I was misled

And again:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=41868

Jobst Brandt
[email hidden]

Darn! All along I thought that Iraquis commanded by Sadam Hussein were
responsible for 9/11 and that he was the leader of Al Qaeida.

I also thought that Osama Bin Laden was our friend. After all John
Rambo, in Rambo III, joins his army to fight against the Russians in
Afganistan. Also, Osama offered his army of holly warriors to fight
against the Iraqis to expell them from Kuwait.

Wasn't Sadam a good friend of us too? Didn't the Reagan administration
gave him tons of weapons so that he could fight tht Iranians, our
enemies? Wait.... I am more confused....didn't the Reagan
administration also gave weapons to the Iranians in exchange for
hostages.

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

Thanks,

Andres

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http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227

Jobst Brandt
[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227

Y'know, I'd rather have a helmet flamewar than US politics. At least it's
got something to do with bicycles!
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill the tomato!

On 25 Jun 2004 06:22:20 -0700, [email hidden] (andres muro) from

urlhttp://groups.google.com/url said:

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

Them 9/11 hijackers were not sponsored by an state. They were trained in a
variety of locations, including the U.S.

--
Kevan Smith
[email hidden]

andres muro said:

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

Yes, the US Government have pandered to many nations who they think will
help the USA cause, without thinking it fully through, then they get
kicked up the ass when they realise the mistake they've made.They are
currently feteing the Saudis as all thats good about the Gulf, when in
effect the Saudi rulers are pretty much despots who cannot give a stuff
about Human Rights,and just want to stay in power, much like the current
US government, who think they can treat POW's with impunity,and hold them,
without charge or access to independent lawyers, for as long as they feel
fit.
No, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, George Bush wanted a war, he was
getting bored with Afghanistan, so needed something else to occupy him,
and to keep all his friends, in business and arms supply, happy.
Afghanistan is still a war zone in parts of the Country, and the poppy
yield is going to be high this year, so next year when the cheap heroin is
reaching the US cities, you can thank G.W.B. for his 'victory' in allowing
the free market to flourish in the 'liberated' Afghanistan.
Alan.

"andres muro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Darn! All along I thought that Iraquis commanded by Sadam Hussein were
responsible for 9/11 and that he was the leader of Al Qaeida.

I also thought that Osama Bin Laden was our friend. After all John
Rambo, in Rambo III, joins his army to fight against the Russians in
Afganistan. Also, Osama offered his army of holly warriors to fight
against the Iraqis to expell them from Kuwait.

Wasn't Sadam a good friend of us too? Didn't the Reagan administration
gave him tons of weapons so that he could fight tht Iranians, our
enemies? Wait.... I am more confused....didn't the Reagan
administration also gave weapons to the Iranians in exchange for
hostages.

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

Thanks,

Andres

Um, business as usual? I mean we are still up to all this [censored] and no one
seems to care, as long as us Americans can drive our H2"s and Expeditions.
At least Cheney is making a pile of money on all this war and lord know the
Bush family is getting a little on the side. lol

Well, time to start up my Ford F350 four door extended cab with the
powerstroke with a cover over the bed because it never has anything in it
but my fat ass and drive it down to the grocery to pick up all prepared
foods because I am to lazy and fat to cook.

Yee-haw IS now foreign policy!
Curt

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Quoted message said:

And again:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=41868

Jobst Brandt
[email hidden]

About the political correctness of the Stanford Indian curriculum, not a
chance!

(andres muro) said:

Darn! All along I thought that Iraquis commanded by Sadam Hussein
were responsible for 9/11 and that he was the leader of Al Qaeida.

Huh? They weren't? He isn't?

Quoted message said:

I also thought that Osama Bin Laden was our friend. After all John
Rambo, in Rambo III, joins his army to fight against the Russians in
Afganistan. Also, Osama offered his army of holly warriors to fight

^^^^^

Quoted message said:

against the Iraqis to expell them from Kuwait.

Militant Santa's elves converted to Islam?

Quoted message said:

Wasn't Sadam a good friend of us too? Didn't the Reagan
administration gave him tons of weapons so that he could fight tht
Iranians, our enemies? Wait.... I am more confused....didn't the
Reagan administration also gave weapons to the Iranians in exchange
for hostages.

Yes.

Quoted message said:

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the
people that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't
the Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that
caused 9/11?

Yes.

Quoted message said:

Can anyone clarify for me?

No.

The Reagan, Bush I and Bush II administrations were and are insane
(and are the same groups of people, for the most part). None of them
can do simple math, none of them knows how to operate a budget, none
of them think the Constitution is worth defending if it gets in their
way, and all of them know that if they lie long enough the majority of
Americans will decide they are telling the truth. The neocons live by
Wizard's First Rule.

One can only hope for an ouster in November.

On 25 Jun 2004 16:00:15 +0100 (BST), David Damerell

from Linux Unlimited said:

Quoted message said:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227

Y'know, I'd rather have a helmet flamewar than US politics. At least it's
got something to do with bicycles!

If the U.S. cycled more instead of driving, the Middle East wouldn't be so
important to us.

--
Kevan Smith
[email hidden]

Where's Mark Hickey on this one?

delete the W in both the email address and White House

I've seen this type of behavior before (Walter Cronkite comes to mind)... an
aging man, respected in his field, uses his name as a soapbox on which to
subject those who are unfortunate enough to be listening to his highbrow,
gray-haired wisdom. Its too bad, really.

Well, at least any tinge of guilt I felt for photocopying "The Bicycle
Wheel" from my local library is now gone... (and I may stop greasing my
tapers).

Kyle

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Quoted message said:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227

Jobst Brandt
[email hidden]

"andres muro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Darn! All along I thought that Iraquis commanded by Sadam Hussein were
responsible for 9/11 and that he was the leader of Al Qaeida.

I also thought that Osama Bin Laden was our friend. After all John
Rambo, in Rambo III, joins his army to fight against the Russians in
Afganistan. Also, Osama offered his army of holly warriors to fight
against the Iraqis to expell them from Kuwait.

Wasn't Sadam a good friend of us too? Didn't the Reagan administration
gave him tons of weapons so that he could fight tht Iranians, our
enemies? Wait.... I am more confused....didn't the Reagan
administration also gave weapons to the Iranians in exchange for
hostages.

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

No.

Take a deep breath, go to a video store, and rent "Wag the Dog".
Keep saying "it's only a movie, it's only a movie" as if you could really
mean it.

curt said:

Yee-haw IS now foreign policy!

Indeed

--
Andy Morris

AndyAtJinkasDotFreeserve.Co.UK

Love this:
Put an end to Outlook Express's messy quotes
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

JBrandt in theater, "fire!"

Quoted message said:

andres muro said:

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?
Can anyone clarify for me?

A.Lee said:

Yes, the US Government have pandered to many nations who they think will
help the USA cause, without thinking it fully through, then they get
kicked up the ass when they realise the mistake they've made.They are
currently feteing the Saudis as all thats good about the Gulf, when in
effect the Saudi rulers are pretty much despots

-blah blah blah-

Now that all our respective positions are hardened and the
air is poisoned, can we return to bicycles?

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

"Kyle.B.H" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:j61Dc.94357$2i5.90766@attbi_s52:

Quoted message said:

Well, at least any tinge of guilt I felt for photocopying "The Bicycle
Wheel" from my local library is now gone... (and I may stop greasing
my tapers).

Kyle

My tapirs are ALWAYS well greased before I hitch them to my coach and six.

Mike

"Kyle.B.H" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:j61Dc.94357$2i5.90766@attbi_s52...

Quoted message said:

I've seen this type of behavior before (Walter Cronkite comes to mind)... an
aging man, respected in his field, uses his name as a soapbox on which to
subject those who are unfortunate enough to be listening to his highbrow,
gray-haired wisdom. Its too bad, really.

I don't know the significance of "aging" (aren't we all?) or "gray-haired",
except as a gratuitous pot shot, but, if your big fear is that Jobst will
abuse his automatic credibility with this audience, you must be new here.

garmonboezia cthvlhv@r'lyeh.arg said:

"Kyle.B.H" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:j61Dc.94357$2i5.90766@attbi_s52:

Quoted message said:

Well, at least any tinge of guilt I felt for photocopying "The
Bicycle Wheel" from my local library is now gone... (and I may stop
greasing my tapers).

Kyle

My tapirs are ALWAYS well greased before I hitch them to my coach
and six.

Greasing tapirs is illegal in 12 nations under OAS treaties and in 19
states. You don't want to be admitting such behavior on Usenet!

Tim McNamara <[email hidden]> wrote in news:m2r7s26qej.fsf@Stella-
Blue.local:

Quoted message said:

garmonboezia cthvlhv@r'lyeh.arg said:

"Kyle.B.H" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:j61Dc.94357$2i5.90766@attbi_s52:

Quoted message said:

Well, at least any tinge of guilt I felt for photocopying "The
Bicycle Wheel" from my local library is now gone... (and I may stop
greasing my tapers).

Kyle

My tapirs are ALWAYS well greased before I hitch them to my coach
and six.

Greasing tapirs is illegal in 12 nations under OAS treaties and in 19
states. You don't want to be admitting such behavior on Usenet!

That's the least of my worries.

"If you see a tapir lounging on a hot day, you might think it is
slothful. However, in motion, tapirs are fast and agile, and they also
swim well. Tapirs in captivity sometimes have violent tantrums: a Malay
tapir severed the arm of a keeper at the Oklahoma City Zoo in 1998."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've seen this type of behavior before (Walter Cronkite comes to

mind)... an

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

aging man, respected in his field, uses his name as a soapbox on which

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

subject those who are unfortunate enough to be listening to his

highbrow,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

gray-haired wisdom. Its too bad, really.

I don't know the significance of "aging" (aren't we all?) or

"gray-haired",

Quoted message said:

except as a gratuitous pot shot, but, if your big fear is that Jobst will
abuse his automatic credibility with this audience, you must be new here.

It's the Republican way these days to try to run down the person saying the
contentious statement by denigrating them in some way and not responding to
what he/she said. Just last week, Talk show host Mark Davis, when
responding to Gen. Anthony Zinni's statements about the way in Iraq,
dismissed them entirely by saying "Why should we listen to a retiree?"

Pat in TX