A.R.B.R. ain't dead yet??????



$kip wrote:

> "Mark Leuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>Are you happy for all the people in the US working for <$6/hour at
>>>crappy jobs where they are treated as disposable workers?

>>
>>If someone is working a $6 an hour job it's their fault for not trying to
>>improve themselves, you also seem to ignore the fact that personal income
>>has continued to climb not fall
>>
>>
>>>They can not afford recumbent bicycles, and they are likely working at
>>>two or three jobs, so they have no time to ride.

>>
>>They likely do not know what a recumbent bicycle is, most people don't
>>regardless of their personal income
>>
>>
>>>Yes, it is a great country for those born into the lower classes.

>>
>>You continue this rant about people in lower classes getting the screw as
>>if
>>they are totally helpless, instead you will find many who are now
>>considered
>>wealthy were once dirt poor (including many in my own family). They worked
>>for what they have.
>>
>>It must be painful to sit around feeling bitter all the time Tom
>>
>>

>
> Six months ago I had some fencing work done by a Big Box Store who
> subcontracted the job to another smaller company. The installation crew
> leader for the subcontractor was Mexican, in the USA a little over a year.
> In about 15 minutes of arriving at the job site he had uncovered all the Big
> Box Store sales guy's mistakes and sent one of his guys to exchange the
> wrong parts and get the right ones. I was favorably impressed by the way
> this guy ran the job.
>
> Fast forward nine months. This guy stops by to see me again, tells me he
> had started his own fencing business, and would like to have my future
> business. I told him I would be glad to consider him for future work. He
> asked if he could use me as a reference and I said sure. He then asked for
> the names of anyone I knew likely to need fencing work done. I didn't know
> anyone at the time, so he left his new business card and said we would stay
> in touch.
>
> The point I'm trying to make is that Tom doesn't seem to have the foggiest
> notion of this kind of thing or any appreciation of someone working towards
> ownership. Clearly it's outside his mindset.


Why are you dealing with people who business is selling stolen goods?

I could give a more serious reply on how the US system had made the
wrong choice by equating material possessions with quality of life, but
it would be like casting pearls before swine, I am afraid.

--
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"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> skip wrote:
>
>> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>skip wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Mark Leuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's great. If you find a link I'd love to see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe this will let you see the photo:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2tegb
>>>>>>
>>>>>>skip
>>>>>
>>>>>Got a bigger one handy? I can't quite make that out
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, but I don't look at Hillary pictures just before bedtime.
>>>
>>>Has Hillary Rodham Clinton killed anyone by running a stop sign?
>>>
>>>--

>>
>>
>> No I don't think so, I think only the guy in the park, but that wasn't by
>> running a stop sign.

>
> So no Corvair crushing, then?
>
> --


Single gunshot wound to the head wasn't it?

Wasn't Corvair the unsafe at any speed car?
If you really want to talk about an unsafe car how about a wet Olds?

skip
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> $kip wrote:
>
>> "Mark Leuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>Are you happy for all the people in the US working for <$6/hour at
>>>>crappy jobs where they are treated as disposable workers?
>>>
>>>If someone is working a $6 an hour job it's their fault for not trying to
>>>improve themselves, you also seem to ignore the fact that personal income
>>>has continued to climb not fall
>>>
>>>
>>>>They can not afford recumbent bicycles, and they are likely working at
>>>>two or three jobs, so they have no time to ride.
>>>
>>>They likely do not know what a recumbent bicycle is, most people don't
>>>regardless of their personal income
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yes, it is a great country for those born into the lower classes.
>>>
>>>You continue this rant about people in lower classes getting the screw as
>>>if
>>>they are totally helpless, instead you will find many who are now
>>>considered
>>>wealthy were once dirt poor (including many in my own family). They
>>>worked
>>>for what they have.
>>>
>>>It must be painful to sit around feeling bitter all the time Tom
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Six months ago I had some fencing work done by a Big Box Store who
>> subcontracted the job to another smaller company. The installation crew
>> leader for the subcontractor was Mexican, in the USA a little over a
>> year. In about 15 minutes of arriving at the job site he had uncovered
>> all the Big Box Store sales guy's mistakes and sent one of his guys to
>> exchange the wrong parts and get the right ones. I was favorably
>> impressed by the way this guy ran the job.
>>
>> Fast forward nine months. This guy stops by to see me again, tells me he
>> had started his own fencing business, and would like to have my future
>> business. I told him I would be glad to consider him for future work.
>> He asked if he could use me as a reference and I said sure. He then
>> asked for the names of anyone I knew likely to need fencing work done. I
>> didn't know anyone at the time, so he left his new business card and said
>> we would stay in touch.
>>
>> The point I'm trying to make is that Tom doesn't seem to have the
>> foggiest notion of this kind of thing or any appreciation of someone
>> working towards ownership. Clearly it's outside his mindset.

>
> Why are you dealing with people who business is selling stolen goods?
>


No. We were just enjoying a bit of good natured sword play.



> I could give a more serious reply on how the US system had made the wrong
> choice by equating material possessions with quality of life, but it would
> be like casting pearls before swine, I am afraid.
>
> --



If you are finding your four expensive recumbents are having a negative
effect on your quality of life, I would be willing to relieve you of the
burden of their possession.

$kip
 
skip wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>skip wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>skip wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Mark Leuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's great. If you find a link I'd love to see it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I believe this will let you see the photo:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2tegb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>skip
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Got a bigger one handy? I can't quite make that out
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry, but I don't look at Hillary pictures just before bedtime.
>>>>
>>>>Has Hillary Rodham Clinton killed anyone by running a stop sign?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>
>>>
>>>No I don't think so, I think only the guy in the park, but that wasn't by
>>>running a stop sign.

>>
>>So no Corvair crushing, then?
>>
>>--

>
>
> Single gunshot wound to the head wasn't it?....


Nope, broadside by a Chevrolet Sedan near Midland Texas on Nov. 6, 1963.

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$kip wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>$kip wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Mark Leuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you happy for all the people in the US working for <$6/hour at
>>>>>crappy jobs where they are treated as disposable workers?
>>>>
>>>>If someone is working a $6 an hour job it's their fault for not trying to
>>>>improve themselves, you also seem to ignore the fact that personal income
>>>>has continued to climb not fall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>They can not afford recumbent bicycles, and they are likely working at
>>>>>two or three jobs, so they have no time to ride.
>>>>
>>>>They likely do not know what a recumbent bicycle is, most people don't
>>>>regardless of their personal income
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, it is a great country for those born into the lower classes.
>>>>
>>>>You continue this rant about people in lower classes getting the screw as
>>>>if
>>>>they are totally helpless, instead you will find many who are now
>>>>considered
>>>>wealthy were once dirt poor (including many in my own family). They
>>>>worked
>>>>for what they have.
>>>>
>>>>It must be painful to sit around feeling bitter all the time Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Six months ago I had some fencing work done by a Big Box Store who
>>>subcontracted the job to another smaller company. The installation crew
>>>leader for the subcontractor was Mexican, in the USA a little over a
>>>year. In about 15 minutes of arriving at the job site he had uncovered
>>>all the Big Box Store sales guy's mistakes and sent one of his guys to
>>>exchange the wrong parts and get the right ones. I was favorably
>>>impressed by the way this guy ran the job.
>>>
>>>Fast forward nine months. This guy stops by to see me again, tells me he
>>>had started his own fencing business, and would like to have my future
>>>business. I told him I would be glad to consider him for future work.
>>>He asked if he could use me as a reference and I said sure. He then
>>>asked for the names of anyone I knew likely to need fencing work done. I
>>>didn't know anyone at the time, so he left his new business card and said
>>>we would stay in touch.
>>>
>>>The point I'm trying to make is that Tom doesn't seem to have the
>>>foggiest notion of this kind of thing or any appreciation of someone
>>>working towards ownership. Clearly it's outside his mindset.

>>
>>Why are you dealing with people who business is selling stolen goods?
>>

>
>
> No. We were just enjoying a bit of good natured sword play.
>
>
>
>
>>I could give a more serious reply on how the US system had made the wrong
>>choice by equating material possessions with quality of life, but it would
>>be like casting pearls before swine, I am afraid.
>>
>>--

>
>
>
> If you are finding your four expensive recumbents are having a negative
> effect on your quality of life, I would be willing to relieve you of the
> burden of their possession.


I don't own a big house, a motor vehicle less than 10 years old, my TV
is so old that it has 300 ohm terminals (no 75 ohm coaxial input, and
not it is not cable ready), I have no expensive clothes, no DVD player,
no microwave oven, almost no furniture, I last paid for going to a movie
over 5 years ago, I almost never eat at restaurants, I have never taken
a formal vacation trip, and am conserving periods by making this one
long sentence; in fact some of my cow-orkers (sic) spend more eating out
a year than I paid for all my bikes and trike; and I could add to this
list if I thought about it some more.

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"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mark Leuck wrote:
>
> > "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Those countries do not exactly encourage immigration.

> >
> >
> > Actually they do, friend of mine was trying to immigrate to Norway last
> > year, only reason why she couldn't go is a delay over paperwork, she'll

try
> > again this year and will likely make it. They seem to have this need for
> > nurses at the moment
> >
> >
> >>If one of the Scandinavian or Benelux countries offered full citizenship
> >>and benefits to all US citizens who abhor Shrub, I would make all the
> >>right-wing posters here happy and move there.

> >
> >
> > Damn Tom does everyone have to assist you to do anything?

>
> So you think it is better to advance by exploiting people?


Exploitation how?

> Well, people keep on telling me I should leave the country, so they
> should be willing to assist. That would only be fair?


If I recall you brought this up in the first place with Canada, all I'm
saying is if you do move you may not like what you find when you get there
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mark Leuck wrote:
>
> > "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Are you happy for all the people in the US working for <$6/hour at
> >>crappy jobs where they are treated as disposable workers?

> >
> >
> > If someone is working a $6 an hour job it's their fault for not trying

to
> > improve themselves, you also seem to ignore the fact that personal

income
> > has continued to climb not fall....

>
> AVERAGE personal income has barely risen for the last 25 years. However,
> most people are making LESS, while a very FEW at the top are making much
> more. If minimum wage had been indexed to inflation from its
> introduction, it would be almost $10/hour, not $5.25/hour.


I could care less about how much people above me make, since most of them
are owners of businesses you don't seem to want to count how many jobs
they've created.

> >>They can not afford recumbent bicycles, and they are likely working at
> >>two or three jobs, so they have no time to ride.

> >
> >
> > They likely do not know what a recumbent bicycle is, most people don't
> > regardless of their personal income

>
> They know; they just like to use the term "whatthehellisthat" instead.


Doubtful, heck I'd never heard of them until about 3 years ago, many parts
of the US (such as middle of nowhere Indiana) don't get out much :)

> >>Yes, it is a great country for those born into the lower classes.

> >
> >
> > You continue this rant about people in lower classes getting the screw

as if
> > they are totally helpless, instead you will find many who are now

considered
> > wealthy were once dirt poor (including many in my own family). They

worked
> > for what they have.

>
> But have they EARNED (in a moral sense) ALL their great wealth?


If working for it fits your moral sense then yes I imagine most did

> If so,
> they are in an unusual minority. (Hell, even Warren Buffet agrees with
> me here).


I wonder how many jobs Warren Buffet has created over the years, does he
think he's in the "unusual minority"?
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I don't own a big house, a motor vehicle less than 10 years old, my TV
> is so old that it has 300 ohm terminals (no 75 ohm coaxial input, and
> not it is not cable ready), I have no expensive clothes, no DVD player,
> no microwave oven, almost no furniture, I last paid for going to a movie
> over 5 years ago, I almost never eat at restaurants, I have never taken
> a formal vacation trip, and am conserving periods by making this one
> long sentence; in fact some of my cow-orkers (sic) spend more eating out
> a year than I paid for all my bikes and trike; and I could add to this
> list if I thought about it some more.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth


I'm close to that although my truck is 6 years old I do have a DVD player
(bought last year) and a microwave oven and if I recall last time I went to
a movie was 2 years ago and I conserve periods by not using them and I think
you have more recumbents than I do yet you appear to look on the bad side of
things and I tend to look at the good side, strange how that works eh?
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Ever here of Ray Brick/Velogenesis [1]? A Monkey sister is riding one of
> his lowracers.
>
> [1] <http://www.velogenesis.com/lowracer.htm>.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth


Thats a new one to me, wonder why nobody has written much about it
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mark Leuck wrote:
>
> > "skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> >>It would be great if Graham and Mark could meet half way and do some

rides
> >>together. They are both in Texas you know.

> >
> >
> > Sorry skip but that ride will never happen

>
> You could also invite Robert Bass, Jacob Ashbury, Frank Olson and "Group
> Moderator". ;)
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth


From what I've heard Robert hurt his knee last year and talks about riding
again, Jacob nobody has heard from for over 2 years now, Frank is in Canada
somewhere talking about a tail dragging Cessna and rolling a 737 and from
what I've heard Group Moderator rides a different form of 2 wheels if you
know what I mean
 
"G. Morgan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Subject: Re: A.R.B.R. ain't dead yet??????
> Newsgroup: alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
> => Tom Sherman <= wrote:
>
> >You could also invite Robert Bass, Jacob Ashbury, Frank Olson and "Group
> >Moderator". ;)

>
>
> 3 out of four aint bad. We have not heard from Jake in some time, I think

Bass
> ate him.


My guess is you can find Jake either hanging out in some local bar at
Alabama
 
"G. Morgan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Subject: Re: A.R.B.R. ain't dead yet??????
> Newsgroup: alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
> => Mark Leuck <= wrote:
>
> >
> >"skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>
> >> It would be great if Graham and Mark could meet half way and do some

rides
> >> together. They are both in Texas you know.

> >
> >Sorry skip but that ride will never happen

>
>
>
> Awwwwww shucks! And I had my little tight pants and silly shoes on!


Lol like you even know where to find those tight pants and silly shoes G
much less afford to buy them
 
"G. Morgan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Subject: Re: A.R.B.R. ain't dead yet??????
> Newsgroup: alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
> => Mark Leuck <= wrote:
>
> >
> >To be honest the first one two years ago was better, the clothing I was
> >wearing this time tended to obscure my finger. I'll do better next time.

>
> I remember that one... It was really good, kind of "in your face".


I was 50 pounds heavier then, my finger was well defined against the
backdrop of my prominent stomach

> >BTW since you now appear to like hanging out in this forum when are you
> >getting a recumbent? They have a few shops in Austin although I think all
> >they sell are OPB's

>
> I don't know, there are other things on the list before one of those.


G's list

1. Budweiser
2. Coors
3. Miller Genuine Draft
4.
5. Pizza

115. Recumbent bike

> Now that Ed aint coming back, I might as well leave you boring lot of old

men.

Damn and you were so entertaining too
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Freewheeling wrote:
>> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> ...
>>>>But as I said at the time, those weren't the only reasons to change that
>>>>regime. We knew that Saddam was bankrolling terrorists. We now also
>>>>know that there was an ongoing relationship with Al Qaeda, although
>>>>there is little evidence of outright collaboration. (But since it was
>>>>Osama who was seeking collaboration, there was also no good reason to
>>>>assume that a collaboration wouldn't occur sooner or later.)
>>>
>>>Osama bin Laden used to cooperate with the CIA, and was one of Reagan's
>>>"freedom fighters". Should we have bombed the CIA offices and the Reagan
>>>ranch?

>>
>>
>> I don't actually have to point out why this is silly, do I? I mean, I
>> don't mind taking on an argument that has some serious observation behind
>> it, but this is you blowing smoke, not even vaguely interested in an
>> actual discussion or even an argument. I don't think we really need to
>> worry a lot about Bin Laden's Mom either, even though she was a lot
>> closer to him that either Saddam or Reagan. Context does count for
>> something.
>>
>> But the main point, which you inundated with as much smoke as you could
>> blow, is that Saddam was a staunch supporter of terrorist movements. And
>> we never supported Bin Laden or anyone else once they had a reputation
>> for terrorist tactics. (Meaning actual terrorism, and not the sort of
>> hyperbolic accusations the UN regularly throws at Israel.)...

>
> If you can't recognize terrorism (violence directed against civilians for
> a political end) when it occurs, you are so blinded by your belief in the
> innate goodness of "authority" that any further discussion is pointless
> (not to mention annoying to everyone else - but you do not seem to care
> about that).


Well, I suppose that includes the bombing of European and Japanese cities
during WWII, but the better term for that (so that terrorist doesn't become
just another meaningless epithet) is total war. But that term is OK to use
in this instance if you recognize the significance of the term "directed
against." Our rules of engagement aren't directed against "civilians," and
you know it. But war is a pretty blunt instrument, and civilians are
harmed. It's not terrorism, nor is it total war, by *your* definition. The
same is true of Israel when it takes out the leadership of Hamas. But
sawing the heads off of innocent civilians for no better reason that that
those were the people available for kidnap, and the maintenance of
slaughterhouses for that specific purpose... is terrorism.

And it's also total war.

Were we to respond in kind, with the accurate presumption that the only
thing that limits their degree is lack of capability, there'd be nothing
left of the Middle East.

>
> P.S. Where are the weapons of mass destruction?


Well, if we'd given Saddam that lattitude you want, they'd be in some
shipping container at Patapsco, or some similar port... or whatever. And in
terms of the sheer number slaughtered, Saddam himself was a WMD. What are
you prepared to do in the Sudan, by the way? But it's not genocide...
nosiree.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman – Pissing Contest Hell
>
 
Subject: Re: A.R.B.R. ain't dead yet??????
Newsgroup: alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
=> Mark Leuck <= wrote:

>My guess is you can find Jake either hanging out in some local bar at
>Alabama


[in] Alabama... or????? OR WHERE MARK??



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"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> $kip wrote:
>
>> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>>>$kip wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>>P.S. Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Tom Sherman ?Pissing Contest Hell
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Where do you want them to be?
>>>
>>>Preferably in space headed on a collision course with the sun.
>>>
>>>P.S. Honor the signature separator.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Tom Sherman - Earth
>>>

>>
>>
>> I would honor the signature separator if I knew how. Didn't understand
>> your explanation to Freewheeling, but then I can't say I was really
>> paying attention. So sorry. Would you be able to simplify you
>> explanation to any degree?...

>
> $kip,
>
> If your newsreader was functioning according to proper Usenet protocol,
> when you quoted my post, the line with "-- " and any thing below it should
> not appear as quoted text.
>
> Since my signature appears in your quoted text, we must conclude your
> newsreader is not functioning properly in all respects.


I just checked with my up to date copy of Agent Pro, which is about as
sophisticated as news readers get, and the signature appears in the quoted
text of a reply. So, apparently, Agent Pro doesn't honor this convention.
At least not by default.

>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth
>
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Freewheeling wrote:
>
>> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Freewheeling wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, that's damned strange. I don't seem to be able to send a reply to
>>>>any of Tom's messages, but the reply to this worked fine. I get a
>>>>message that "line 3 is too long" replying to Tom, even if I delete
>>>>everything in the message.
>>>>
>>>>Well, I'm not sure this applies to all of his messages, but it applies
>>>>to the one posted at 10:30 and to another one posted more recently.
>>>>Very strange.
>>>
>>>Try setting your newsreader so it recognizes signature separators - it is
>>>messing up the quoting of anyone using a newsreader that is replying to
>>>your posts.

>>
>>
>> I don't follow you. This just started today, and it apparently only
>> applies to the U. of Berlin server. And it's only relevant to replies to
>> your posts.
>>
>> What do you mean by "signature separators?"
>>
>>>--
>>>Tom Sherman ?Earth

>
> Signature separator is "-- ". Your reply posts should not include the "--
> " or anything below it in the quoted area. This is standard Usenet
> convention. As the above quoted material shows, your newsreader is out of
> compliance.


As I said, neither is the most recent version of Forte' Agent. And if Agent
doesn't comply, by default, it's not much of a standard.

>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth
>
 
Subject: Re: A.R.B.R. ain't dead yet??????
Newsgroup: alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
=> Freewheeling <= wrote:

>I just checked with my up to date copy of Agent Pro, which is about as
>sophisticated as news readers get, and the signature appears in the quoted
>text of a reply. So, apparently, Agent Pro doesn't honor this convention.
>At least not by default.



Yes it does. Reply to my message and watch the sig. go away.


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Subject: Re: A.R.B.R. ain't dead yet??????
Newsgroup: alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
=> Freewheeling <= wrote:

>As I said, neither is the most recent version of Forte' Agent. And if Agent
>doesn't comply, by default, it's not much of a standard.



Yes it does!

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
^^^^^^^^^^^^


I thought you said you tried Agent.



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