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A formula for effort : Dist x (speed-10) / 10

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  1. After a stonking good ride (on my scale) yesterday evening I entered the
    speed and distance figures into the trusty spreadsheet with much
    satisfaction. Then it occurred to me to formulate the effort involved,
    not as a calorie counter just as a 'Richter scale' for pushing those
    pedals round.

    The formula I settled on was:
    Distance x (Average speed -10) / 10
    using English units. (eg 20 miles at 15mph or 40miles at 12.5mph =
    score of 10)

    Running back over my records this matches well with the satisfaction
    from a good distance at a good speed. For /me/ 8 and above is worth a
    pat on the back. Yesterday was 13!!!!.

    --
    PETER FOX Not the same since the bra business went bust
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  2. The Richter scale is logarithmic, a change from 8 to 13 would be
    10x10x10x10x10 = 10^5 times more effort :-). Apparently 12.0 would
    fault the earth in half through the centre.

    <\url http://www.seismo.unr.edu/ftp/pub/louie/class/100/magnitude.html>

    I think you are looking for something a little more linear, or perhaps
    a Log base of 2 (double the effort for each point increment).

    So your ride yesterday was 2^5 or 32 times more effort. I'd grade
    satisfaction instead!

    the effort wil be non-linearly related to distance and speed due to
    non-linear air resistance (increases as Velocity^2). see cycling
    science web site.

    regards,
    Daren
    --
    remove outer garment for reply

  3. Peter Fox said:

    After a stonking good ride (on my scale) yesterday evening I entered
    the speed and distance figures into the trusty spreadsheet with much
    satisfaction. Then it occurred to me to formulate the effort
    involved, not as a calorie counter just as a 'Richter scale' for
    pushing those pedals round.

    The formula I settled on was:
    Distance x (Average speed -10) / 10
    using English units. (eg 20 miles at 15mph or 40miles at 12.5mph =
    score of 10)

    Running back over my records this matches well with the satisfaction
    from a good distance at a good speed. For /me/ 8 and above is worth a
    pat on the back. Yesterday was 13!!!!.

    I think there's a formula here:

    http://www.mayq.com/Best_european_trips/Cycling_speed_math.htm

    but my brain hurts when I look at it.

    Tom.

  4. On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:38:12 +0100, "Tom Orr" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Fox said:

    After a stonking good ride (on my scale) yesterday evening I entered
    the speed and distance figures into the trusty spreadsheet with much
    satisfaction. Then it occurred to me to formulate the effort
    involved, not as a calorie counter just as a 'Richter scale' for
    pushing those pedals round.

    The formula I settled on was:
    Distance x (Average speed -10) / 10
    using English units. (eg 20 miles at 15mph or 40miles at 12.5mph =
    score of 10)

    Running back over my records this matches well with the satisfaction
    from a good distance at a good speed. For /me/ 8 and above is worth a
    pat on the back. Yesterday was 13!!!!.

    I think there's a formula here:

    http://www.mayq.com/Best_european_trips/Cycling_speed_math.htm

    An interesting article, but, of course, it isn't quite that simple.

  5. Peter Fox <[email hidden]> of 4th Ridley

    Lancers said:

    After a stonking good ride (on my scale) yesterday evening I entered the
    speed and distance figures into the trusty spreadsheet with much
    satisfaction. Then it occurred to me to formulate the effort involved,
    not as a calorie counter just as a 'Richter scale' for pushing those
    pedals round.

    The formula I settled on was:
    Distance x (Average speed -10) / 10
    using English units. (eg 20 miles at 15mph or 40miles at 12.5mph =
    score of 10)

    Eeek! Average speed -10 makes all my rides have a negative effort.
    --
    All great truths begin as blasphemies. George Bernard Shaw
    Steph Peters delete invalid from [email hidden]
    Tatting, lace & stitching page <http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm>

  6. Steph Peters said:

    Eeek! Average speed -10 makes all my rides have a negative effort.

    I managed an average of 11mph on a ride to Cardiff once. I was so
    proud. I even used the big ring, for the first and only time.

    My usual 8.7 mph on the way back, though.

    --
    Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
    "Football's just a branch of science"

  7. Keith Willoughby of The Viet Gwent said:
    Steph Peters said:

    Eeek! Average speed -10 makes all my rides have a negative effort.

    I managed an average of 11mph on a ride to Cardiff once. I was so
    proud. I even used the big ring, for the first and only time.

    My usual 8.7 mph on the way back, though.

    Stick with it Keith. More cycling has raised my average speed (all rides,
    including shopping and in traffic) from about 8.5 mph at the start of the
    year to about 9.5 now.

    I got to use the big ring this afternoon (slight hill alongside Tatton Park)
    and I was quite proud of that.
    --
    Computer: a device designed to drive human beings insane.
    Steph Peters delete invalid from [email hidden]
    Tatting, lace & stitching page <http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm>

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