts filled with a fact or two, a lot of lies, and half-truths, and personal accusations and attacks. You are a joke, nothing more, nothing less.

Flyer said:

you entire life is based upon the confusion of truth

And yours is apparently based on asking questions for which you imply you know the answer, yet refuse to provide a shred of evidence other than more questions.

You're inquisitive, but not particularly compelling.

Flyer said:

Who is Manfred Krikke? Was he the Director Sportif of PDM in 1991?

Did he pay for illegal EPO in Belgian to support the PDM Team's 1991 TDF?

Did his new doctor Wim Sanders overdoes his boys?

Did they drop out with high fevers?

Did they claim it was food poisoning?

Did Manfred Krikke, Steven Rooks, Peter Winnen & Maerten Ducrot all admit to the EPO abuses in 1997, six years later.

Were they lying too? Were they jealous?

Is David Millar an honest drug addict?

Are these your pals?

House, you entire life is based upon the confusion of truth. Take a deep breath, and get to the track wherupon you will be but into oxygen debt and can thus better understand anemia!

I cannot help you with your low IQ.

Yet another example of everything I've said about you. Keep proving me right coward.

Maybe you will be compelled in death?

Fausto Coppi, age 40
Tom Simpson, age 29
Luison Bobet, age 58
Jacques Anquetil, age 53
Geert Van de Walle, age 26
Luis Ocana, age 48
Detlef Macha, age 25
Bert Oosterbosch, age 32
Philippe Casado, age 30
Joachim Halupczok, age 26
Paul Haghedooren, age 38
Connie Meijer, age 25
Johannes Draaijer, age 27
Sebastien Grouselle, age 21
Thierry Claveyrolat, age 40
Denis Zanetti, age 32
Mario Ceriani, age 16
Fabrice Salanson, age 23
Marco Rusconi, age 24
Jose Maria Jimenez, age 32
Michel Zanoli, age 35
Johan Sermon, age 21
Marco Pantani, age 34
Stive Vermaut, age 28
Tim Pauwels, age 22
Gerrie Knetemann, age 53
Alexandre Zinoviev, age 43
Alession Galletti, age 37

Get a clue?

rejobako said:

And yours is apparently based on asking questions for which you imply you know the answer, yet refuse to provide a shred of evidence other than more questions.

You're inquisitive, but not particularly compelling.

Let's see how well you can ride the razor then, tough guy.

Get your sorry butt to the track and eat some crow!

We'll see who is whimpering like a little baby.

House said:

Yet another example of everything I've said about you. Keep proving me right coward.

Flyer said:

Let's see how well you can ride the razor then, tough guy.

Get your sorry butt to the track and eat some crow!

We'll see who is whimpering like a little baby.

How would me going out to the track to try it for the first time be eating crow??? Have I ever said I am a great track rider? Of course this follows your logic precisely...there is no logic. You open your mouth and the same, tired, cowardly [censored] comes out. Though I must admit you are an expert on whimpering like a little baby, with all the whimpering about personal attacks, going home and crying after your "100% doped" fiasco and the many challenges you ran whimpering away from. Will you ever learn then your responses simply solidfy everything I say about you?

Flyer said:

Thierry Claveyrolat, age 40

FWIW, Thierry Claveyrolat committed suicide.

Here is what I say about you coward caller:

1) you can't ride the track
2) you do not know cycling
3) you do not understand race fitness
4) you do not know the history of cycling
5) you do not understand sport in general
6) you are both ill mannered and ignorant
7) you deny doping or apologize for it

Because you are wholly incompetent in cycling knowledge, your rants are toothless.

Junior riders being forced to doped do not appreciate your idiotic opinions and name calling.

House said:

How would me going out to the track to try it for the first time be eating crow??? Have I ever said I am a great track rider? Of course this follows your logic precisely...there is no logic. You open your mouth and the same, tired, cowardly [censored] comes out. Though I must admit you are an expert on whimpering like a little baby, with all the whimpering about personal attacks, going home and crying after your "100% doped" fiasco and the many challenges you ran whimpering away from. Will you ever learn then your responses simply solidfy everything I say about you?

Yeah, that would make him DEAD.

So too did 1973 TDF winner Luis Ocana (hanged himself from his bike hook in his garage)--you forgot to mention him.

When you consider he, Marco Panatani, Jose Maria Jimenez, Luis Ocana all suffered depression one wonder if steroid absue triggered these issues.

Will Frank Vandenbroucke be next" Or Jobie Dajka or Mark French? They were depressed too.

Then you have the cancer---lots of cancer.

When you peel away the makeup the adorns the faces on OLN TV you will see the truth. The ugly truth of death, cancer, and bi-polar disorders, stroke and heart failures.

Glad you were reading.

Ted B said:

FWIW, Thierry Claveyrolat committed suicide.

Flyer said:

Yeah, that would make him DEAD.

It does, and as you mentioned, it's but one death in your misleading list that was not the direct cause of drugs.

Anyway, carry on to your heart's content. No one's listening anyway.

LOL

It is a matter of reading comprehension that you challenged by.

It is two names, not one, as you suggested, who were deemed a suicide! And all deaths were at young ages. Nothing deceptive about the that. It is what it is. Deal with it.

Who is misleading whom?

Ted B said:

It does, and as you mentioned, it's but one death in your misleading list that was not the direct cause of drugs.

Anyway, carry on to your heart's content. No one's listening anyway.

LOL

Flyer said:

It is a matter of reading comprehension that you challenged by.

Better check your sentence structure before you question my reading comprehension (LOL). I'm going to add your quote to my signature.

Did you discover yet more cycling deaths and illnesses than I posted?

If so, bring it on lest you be accused of misleading our readers by understating the problem.

It's the doping facts that matter here.

Ted B said:

Better check your sentence structure before you question my reading comprehension (LOL). I'm going to add your quote to my signature.

Let's break this down, shall we?

Flyer said:

Here is what I say about you coward caller:

1) you can't ride the track

Well we don't know that since I haven't tried it, but apparently this is what you have latched onto to defend your cowardly self.

Flyer said:

2) you do not know cycling

Because I don't condemn everyone and everything based on one or two facts mixed with lies and hal-truths, bolstered by accusations that are false against anyone who doesn't agree with you?

Flyer said:

3) you do not understand race fitness

And yet you know nothing about me or my racing background...but that never stops you from personal attacks does it!

Flyer said:

4) you do not know the history of cycling

Because I don't agree with you 100%? Or because I couldn't find the Merckx confession that didn't exist on the web because it was from the 70's...no wait 1988? LOL Actually I obviously know more about the history of cycling then you...you only know about one aspect, doping, while I know about all aspects.

Flyer said:

5) you do not understand sport in general

You get that from the fact that I don't condemn everyone and everything about the sport? Coming from Mr. One Dimensional, I have to laugh

Flyer said:

6) you are both ill mannered and ignorant

Look in the mirror before speaking, the evidence against you in this aspect is both obvious and damning

Flyer said:

7) you deny doping or apologize for it

and yet when I made a challenege that would have seen either you or I leave this board for good, you ran away. Show me actual quotes where I deny doping or apologize for it.

Flyer said:

Because you are wholly incompetent in cycling knowledge, your rants are toothless.

Then why do you keep replying with reposts full of a fact or two, lies and half-truths? Why is when I challenge you and always run away? Apparently my toothless rants hurt you way too much.

Flyer said:

Junior riders being forced to doped do not appreciate your idiotic opinions and name calling.

Innocent riders don't appreciate your idiotic opinions and name calling. I am sure that junior rider you supposedly mentored appreciated you sending him off into the 100% doped (according to you...until you got your ass handed to you here) peloton.

Why don't you get some balls and step up to the plate, actually answer my questions and challenges directly? Any response other then doing this proves what a coward you are. Go ahead and prove it.

Flyer said:

Did you discover yet more cycling deaths and illnesses than I posted?

No, I just caught you padding your list, which is deceitful, much like doping on your part to further your point.

Flyer said:

If so, bring it on lest you be accused of misleading our readers by understating the problem.

'Our readers' haven't accused me of anything, but have accused you of much. Sitting here bickering and whining endlessly neither wins anyone to your side nor solves anything, which makes it a waste of my time. So with that, you're (once again) on your own.

Bye now...

How many dead athletes do you require.

Pad my list?---that was my short list.

Do you want more heart failures? (Got em)

Do cancer deaths count?

Do car wrecks count?

Do helmetless crashes count?

Do alcohol fueled deaths count?

Do attempted murders get credit?

I have plenty more deaths, no matter how you sanctimoneously define it.

I left out the verb 'to be' and it revealed that you doping apologists never accept realty. To be or not to be ignorant.

Doping is serious problem in this Tour as all the others. Get it?

You go explain it to the windows Mr. Know it all.

Ted B said:

No, I just caught you padding your list, which is deceitful, much like doping on your part to further your point.

'Our readers' haven't accused me of anything, but have accused you of much. Sitting here bickering and whining endlessly neither wins anyone to your side nor solves anything, which makes it a waste of my time. So with that, you're (once again) on your own.

Bye now...

Consider yourself broken.

Who is a coward? Who is denying the truth of professional sport (all sports, and especially cycling)

You can't change your colors now. You began your doping posts as an ill mannered name calling loser. Ranting away without any facts.

Calling facts lies, jealous lies when you were clearly wrong. You were so cocky, now look at you.

I claimed Eddie Merckx is an admitted doper. You demanded proof--else I was lying.

Another poster showed you a link to a confession. presumably links validate and silence you.

The doping secrets are not posted on a link--secured server yes---but no access to the public.

You have been discredited time and time again.

In the end,you can dish it out but you cannot take it.

Skip Major Taylor Day---you will get hurt at the track just as you have embarrassed yourself re: doping, and your support of dopers and the status quo.

You ought to be ashamed---but would not a good kilo time from a testosterone patch.

Got an issue, get a tissue!

House said:

Let's break this down, shall we?

Well we don't know that since I haven't tried it, but apparently this is what you have latched onto to defend your cowardly self.

Because I don't condemn everyone and everything based on one or two facts mixed with lies and hal-truths, bolstered by accusations that are false against anyone who doesn't agree with you?

And yet you know nothing about me or my racing background...but that never stops you from personal attacks does it!

Because I don't agree with you 100%? Or because I couldn't find the Merckx confession that didn't exist on the web because it was from the 70's...no wait 1988? LOL Actually I obviously know more about the history of cycling then you...you only know about one aspect, doping, while I know about all aspects.

You get that from the fact that I don't condemn everyone and everything about the sport? Coming from Mr. One Dimensional, I have to laugh

Look in the mirror before speaking, the evidence against you in this aspect is both obvious and damning

and yet when I made a challenege that would have seen either you or I leave this board for good, you ran away. Show me actual quotes where I deny doping or apologize for it.

Then why do you keep replying with reposts full of a fact or two, lies and half-truths? Why is when I challenge you and always run away? Apparently my toothless rants hurt you way too much.

Innocent riders don't appreciate your idiotic opinions and name calling. I am sure that junior rider you supposedly mentored appreciated you sending him off into the 100% doped (according to you...until you got your ass handed to you here) peloton.

Why don't you get some balls and step up to the plate, actually answer my questions and challenges directly? Any response other then doing this proves what a coward you are. Go ahead and prove it.