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  1. I've got a old (86) 10 speed racer that i picked up for peanuts, which i
    like, bar the friction gear shifters, or rather the rear shifter, thus
    the bike will be moving to new drive chain, i was going to go for 9
    speed but any reason why 10 or 8 could have advantages.

    i was going to go for a compact and try to get a cassette with a fair
    range, so that if i take it back to the gorge in wales i stand a chance
    of getting up the hills and like wise if rocketing the downs have
    enought gears.

    roger
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  2. Roger Merriman said:

    I've got a old (86) 10 speed racer that i picked up for peanuts,
    which i like, bar the friction gear shifters, or rather the rear
    shifter, thus the bike will be moving to new drive chain, i was going
    to go for 9 speed but any reason why 10 or 8 could have advantages.

    8 might be cheaper. 10 would provide smaller jumps between the gears, or a
    wider range with the same jumps. 9 would be the best compromise in terms of
    functionality and cost, including running costs. 10-speed chains are
    expensive.

    First of all, there is the issue of hub width and frame spacing. Road hubs
    that take 8/9/10-speed cassettes are 130mm, where as older bikes were
    designed for 120 to 126mm hubs. You'll be able to spring or bend the stays
    to take a modern hub.
    See http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html

    Quoted message said:

    i was going to go for a compact and try to get a cassette with a fair
    range, so that if i take it back to the gorge in wales i stand a
    chance of getting up the hills and like wise if rocketing the downs
    have enought gears.

    Good idea. A triple shouldn't be out of the question, either.

    ~PB

  3. Pete Biggs said:
    Roger Merriman said:

    I've got a old (86) 10 speed racer that i picked up for peanuts,
    which i like, bar the friction gear shifters, or rather the rear
    shifter, thus the bike will be moving to new drive chain, i was going
    to go for 9 speed but any reason why 10 or 8 could have advantages.

    8 might be cheaper. 10 would provide smaller jumps between the gears, or a
    wider range with the same jumps. 9 would be the best compromise in terms of
    functionality and cost, including running costs. 10-speed chains are
    expensive.


    that was my hunch but wasn't sure. 9 it is then i don't tend to twidle
    the gears that much so a close ratio isn't that much use for me, more
    intrested in a bigger spread ie low enought to crawl up 20% or worse and
    high enought to thunder down the other side.

    Quoted message said:

    First of all, there is the issue of hub width and frame spacing. Road hubs
    that take 8/9/10-speed cassettes are 130mm, where as older bikes were
    designed for 120 to 126mm hubs. You'll be able to spring or bend the stays
    to take a modern hub.
    See http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html

    yes it's a old 126mm steel frame so will have to be sprung etc.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    i was going to go for a compact and try to get a cassette with a fair
    range, so that if i take it back to the gorge in wales i stand a
    chance of getting up the hills and like wise if rocketing the downs
    have enought gears.

    Good idea. A triple shouldn't be out of the question, either.


    true though that really does mean flightdeck rather than downtube
    shifters, and a compact should give me the gears with a low enought
    cassette to possibly even get the evil hill nr my folks place, though it
    has just been resurfaced so that will lessen it a bit.

    Quoted message said:

    ~PB

    cheers

    roger
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    www.rogermerriman.com

  4. Roger Merriman said:
    Quoted message said:

    Good idea. A triple shouldn't be out of the question, either.


    true though that really does mean flightdeck rather than downtube
    shifters, and a compact should give me the gears with a low enought
    cassette to possibly even get the evil hill nr my folks place, though
    it has just been resurfaced so that will lessen it a bit.

    There's no reason why you can't use a triple chainset with downtube levers.
    I think all "indexed" downtube sets have a non-indexed left-hand lever.
    Certainly some do anyway. Any friction lever will have enough travel for a
    triple front mech.

    ~PB

  5. Pete Biggs said:
    Roger Merriman said:
    Quoted message said:

    Good idea. A triple shouldn't be out of the question, either.


    true though that really does mean flightdeck rather than downtube
    shifters, and a compact should give me the gears with a low enought
    cassette to possibly even get the evil hill nr my folks place, though
    it has just been resurfaced so that will lessen it a bit.

    There's no reason why you can't use a triple chainset with downtube levers.
    I think all "indexed" downtube sets have a non-indexed left-hand lever.
    Certainly some do anyway. Any friction lever will have enough travel for a
    triple front mech.

    ~PB

    Ooh really i had assumed not, might well be a option i shall mull over
    it as you where.

    roger
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    www.rogermerriman.com

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