Trek 7200 vs. 7300

You get the 7300 and she gets the 7100.

actually she is saying she wants the 7200, and i kinda want the 7300. i am
wondering if i just shouldn't get us both the 7300 so we can have the same
set of equipment which will make me more familar in case i want to do some
at home adjustment. still wish i could "understand" the equipment
differences though...

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You get the 7300 and she gets the 7100.

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First, look at the 7300fx instead. It's cheaper and better because you're
not wasting your money on a [censored] suspension fork that offers no benefit on
pavement, and on other features like an adjustable stem and a saddle with a
built-in blinkie and handlebars with accessory clips that were invented by
the marketing department.

Second... actually, there is no second. The 7300fx is faster, lighter,
cheaper, and has better parts than the 7300.

RichC

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:03:57 GMT, "Steve" <[email hidden]>

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Can you please help me get a concrete idea of
"what I am getting" that is better and why if I buy a 7300! Thanks!!!

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Price: 7300 $470 / 7200 $390

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Wheels: 7300 Alloy F, Shimano C201 R hub; ACE19 rims / 7200 Alloy F, Shimano
RM40 R hub, Matrix 750 rims

I think the Matrix rims might be a bit heavier and stronger, but the
ACE19 rims should be plenty strong enough for the use you describe.

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Tires: 7300 Bontrager Invert HC, Kevlar belt, 700x35c / 7200 Bontrager
Invert Select, 700x35c

The kevlar belt may reduce flats, but it adds rolling resistance. If
you're not in a hurry (keeping up with anyone?) it shouldn't matter.
Keep in mind tires are easy to change. The dealer may even be willing
to change them out when the bikes are new.

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Handlebars: 7300 Bontrager Bar-Keeper / 7200 55mm rise

The Bar-Keeper lets you add compatible accessories (computer, lights)
with a "click". Not a big deal in my opinion; you may prefer
accessories that aren't compatible anyway.

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Shifters: 7300 SRAM ESP Pro / 7200 SRAM MRX Plus

I don't know of any functional difference here; is the grip texture or
shifting action on either one more pleasant to you?

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Front Derailleur: 7300 Shimano T301 / 7200 Shimano C102
Rear Derailleur: 7300 SRAM X.7 / 7200 Shimano Alivio

The 7300 does have "nicer" derailleurs, but you won't notice it. In my
experience adjustment and shift cable friction have more to do with
good or bad shifting than the difference between these derailleurs.

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Crankset: 7300 Bontrager Sport 48/38/28 / 7200 Shimano C203 48/38/28

No noticeable difference in my opinion.

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THOSE ARE THE ONLY DIFFERENCES, that I am aware of besides paint.

Paint might be the most important difference. Seriously! ;-) You will
enjoy riding more if you like the way your new bike looks.

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How will
these differences be seen or felt over time? Thanks again!

Dave

If the colors were good, I'd get the nicer bikes. I have more fun
riding a nice bike.

dianne_1234 said:

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Tires: 7300 Bontrager Invert HC, Kevlar belt, 700x35c / 7200 Bontrager
Invert Select, 700x35c

The kevlar belt may reduce flats, but it adds rolling resistance. If
you're not in a hurry (keeping up with anyone?) it shouldn't matter.

Rolling resistance difference on a hybrid with 35mm tyres? ..D'oh? OK!

boudreaux said:

dianne_1234 said:

The kevlar belt may reduce flats, but it adds rolling resistance. If
you're not in a hurry (keeping up with anyone?) it shouldn't matter.

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Rolling resistance difference on a hybrid with 35mm tres? ..D'oh? OK!

Sure, rolling resistance on hybrids with 35mm tires.

At lower speeds like on hybrids, aero drag is pretty low. So rolling
resistance becomes a significant factor slowing you down. About equal
with aerodynamics.

From http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/aero/formulas.htm:

"At approximately 12 km/h rolling and air resistance have equivalent
magnitude. At higher velocities air resistance dominates quite
strongly."

So I consider rolling resistance on my bikes, and especially on my
hybrid.

dianne_1234 said:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:23:48 +1000, boudreaux

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dianne_1234 said:

The kevlar belt may reduce flats, but it adds rolling resistance. If
you're not in a hurry (keeping up with anyone?) it shouldn't matter.

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Rolling resistance difference on a hybrid with 35mm tres? ..D'oh? OK!

Sure, rolling resistance on hybrids with 35mm tires.

At lower speeds like on hybrids, aero drag is pretty low. So rolling
resistance becomes a significant factor slowing you down. About equal
with aerodynamics.

From http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/aero/formulas.htm:

"At approximately 12 km/h rolling and air resistance have equivalent
magnitude. At higher velocities air resistance dominates quite
strongly."

So I consider rolling resistance on my bikes, and especially on my
hybrid.

Sure. Now tell me just how much a kevlar belt incerases rolling resistance in 35mm hybrid or any other tyre.

First a few questions. How many miles a year do you honestly think you'll
pedal these bikes? Are we talking less than 500 a year? 1000? How many years
do you expect to have these bikes? Is this strictly path riding or will you
be on city streets as well?

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My wife and I have decided to get our first bicycles in 10 years. I have
previous road bike experience and my wife used to have a mountain bike.
Since we want to remain sitting upright and relaxed and since our bikes

will

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mainly be used in the "burbs" on pavement and perhaps at most on a highly
groomed trail a hybrid seems an obvious choice. The bikes will be used for
enjoyment and light exercise more than any formal training goal.

For price considerations we are limiting our selection to the Trek
7300/7200/7100 series of bikes, their hybrids. It seems everywhere in our
area the 2004 models are sold out and the 2005 are just starting to arrive
so this purchase will be made in the next 2-4 weeks as the appropriate

2005

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model arrives. Right now mens frames are only starting to trickle in but

our

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LBS says for sure within the next 3-4 weeks they should have any option
available. Based on the 7100 series there have been no changes between
2004/05 accept for paint. Details of the 7200/7300 2004/05 differences are
as of yet unavailable.

This is where I get lost: I am trying to decide between the 7100/200/300
series. I feel fine about the price of the 7200 so because I do believe
paying more you get better components and features I will rule out the

7100.

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However the price of getting two 7300's is getting a bit steep for the use
of these bikes, but I am willing to do so if it will increase my enjoyment
of the bicycle. I have asked folks at the LBS want the differences are and
they say "a nicer handle bar, better derailleur etc." None of which means
anything to me from a practicle standpoint. How is it nicer? Will I

notice?

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What makes one derailleur better than another? Weight? Reliablity?

Assuming the 2004 stats remain the same here are the areas of difference

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the 7300 vs. 7200 series. Can you please help me get a concrete idea of
"what I am getting" that is better and why if I buy a 7300! Thanks!!!

Price: 7300 $470 / 7200 $390

Wheels: 7300 Alloy F, Shimano C201 R hub; ACE19 rims / 7200 Alloy F,

Shimano

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RM40 R hub, Matrix 750 rims

Tires: 7300 Bontrager Invert HC, Kevlar belt, 700x35c / 7200 Bontrager
Invert Select, 700x35c

Handlebars: 7300 Bontrager Bar-Keeper / 7200 55mm rise

Shifters: 7300 SRAM ESP Pro / 7200 SRAM MRX Plus

Front Derailleur: 7300 Shimano T301 / 7200 Shimano C102

Rear Derailleur: 7300 SRAM X.7 / 7200 Shimano Alivio

Crankset: 7300 Bontrager Sport 48/38/28 / 7200 Shimano C203 48/38/28

THOSE ARE THE ONLY DIFFERENCES, that I am aware of besides paint. How will
these differences be seen or felt over time? Thanks again!

Dave