A Muzi said:Quoted message said:"JP" <[email hidden] <[email hidden]>> wrote
And the target is Rivendell, a small hands on company employing
a dozen people that tries to live up to it's mission statement,
offers a decent product,
stands behind everything it sells, nothing of which is "Made In
China."
bfd said:Nothing made in China? Isn't Taiwan considered part of China? If so,
then Rivendell's Bleriot, which is made in Taiwan, is "Made on
China." Similarly, all of its lugs are "Made in China" too as Long
Shen is a Chinese/Taiwanese company.
Many people distinguish between Free China, Taiwan ROC and The Peoples'
Republic for a variety of reasons. Including me.
I don't even consider Hong Kong and Macau to be a part of China on the
grounds that any place which requires you to pass through customs and
use a passport to enter, speaks a different language, and uses a
different currency is NOT THE SAME COUNTRY no matter what the
governments of both sides say.
Regarding the whole Taiwan issue ...
At the Tour of Qinghai Lake the organizers refuse to use the flag of
Taiwan or the flag for Chinese Taipei (the official Olympic
designation) when hanging flags of all the countries of the teams
participating so because Giant Asia Racing is based out of Taiwan in
amongst more well known countries like the United States, Portugal,
Japan, Germany, England, Denmark, Russia and the like you also get the
country of Giant Bicycles.
For the Tour of Hainan we didn't go down that road though it was a
regular issue that we had to correct people who had called it Taiwan
in the English (always must be referred to as Chinese Taipei) and that
in the Chinese it was always Zhonghua Taibei instead of Zhongguo
Taibei.
This especially stuck out because I was usually the one who made the
mistake in the English. Sometimes, however, some of the PRC Chinese
people also mistakenly referred to it as Taiwan in English. One
person I know made a gaffe and called them Taiwan on the radio in
Chinese.
It's good that we also had Hong Kong participating because it made it
that much easier to cloud the issue when deciding where to put Chinese
Taipei in the various lists. If you squint you can't really tell
whether we stuck it with the national teams or if we stuck it with the
professional teams.
-M