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  1. gerblefranklin said:

    *The onzas in the us are the same as the ones on unicycle.uk.com
    (comes with KH rip-off saddle). Unicycle.com just hasn't updated the
    pic. Don't get the onza, the manufacturing standards aren't up to par.
    Wait until September, I hear there's a kick-a** new KH hub and crank
    set coming out that'll be super light, but as strong as, if not
    stronger, than the profiles. I don't have any more info, but I hear
    it's good. *

    I don't know how much you all know, but since you know some I can fill
    you in a little bit more I guess. The hub is actually a joint
    development with Kris, Mike (Onza) and myself. It has moved in several
    ways since my visit to Taiwan last month. There are 2 designs at the
    moment, one being protyped at the moment, which has a weight similar to
    that of a Suzue and Bicycle Euro's but the same strength of the best
    splined unit. It should not suffer from spline deteriation due a pinch
    bolt system and the flanges/body are also splined so should be more
    durable... not perfect and needs testing fully! Kris and myself should
    have samples to test within a month. The other option should be lighter
    again! with similar cranks but an ISIS! But since this is still on my
    drawing board it will be about a month behind for testing and costing
    out. Either way we hope to see these on unicycles for September,
    although to be realistic, it may be October or even November. Things do
    take a long time to get done, unfortunately. 🙁

    Roger
    ps not sure where you get the idea that Onza's are made to a lower
    standard, I found out that it was actually the same welder who built
    both frames! The welds just look different because the Onza is lighter
    weight CrMO tubing :-)

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  2. gerblefranklin said:

    *

    I was referring to the spline quality. They don't seem as well made as
    KHs and profiles (many reports of play in the hub). I don't care about
    the frame, almost anything will do.

    As for the hub, I didn't know it was a joint effort, but I did know
    the rest. I decided I was not in the place to go transmitting design
    details. If a designer (you, Mike, or Kris) wanted to fill in the
    rest, you could, but if not, the info would still go unsaid.

    I'm wondering, is ISIS a splined -and- tapered spindle? *

    The wear in the splines is not a quality issue but a design one - it is
    a straight spline with nothing to take up wear when wear occurs other
    than the central bolt, so requiring more maintainance - we are designing
    this problem out. We are going to use the company that manufactured the
    Onza hub, not the one that manufactured the KH because they are the
    better manufacturer. The prototype hubs use the splines from the Onza
    hub.
    ISIS uses a combination of a straight and tapered spline, it is
    technologically the best option for an crank interface, but.... it is
    also the least suitable for unicycles due to the massive shaft size. We
    think we have a solution, that will give long lasting bearings and the
    ability to fit in to a unicycle frame. (I thought people would like that
    last one). :-)

    Roger

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  3. If this new hub is a joint operation of nearly all the big affordable
    names (Unicycle.com, Kris Holm unis and Onza) does this mean that there
    won't be seperate unis for each brand when the hubs come out? As surely
    the big factor when buying a uni is the hub and if they all have the
    same hub and cranks...? Will a new breed of super unicycle take over?

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  4. one wheeled stallion said:

    *Will a new breed of super unicycle take over? *

    *Terminator sound-effect* DUM-DUM DUM-DUM-DUM...

    Phil

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  5. Lol! By take over I mean the unicycle market- not the universe as we
    know it! But seriously, the only major difference after the hub and
    cranks is the frame then rim as they have the same saddle, so will Onza
    and KH still produce individual machines???

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  6. Yes, do not worry. There will be enough differences between them.

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