Ullrich

Dermo said:

What a media invention this lad is.

He cant even give a straight answer. So his failure in the TDF is down to the weather or sickness or weight.

The same excuses year after year after year.

I dont understand why the media build up this man. ITV paradoxically extolling him while giving Armstrong grudging praise as Armstong destroys him day after day after day.

The simple fact is Ullrich is not even approaching the same class as Armstrong and never was and never will be.

You are only showing your ignorance.

sopas said:

You are only showing your ignorance.

Great reply that.

Dermo said:

What a media invention this lad is.

He cant even give a straight answer. So his failure in the TDF is down to the weather or sickness or weight.

The same excuses year after year after year.

I dont understand why the media build up this man. ITV paradoxically extolling him while giving Armstrong grudging praise as Armstong destroys him day after day after day.

The simple fact is Ullrich is not even approaching the same class as Armstrong and never was and never will be.

Are you serious? JU is amazing, just lacks in training discipline. he is sometimes referred to as one of the greatest cyclists of all time, he just lacks that mental discipline

TrekDedicated said:

Are you serious? JU is amazing, just lacks in training discipline. he is sometimes referred to as one of the greatest cyclists of all time, he just lacks that mental discipline

Sorry I spat out my tea there - "one of the greatest cyclists of all time". I will be laughing all day.

Why oh why would he be "one of the greatest cyclists of all time".

ROFL

TrekDedicated said:

Are you serious? JU is amazing, just lacks in training discipline. he is sometimes referred to as one of the greatest cyclists of all time, he just lacks that mental discipline

Are YOU serious? how the &%$&^ can you say someone is amazing and in the same breathe say he lacks in training? You must be that guy that can get lapped by a 10 year old if its ok to slack in training and still be Amazing, get another sport, cycling and pain go hand in hand!

Well at least JU isn't as dumb as all the other gc contenders in this years tour. He is the only one that beleived Armstrong sandbagged the Ventoux TT. The other's thought they were on good enough form and sat arond and ate pizza and did not pedal there bike. 🙂

Also JU is the only one to have at least tried an attack. Everybody else watched while they were on there sofa.

ds0709 said:

Are YOU serious? how the &%$&^ can you say someone is amazing and in the same breathe say he lacks in training? You must be that guy that can get lapped by a 10 year old if its ok to slack in training and still be Amazing, get another sport, cycling and pain go hand in hand!

You obviously don't read/ listen to anything about cycling. yes he does train, but he doesn't train at well as he should. He has the capabilities, but lacks discipline. Everyone speaks about it and knows about it, you must live under a rock.

Especially since LA ALWAYS talks about him.

Don't tell me about pain, I work extremely hard on my bike. I'm in good enough shape that I can agree with LA and say, 'no chain' occasionally when I ride. I'm sorry if you're so out of shape that you are always in pain... Bummer...

You can be a very good athlete naturally, but just not train. Thus, you may be beaten by a lesser gifted athlete who trains harder and more often. Not to say that Lance is lesser gifted.

Dermo said:

What a media invention this lad is.

He cant even give a straight answer. So his failure in the TDF is down to the weather or sickness or weight.

The same excuses year after year after year.

I dont understand why the media build up this man. ITV paradoxically extolling him while giving Armstrong grudging praise as Armstong destroys him day after day after day.

The simple fact is Ullrich is not even approaching the same class as Armstrong and never was and never will be.

How do you explain the fact that Ullrich would be a 4 time TdF winner if it weren't for Armstrong? He won it once and finished 2nd 5 times, 3 times to Armstrong. There aren't very many 4 time Tour winners.

Hey Dermo and DS0709, where are your responses to this? Did you actually read something and found out you speak nonsense?

Dermo said:

What a media invention this lad is.

He cant even give a straight answer. So his failure in the TDF is down to the weather or sickness or weight.

The same excuses year after year after year.

I dont understand why the media build up this man. ITV paradoxically extolling him while giving Armstrong grudging praise as Armstong destroys him day after day after day.

The simple fact is Ullrich is not even approaching the same class as Armstrong and never was and never will be.

Hey Dermo or should that be Dermot ?
I suspect using the abbreviation, you might well be Irish.
If you are - can you do me a favour ?
Stop talking through your [censored], please.

Limerickman (formerly of Dublin - where the name Dermot is abbreviated to Dermo).

TrekDedicated said:

Hey Dermo and DS0709, where are your responses to this? Did you actually read something and found out you speak nonsense?

My response, if the queen had balls she'd be king. He didn't win, German fans who spat at the riders suck, this isn't soccer, and history was never written by the guy that comes in second. Thats a great stat, I came in 2nd 5 times to the same guy, after 2 or 3 times, ya think you would get your act together and train your tail off or no, just come into the tour fat and out of shape again. Yep, your right, this guy is amazing! Amazingly lazy, this is supposed to be his job! No wonder he gets his but kicked by this kid from Tx. every year. Maybe Lance won't ride the tour next year, then you might have a chance! Good luck with that!

limerickman said:

If you are - can you do me a favour ?

Limerickman (formerly of Dublin - where the name Dermot is abbreviated to Dermo).

Lim, I doubt that he is talking..It's obvious that he has trained his sphincter muscles to operate a keyboard....Don't worry, he isn't even in your league.... 😄

Dermo said:

What a media invention this lad is.
The simple fact is Ullrich is not even approaching the same class as Armstrong and never was and never will be.

Look, in case its not obvious by now...You are living in a fantasy world. First of all He has won 1 TDF and finished 2nd to none only than LA every year so, get real...Wake up DERMO, DERMOT, DUMMY or whatever you respond to :p

Dermo said:

What a media invention this lad is.

He cant even give a straight answer. So his failure in the TDF is down to the weather or sickness or weight.

The same excuses year after year after year.

I dont understand why the media build up this man. ITV paradoxically extolling him while giving Armstrong grudging praise as Armstong destroys him day after day after day.

The simple fact is Ullrich is not even approaching the same class as Armstrong and never was and never will be.

Unfortunately I think Jan Ullrich will be remebered as being very good rather than great. Personally I think that is fair enough. There are other riders with great records who had the misfortune to run in to great Tour de France champions. Joop Zoetemelk as I mentioned in another thread ran 2nd six times and had one victory. He won scores of other races, World Championships, classic single day races yet no-one suggests that he had more class than the men who beat him. That's just the way sport is.

Dermo said:

What a media invention this lad is.

He cant even give a straight answer. So his failure in the TDF is down to the weather or sickness or weight.

The same excuses year after year after year.

I dont understand why the media build up this man. ITV paradoxically extolling him while giving Armstrong grudging praise as Armstong destroys him day after day after day.

The simple fact is Ullrich is not even approaching the same class as Armstrong and never was and never will be.

i agree with 100%.... he def. does not have the metal game to do it..

Alot of you loons are missing the point.

Ullrich gets praise over and above Armstrong despite the facts. Every year him or his team have an excuse.

There have been a vast number of more gifted, technical cyclists than Ullrich. Ullrich just has power. Compared to Armstrong he has none of his intelligence, technical ability on a bike, ability to sprint, metaphorically change gear etc etc and people like ITV go on about him ad nauseum.

Limerickman - you havent a notion about Dublin you bogger.

And the personal abuse - from a bunch of fanatics for a fat german waster - is music to my ears so pray continue.

Dermo said:

Alot of you loons are missing the point.

Ullrich gets praise over and above Armstrong despite the facts. Every year him or his team have an excuse.

There have been a vast number of more gifted, technical cyclists than Ullrich. Ullrich just has power. Compared to Armstrong he has none of his intelligence, technical ability on a bike, ability to sprint, metaphorically change gear etc etc and people like ITV go on about him ad nauseum.

Limerickman - you havent a notion about Dublin you bogger.

And the personal abuse - from a bunch of fanatics for a fat german waster - is music to my ears so pray continue.

Can I get an Amen!!!

Dermo said:

Limerickman - you havent a notion about Dublin you bogger.

Limerickman said:

Hey Dermo or should that be Dermot ?
I suspect using the abbreviation, you might well be Irish.
If you are - can you do me a favour ?
Stop talking through your [censored], please.

Limerickman (formerly of Dublin - where the name Dermot is abbreviated to Dermo).

War of the Paddys!