700x25 tires?

I've had nothing but good luck with these:

http://www.somafab.com/tires.html#top

-Nate

andy' trifox13atcovaddotnet said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little more
flat resistant than average.

I'm sorta' intrigued by the new Continental GP4000, though I haven't
tried them myself.

Saw 'em at the local Trek store for $52/ea (ouch).

http://snipurl.com/hvqq

Quoting:

The new puncture resistance

The all new Vectran breaker belt, developed and patented by
Continental, surpasses even the famous puncture resistance of the
former leader in this category, the GP3000. The extremely strong
Vectran fabrics are more flexible and lighter than all other puncture
protection materials. Vectran offers more resistance to cuts than
Aramid, is five times as strong as steel and features less weight than
a nylon double breaker. It also maintains strength in the wet

andy' trifox13atcovaddotnet said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little more
flat resistant than average. I got some IRC triathlon duro's (cheap)and they
ended up being narrower than my 700x23 continental GP3000s?!
Any ideas? gatorskins, 4 seasons, ????
Thanx in advance,

Panaracer T-Serv - quite a bit less expensive than the Conti
Gatorskins, don't have the sidewall deterioration problem, and wear
like iron. They weigh about the same as the Gatorskins and feel like
a high-performance training tire.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

"andy" <trifox13atcovaddotnet> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little
more flat resistant than average. I got some IRC triathlon duro's
(cheap)and they ended up being narrower than my 700x23 continental
GP3000s?!
Any ideas? gatorskins, 4 seasons, ????
Thanx in advance,
Andy

Can't go wrong with Panaracer Paselas. . . I use 28mm tires on my fixed-gear
commuter and have 35mm on my cross bike for road use. . . pretty darn light
for wire bead tires and run pretty true to labeled size. . . oh, and they're
not very 'spensive either. . .

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:29:04 GMT, Neil Brooks <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

andy' trifox13atcovaddotnet said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little more
flat resistant than average.

I'm sorta' intrigued by the new Continental GP4000, though I haven't
tried them myself.

Saw 'em at the local Trek store for $52/ea (ouch).

http://snipurl.com/hvqq

Quoting:

The new puncture resistance

The all new Vectran breaker belt, developed and patented by
Continental, surpasses even the famous puncture resistance of the
former leader in this category, the GP3000. The extremely strong
Vectran fabrics are more flexible and lighter than all other puncture
protection materials. Vectran offers more resistance to cuts than
Aramid, is five times as strong as steel and features less weight than
a nylon double breaker. It also maintains strength in the wet

I was looking at the new GP4000 too. They look really cool. Although
I haven't seen them in person. Maybe a set for Christmas?

For the OP, consider a set of Continental Ultra Gatorskins. I've had
great luck with them. So far 4700 flat free miles, with the front
still looking like new. The rear is squared off, but has good life
left on it.

Life is Good!
Jeff

Quoted message said:

For the OP, consider a set of Continental Ultra Gatorskins. I've had
great luck with them. So far 4700 flat free miles, with the front
still looking like new. The rear is squared off, but has good life
left on it.

Life is Good!
Jeff

I love mine too. It's nice to cringe over the glass, and then be relieved
when there's no ensuing hiss.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

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andy' trifox13atcovaddotnet said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little more
flat resistant than average. I got some IRC triathlon duro's (cheap)and they
ended up being narrower than my 700x23 continental GP3000s?!
Any ideas? gatorskins, 4 seasons, ????
Thanx in advance,
Andy

<http://www.serfas.com/tires/STK-23.html>

Excellent puncture resistance.

--
Michael Press

andy said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little more
flat resistant than average. I got some IRC triathlon duro's (cheap)and they
ended up being narrower than my 700x23 continental GP3000s?!
Any ideas? gators kins, 4 seasons, ????

In order of increasing cost:

Michelin Dynamic
Panaracer Pasela (28mm is about 26 actual)
Avocet Road
Continental Ultra 2000
Michelin Carbon

A

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little
more
flat resistant than average.

I'm sorta' intrigued by the new Continental GP4000, though I haven't
tried them myself.

Saw 'em at the local Trek store for $52/ea (ouch).

http://snipurl.com/hvqq

Quoting:

The new puncture resistance

The all new Vectran breaker belt, developed and patented by
Continental, surpasses even the famous puncture resistance of the
former leader in this category, the GP3000. The extremely strong
Vectran fabrics are more flexible and lighter than all other puncture
protection materials. Vectran offers more resistance to cuts than
Aramid, is five times as strong as steel and features less weight than
a nylon double breaker. It also maintains strength in the wet

I've been on them for a couple hundred miles so far. Can't tell you anything
about wet weather capabilities yet (thankfully!), but they handle very
nicely, just like the Bontrager Race X-Lites and GP-3000s I used before.
Puncture resistance is something I won't be a good resource for, since I
very rarely get flats. Unless, of course, I start getting a lot of flats!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

andy said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little more
flat resistant than average. I got some IRC triathlon duro's (cheap)and they
ended up being narrower than my 700x23 continental GP3000s?!
Any ideas? gators kins, 4 seasons, ????

In order of increasing cost:

Michelin Dynamic
Panaracer Pasela (28mm is about 26 actual)
Avocet Road
Continental Ultra 2000
Michelin Carbon

A

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:35:58 -0700, Mark Hickey <[email hidden]>
scribbled:

Quoted message said:

andy' trifox13atcovaddotnet said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little more
flat resistant than average. I got some IRC triathlon duro's (cheap)and they
ended up being narrower than my 700x23 continental GP3000s?!
Any ideas? gatorskins, 4 seasons, ????
Thanx in advance,

Panaracer T-Serv - quite a bit less expensive than the Conti
Gatorskins, don't have the sidewall deterioration problem, and wear
like iron. They weigh about the same as the Gatorskins and feel like
a high-performance training tire.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

One more vote for the T-Serv tires. They grip, grip some more, and
then keep on gripping. Also, they're tough. Good in wet weather too.

-Slash
--
"Ebert Victorious"
-The Onion

andy said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little
more flat resistant than average. I got some IRC triathlon duro's
(cheap)and they ended up being narrower than my 700x23 continental
GP3000s?!
Any ideas?

You're right about the IRC Triathlons. I use the IRC Road Winners which are
labeled 700x28, but actually measure 25mm. They get good mileage, have good
puncture resistance, and are cheap. I like them.

Art Harris

andy said:

Looking for a 700x25 tire for commuting. Nothing too heavy but a little more
flat resistant than average. I got some IRC triathlon duro's (cheap)and they
ended up being narrower than my 700x23 continental GP3000s?!
Any ideas? gatorskins, 4 seasons, ????
Thanx in advance,
Andy

Wire Gatorskins are a great tire. The Conti GP series, including the
new '4000' and the 4 season are designed as high end, sticky race tires
with the corresponding lower tread life.

Quoted message said:

Wire Gatorskins are a great tire. The Conti GP series, including the
new '4000' and the 4 season are designed as high end, sticky race tires
with the corresponding lower tread life.

Of course, Conti claims otherwise. I'll try to keep track of the mileage I
get and let you know. In general I burn through tires a lot faster than
most, rarely ever seeing much more than 1700 miles out of a rear tire, so it
won't take too long before I get a feel for the 4000. It does, by the way,
have tread wear indicators built into it (little holes in the tread).

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

I had two of these, got three flats in one and one flat in the other
over a couple hundred miles. I got fed up with them and went back to
Armadillos. A little heavier and more expensive but no flats in >3000
miles.

-John

Contis tend to be (a lot) narrower than the label, and my experience
was that the 700x25 Conti 2000s I got cheap from Nashbar were about the
least comfortable tires I had ever used.

Except for a two-week period in which I tried the Contis, I've spent
the last two years on Michelin Dynamics. Good flat resistance, cheap
as all get out, and the 25 is a "true" 25. Running at 100 PSI, they
lug my 190# of me, plus 35+/-# of bike and luggage over everything from
smooth pavement to limestone trails. They feel good in the rain (MUCH
better than most tires).

And, for what it's worth, I got close to 4500 miles out of the first
rear before I started to see threads.

Just curious. When one describes a tire as uncomfortable, compared to
one that is comfortable...how would you describe the difference?

Given two tires, in the same size, on the same wheel, inflated to the
pressures listed on their sidewalls, if one transmits more road noise
than the other and makes going over minor road damage more of a
conscious event, then I would say it is less comfortable. If, at the
same time, it allows me to 'feel' faster (yes, subjective), then I may
put up with the discomfort, if it isn't a lot. In the case of the
contis, not only did they have a harsher road feel, they made me feel
(subjectively) slower.

True. And I know that I *am* very sensitive to sound. I didn't notice
a difference in sound, but it may have been there affecting my
conclusions. OTOH, I rode the same tires, same wheels, etc., over the
same terrain. By "road noise" I am using a loose term to refer to the
feeling transmitted through the saddle and handlebars, and not anything
acoustic.

I was actually surprised at how bad the contis were in this regard;
granted, both they and the Michelin Dynamics are low-end tires, but
Michelin makes few bones about that and Conti seems to talk up how nice
the 2000s are. Maybe my expectations were too high. Dunno.

In any event, perception really is everything here. Comfort is, after
all, in the eye of the beholder. But what is comfortable for me might
very well not be comfortable for someone else!