PeeON.

Didn't Mattis have about 280-320W last year according to some SRM graph
that got posted? Now he's at what - 377-399W and Horner is 450-480???
Crikey.

Rik Van Diesel said:

First you have to read the greatest non-fictional writer of our
century, Mattis, then once you cannot take it any longer. …Read the
Saunders' Aritcle.

Everyone has a story from Redlands.

Mattis http://www.bike.com/template.asp?date=4%2F6%2F2004&page=2&lsectionnumber=3&lsectionname=Peloton+Stories&lsectiondirectory=franke

Saunders
http://www.eriksaunders.com/legends.MattisPee.htm

Rik Van Diesel wrote in message

Quoted message said:

First you have to read the greatest non-fictional writer of our century, Mattis.

Thanks Rik - The Mattis pee-drinking story is the funniest thing I've
read this year. In Mattis' honor I wanted to bring back my personal
favorite from him last season. Here, he recounts his exploits in the
last stage of the Elkhorn Stage Race last year. Here's the setup:

"Heading into the left hand turn to start the climb, I asked Jeff "are
you ready to see some fireworks?" He shrugged his shoulders. At the
base of the climb I kept it in my big ring while everyone shifted to
their little rings - and powered up the climb and away from the group.

And the money-shot:

"Doug Ollerenshaw was the only rider able to accelerate onto my wheel
as the rest of the pack watched in shock and awe at the speed and
power of my acceleration."

Stewart Fleming said:

Didn't Mattis have about 280-320W last year according to some SRM graph
that got posted? Now he's at what - 377-399W and Horner is 450-480???
Crikey.

He made some changes to his diet.

Bob Schwartz
[email hidden]

is this watts at threshold or something?... if it is then that kind of
of improvement is easy to achieve through training... he has gone from
not so good a level to a normal level for a pro biker... he has improved
a lot since he started to race nationaly... having horner on your team
will give you a big reason to push hard and make big efforts in
training.. much more than if you rode for the webcor team from last
year... if i was on the same team with old chris, then i would have to
be 450-480 just so i could be there to help in the end!... i think that
you will notice that quite a few of the guys from last year's team will
be a step up this year... in part because they have spent the entire
month of march on the front going hard near AT whereas last year they
were anonymous... if you go to a race and sit on all day you would
probably have been better off staying at home and training hard...

Bob Schwartz said:

Stewart Fleming said:

Didn't Mattis have about 280-320W last year according to some SRM graph
that got posted? Now he's at what - 377-399W and Horner is 450-480???
Crikey.

He made some changes to his diet.

Bob Schwartz
[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

He made some changes to his diet.

honey on his Cheerios, perhaps? 😄

erik saunders said:

is this watts at threshold or something?... if it is then that kind of
of improvement is easy to achieve through training... he has gone from
not so good a level to a normal level for a pro biker... he has improved
a lot since he started to race nationaly... having horner on your team

Watts at threhold, yes (with a bit of guesswork on my part - I know that
rider X in the US peloton is at 420-450 and rider Y is at 520 on
occasions). I know it wasn't quite fair to compare - I noted after
re-reading the report that he was talking about the Mt Rubidoux TT and
the SRM graph that was published I went back and looked at and it was
from SFGP in 2002.

Slight disagreement with your characterisation - it's never _easy_ to
make those sort of improvements in training...it's _possible_ but it's
_hard work_ :-)

It's interesting to keep track of...back when I was racing seriously
(early 90s), 390-400W was the entry-level power at threshold for a
European neo-pro.

Quoted message said:

were anonymous... if you go to a race and sit on all day you would
probably have been better off staying at home and training hard...

Amen to that.

On 7 Apr 2004 20:50:55 -0700, [email hidden] (Vance Legweak)

Quoted message said:

"Doug Ollerenshaw was the only rider able to accelerate onto my wheel
as the rest of the pack watched in shock and awe at the speed and
power of my acceleration."

I don't think this had "and awe" in it when originally sent out. It's
embellised above.

JT

[email hidden] (Rik Van Diesel) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

First you have to read the greatest non-fictional writer of our
century, Mattis, then once you cannot take it any longer. ?Read the
Saunders' Aritcle.

Everyone has a story from Redlands.

Mattis http://www.bike.com/template.asp?date=4%2F6%2F2004&page=2&lsectionnumber=3&lsectionname=Peloton+Stories&lsectiondirectory=franke

Saunders
http://www.eriksaunders.com/legends.MattisPee.htm

Hilarious! All I can say is this: James, don't quit your day job. And
Erik, perhaps when you finally give up the 12k dream, you should send
your resume to the Comedy Channel. That, or apply to be DK's body
guard and keep the peace.

uh.. yeah.. i have officially passed the 12k dream level... last year, thank
you...

watch out because i am going to race masters for LABOR!..."LABOR!"...

i am intereseted to see some power files from US pro.. where do i go?... and i
am going to race georgia with my ergomo and put the files up on my website...

Dude, stick to stories of drinking [censored], "what can BROWN do for you",
and fat gym coaches... These serious posts just aren't your style.

Quoted message said:

is this watts at threshold or something?... if it is then that kind of
of improvement is easy to achieve through training... he has gone from
not so good a level to a normal level for a pro biker... he has improved
a lot since he started to race nationaly... having horner on your team
will give you a big reason to push hard and make big efforts in
training.. much more than if you rode for the webcor team from last
year... if i was on the same team with old chris, then i would have to
be 450-480 just so i could be there to help in the end!... i think that
you will notice that quite a few of the guys from last year's team will
be a step up this year... in part because they have spent the entire
month of march on the front going hard near AT whereas last year they
were anonymous... if you go to a race and sit on all day you would
probably have been better off staying at home and training hard...

Quoted message said:

watch out because i am going to race masters for LABOR!..."LABOR!"...

That's more like it...

[email hidden] (erik saunders) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

uh.. yeah.. i have officially passed the 12k dream level... last year, thank
you...

Ooops. Sorry about that; I meant no disrespect...

Quoted message said:

watch out because i am going to race masters for LABOR!..."LABOR!"...

That would be the best thing for Masters racing since $3k carbon
frames and $3 low-carb apple fritters. I won't hold my breath waiting
though.

Quoted message said:

i am intereseted to see some power files from US pro.. where do i go?... and i
am going to race georgia with my ergomo and put the files up on my website...

If you haven't done so already, subscribe to the wattage email list
at:

http://lists.topica.com/lists/wattage

because there's lots of smart people and lots of power files flying
around there. I think they would really like to see your Georgia power
files. Also, maybe you know this already, but I saw the following
there...

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