As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
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As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
-- o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o www.schnauzers.ws
Sorry I can not comment on the Spot.
I have been on Surly 1x1, Bianchi and Redline bikes before I bought my Kona Unit last year.
I have a 24lbs Kona Unit ($425 for the frame) and although it is a great frame it does not compare with my 22lbs One-9 Niner ($750 for the frame) . Again I suggest that you not buy a 26 inch wheeled SS bike until to ride a 29er. If you were in So-cal I would let you demo my Niner.
I have not been on my Unit for a while and have it for sale on MTBR.
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As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
-- o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o www.schnauzers.ws
Sorry I can not comment on the Spot.
I have been on Surly 1x1, Bianchi and Redline bikes before I bought my Kona Unit last year.
I have a 24lbs Kona Unit ($425 for the frame) and although it is a great frame it does not compare with my 22lbs One-9 Niner ($750 for the frame) . Again I suggest that you not buy a 26 inch wheeled SS bike until to ride a 29er. If you were in So-cal I would let you demo my Niner.
I have not been on my Unit for a while and have it for sale on MTBR.
Dean, how tall are you. I am short. 5'5" on a good day. I tried out my friend's GF rig which was the smallest size they had available. Adding three inches to the tire increases the height of that bike. The can't drop the seat tube or you'd be riding in between the wheels. While they can fix the standover, it doesn't distract from the fact that when I am sitting on the seat, it's like being on a skyscrapper or better yet a road bike. I don't crash on the road as often as I do on the dirt. Falling from that height is too dangerous for the trails.
I will call Niner bikes and talk to them. Hopefully they will be honest.
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As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
I can't comment first hand as I've never ridden a spot that was my size but quite a few of my friends ride spots and love them. A good friend of mine is the Australian importer so maybe I'm a bit biased.
As for the vertical dropouts I'm curious as to your reasons. I find one of the best things about an SS is the taught chain. No slap, no drag and much lesser chance of it coming off.
My SS has vertical dropouts but I went for an Eno. It works great and as it is a fixie I don't have to worry about adjusting brakes with chain tension.
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As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
I can't comment first hand as I've never ridden a spot that was my size but quite a few of my friends ride spots and love them. A good friend of mine is the Australian importer so maybe I'm a bit biased.
As for the vertical dropouts I'm curious as to your reasons. I find one of the best things about an SS is the taught chain. No slap, no drag and much lesser chance of it coming off.
My SS has vertical dropouts but I went for an Eno. It works great and as it is a fixie I don't have to worry about adjusting brakes with chain tension.
When I talk of no dropouts, I am also thinking about an ecentric bottom bracket (like I have on my crapandfail 1fg) or the drop-out tensioning thing-a-ma-bob (like on the SC Cameleon). The chain on my 1FG isn't loose at all.
I like the verts because I can change a flat a lot quicker. The people I ride with are fast (well, faster than me) and the don't wait around much. So being able to get back on the bike faster doesn't leave me behind.
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bracket (like I have on my crapandfail 1fg) or the drop-out tensioning thing-a-ma-bob (like on the SC Cameleon). The chain on my 1FG isn't loose at all.
Eccentric BBs sound like a good solution, I've never used one though.
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I like the verts because I can change a flat a lot quicker. The people I ride with are fast (well, faster than me) and the don't wait around much. So being able to get back on the bike faster doesn't leave me
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A lot of SSers I ride with use chain tugs, it takes a little longer but no big deal. Flats seem to be a fairly rare occurence with the people I ride with, might just be the terrain. I found I've had to do my Eno bolts up so tight to stop it slipping that a multi tool won't get it off. I've only ever had one flat on it and I had to patch it 'in situ'.
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As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
-- o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o www.schnauzers.ws
Sorry I can not comment on the Spot.
I have been on Surly 1x1, Bianchi and Redline bikes before I bought my Kona Unit last year.
I have a 24lbs Kona Unit ($425 for the frame) and although it is a great frame it does not compare with my 22lbs One-9 Niner ($750 for the frame) . Again I suggest that you not buy a 26 inch wheeled SS bike until to ride a 29er. If you were in So-cal I would let you demo my Niner.
I have not been on my Unit for a while and have it for sale on MTBR.
Dean, how tall are you. I am short. 5'5" on a good day. I tried out my friend's GF rig which was the smallest size they had available. Adding three inches to the tire increases the height of that bike. The can't drop the seat tube or you'd be riding in between the wheels. While they can fix the standover, it doesn't distract from the fact that when I am sitting on the seat, it's like being on a skyscrapper or better yet a road bike. I don't crash on the road as often as I do on the dirt. Falling from that height is too dangerous for the trails.
I will call Niner bikes and talk to them. Hopefully they will be honest.
-- o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o www.schnauzers.ws
I am 5'10", Medium 5-spot and Niner frames and a 18 inch Kona Frame. Riding between the wheels is a very comforting feeling. I feel much safer on my 29 inch bike that my other bikes. I just seems that it would be much harder to endo. I roll drops and go down steep stuff on the seat on the Niner when I have to get my weight behind the seat on my other bikes.
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As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
I can't comment first hand as I've never ridden a spot that was my size but quite a few of my friends ride spots and love them. A good friend of mine is the Australian importer so maybe I'm a bit biased.
As for the vertical dropouts I'm curious as to your reasons. I find one of the best things about an SS is the taught chain. No slap, no drag and much lesser chance of it coming off.
My SS has vertical dropouts but I went for an Eno. It works great and as it is a fixie I don't have to worry about adjusting brakes with chain tension.
When I talk of no dropouts, I am also thinking about an ecentric bottom bracket (like I have on my crapandfail 1fg) or the drop-out tensioning thing-a-ma-bob (like on the SC Cameleon). The chain on my 1FG isn't loose at all.
I like the verts because I can change a flat a lot quicker. The people I ride with are fast (well, faster than me) and the don't wait around much. So being able to get back on the bike faster doesn't leave me behind.
As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
I saw Spot mentioned in this thread and can assure you that if they are still having them fabricated by the Mutant, they'll be very high quality. My brother is riding a Spot SS and has been for a few years with no complaints at all.
As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
Whatever you get, you should bring it for Hartman's riding next summer! Hartman Rocks rocks on the SS!
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Sorry I can not comment on the Spot.
I have been on Surly 1x1, Bianchi and Redline bikes before I bought my
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Unit last year.
I have a 24lbs Kona Unit ($425 for the frame) and although it is a great frame it does not compare with my 22lbs One-9 Niner ($750 for the frame) . Again I suggest that you not buy a 26 inch wheeled SS bike until to ride a 29er. If you were in So-cal I would let you demo my Niner.
Sorry, but Paladin probably doesn't stick to fireroads.
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I like the verts because I can change a flat a lot quicker. The people I ride with are fast (well, faster than me) and the don't wait around much. So being able to get back on the bike faster doesn't leave me
As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
Whatever you get, you should bring it for Hartman's riding next summer! Hartman Rocks rocks on the SS!
Matt
I am probably bringing the existing 1FG to Arizona next month. If I can keep up with Gary on that, then I will bring the new SS to Colorado.
When I talk of no dropouts, I am also thinking about an ecentric bottom bracket (like I have on my crapandfail 1fg) or the drop-out tensioning thing-a-ma-bob (like on the SC Cameleon). The chain on my 1FG isn't loose at all.
EBB's are falling out of favour - they tend to creak a lot. I've been doing a load of research in to this as I look to my next bike. There are a couple of other options open to you if you want to go SS with discs.
1) Sliding drop-outs. On-One have recently ditched the EBB in favour of sliding drop-outs. Voodoo and Kona are other manufacturers. They're a nice solution but, personally, I'm not particularly keen on the aesthetics.
2) Slotted mounts. Probably the nicest solution, but not so good for quick changes. Spot use this solution for their track-end bikes, as do Soma and Surly. It's the solution that I'm going to go for.
If you need photos of frames with slotted mounts, let me know.
When I talk of no dropouts, I am also thinking about an ecentric bottom bracket (like I have on my crapandfail 1fg) or the drop-out tensioning thing-a-ma-bob (like on the SC Cameleon). The chain on my 1FG isn't loose at all.
EBB's are falling out of favour - they tend to creak a lot. I've been doing a load of research in to this as I look to my next bike. There are a couple of other options open to you if you want to go SS with discs.
I routinely take out my EBB on the 1FG and regrease it. Yes, they do squeak if you do not maintain them, often. They can also seize up.
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1) Sliding drop-outs. On-One have recently ditched the EBB in favour of sliding drop-outs. Voodoo and Kona are other manufacturers. They're a nice solution but, personally, I'm not particularly keen on the aesthetics.
The Voodoo is OK, the Kona is bleh!
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2) Slotted mounts. Probably the nicest solution, but not so good for quick changes. Spot use this solution for their track-end bikes, as do Soma and Surly. It's the solution that I'm going to go for.
Send me a pic link. I'm curious.
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If you need photos of frames with slotted mounts, let me know.
<bomba 2) Slotted mounts. Probably the nicest solution, but not so good for quick changes. Spot use this solution for their track-end bikes, as do Soma and Surly. It's the solution that I'm going to go for.
If you need photos of frames with slotted mounts, let me know.>
This is what is on the Bianchi we ride... Works well for me... I agree with GT... If you have buddies who can't wait a few minutes for you... Your riding with the wrong people.
As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
Whatever you get, you should bring it for Hartman's riding next summer! Hartman Rocks rocks on the SS!
Matt
I am probably bringing the existing 1FG to Arizona next month. If I can keep up with Gary on that, then I will bring the new SS to Colorado.
Hear that GeeDub? Get that Redline in gear!
Keep in mind an SS is not the ideal bike on most of the high rides IMO. Most high alpine stuff I do is on the Epic, but the 1x1 rules the high desert.
As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions?
Whatever you get, you should bring it for Hartman's riding next summer! Hartman Rocks rocks on the SS!
Matt
I am probably bringing the existing 1FG to Arizona next month. If I can keep up with Gary on that, then I will bring the new SS to Colorado.
Hear that GeeDub? Get that Redline in gear!
I see a few SSs out on the trails here, but not many. Maybe it is because there are so many long climbs, maybe the local bike shops have drugged us to believing geared bikes are the only way to go, maybe Durango area riders are all low-skilled and in poor condition, perhaps a bit of all three. BUT, I have a work buddy who finished 5th (IIRC) in the VaporTrail 125 on a fully rigid, 29" SS, and he always seemed human to me. And he is trying to talk me into getting one.
> As I mentioned previously, I am looking at a new singlespeed. At > first I was going to go full custom, but after looking at the price > tags that will not be possible. So now I am looking at the stock > frames from some of the smaller builders. I would like to keep the > frame under $1100. It is a SS hardtail for god's sake. My only > other requirement is vertical dropouts (I have my reasons regardless > of it not being true SS devotion). The Spot has the requirements I > want. Anyone ride one? Any other suggestions? > >
Whatever you get, you should bring it for Hartman's riding next summer! Hartman Rocks rocks on the SS!
Matt
I am probably bringing the existing 1FG to Arizona next month. If I can keep up with Gary on that, then I will bring the new SS to Colorado.
Hear that GeeDub? Get that Redline in gear!
Keep in mind an SS is not the ideal bike on most of the high rides IMO. Most high alpine stuff I do is on the Epic, but the 1x1 rules the high desert.
Matt
Why? I think I could do SS on Two Elk in Vail. Is it the technical that's the problem or the climbing? I could handle a 1 or 2 mile "normal" ascent on the SS. Slowly, but I think I could do it.
