Oh well hehe

"Darsh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

It seems I must have surgery again. I see the specialist again on Monday. I hope it is within
time, or I might have to hit the emergency room. If

it

Quoted message said:

becomes more of a problem, I will have to have two surgeries. One to

reduce

Quoted message said:

inflammation, and another to get to the root of the problem... the root is hard to find it seems
in my case. It has to do with anterior and

posterior

Quoted message said:

issues, and my (other) doctor has been there before. It is not all that complicated in principle,
but it is very complicated in surgical repair.

I think I will have to stop riding either entirely, or for a few years. I can just feel it. I have
begun to realize that it could be over.. youth, riding, general athletics, and being in some sort
of shape. Maybe if I

did

Quoted message said:

not ride those two days, it might not have re-occured, but my doctor never gave me an inclination
of anything as to when it would be OK. My doctor

was

Quoted message said:

ignorant. I am not going back to her, I have gone to a specialist; the

one

Quoted message said:

I will see agian on Monday.

I have a cyst, some sort of hidden, unknown, attachment to something up high. On the first
surgery, we relieved pressure... what I understand was

a

Quoted message said:

small grapefruit size "pressure"... No wonder I was sick. Happily, it

was

Quoted message said:

not connected to my rectum (ewwww I know). I was so pleased. It was skin related, probably from a
foreign matter, or ingrown hair system, or something trite like that. Then, there was the second
surgery...

We removed the "offending" areas.. with no conclusive results. The

cultures

Quoted message said:

came in and "it" was resistant, but not that resistant. A simple change

of

Quoted message said:

antibiotics. I can not really explain the healing process as it seems

alot

Quoted message said:

harder to do now. It is very involved, and very unpleasant. After two times of maintenance filled,
surgery induced healing, I am not ready for a third, and longer healing time. My mouth fills with
bile even considering the healing I might have to deal with. The healing I am going to HAVE to
deal with.

He says it will be about 5 days in the hospital, then weeks of healing. This entails daily visits
to the hospital, for 4-6 weeks. The last

surgery,

Quoted message said:

I went to work before the 3 WEEKS that my old doctor wanted. I was (not) ready. I am not sure this
time what the time will be. It will be long.

It is sort of troublesome when you don't have a way out. Usually there is

a

Quoted message said:

way out, even if you don't like it, you can get out. Anything, you can

get

Quoted message said:

out. I can't get out. I see a horrible spiral downhill from the stories

I

Quoted message said:

have read. It seems surgery creates more problems sometimes. I wonder where to go sometimes. I
wonder how, or who to talk to. I usually don't need that, but it is getting tough. There is
nothing good coming out of

my

Quoted message said:

doctor visits.

My mom told me today: "Just be sure to be really frank with the doctor."

I wondered what the hell she was talking about. It left me feeling that

she

Quoted message said:

assumes something from my condition, but won't or can't say it. I am not married. Maybe she thinks
I am gay? Maybe she assumes some sort of coorelation with my condition and gayness. My uncle is
gay, he is the youngest child (as am I). He has had a bunch of his rectum removed.

Maybe

Quoted message said:

I am the youngest, gay, troubled kid she had? I can't think of anything else she might think. She
does not know me very well, and she certainly

is

Quoted message said:

not keen to my condition. It sort of bothers me as to what she meant. Either way, I am not gay,
and from what I have read, gayness has nothing

to

Quoted message said:

do with my issue. I don't have an [censored] problem, I have a semi-close [censored] issue. I almost
wish it was associated with my starbright, then

it

Quoted message said:

would be easy.

Still, in my polyanna view of ultimate optimism, I can think it is

nothing.

Quoted message said:

I can think I am lucky. I can think that it might not be something to

beat,

Quoted message said:

but something to live with. I think I can do that, but I don't know.

Every

Quoted message said:

surgery gets tougher. The healing is real tough. I do my best and get through it, but now... I am
not having a good time. I really don't want a third go around. It is going to be very hardcore.
This time the incision will be larger, the depth will be another 4 inches like before. 4 inches
into my body, with no return but a slow heal... then problems, only to cut again to more healing.
It makes me sad and literally sick.

If only I could have broken my back on the mountainbike. At least that could be tangible. At least
there would be some kind of reason. I

thought

Quoted message said:

about how much money it would take to put me through this process. I

don't

Quoted message said:

have a lot of money (like hundreds), and 1 million dollars would not do

it.

Quoted message said:

It would take 1 million dollars, and then I would have to really think

about

Quoted message said:

it. That is a lot of money, and it is a lot of mental and physical pain.

I

Quoted message said:

am not sure I would take 1 million, but I might. I would certainly not take less.

Maybe I am just a weakling. Maybe I just need to get tougher. At one point, I can see it getting
me to nowhere. Who wants to hear about it all the time? A dead horse is a dead horse... let it go.

BUT! I said polyanna, and I am going to stick with it. No matter how unreasonable my optimism is,
I am going to try and stick to it... I am especially going to remember this when it is really bad.
When the healing is bad, when the bleeding is scary, I am going to remember my optimism,

and

Quoted message said:

I will remember how small I am in the world. I will concentrate on my importance of simply being.
The privilage of living on this planet.

I can't live long with a "drain" in my butt cheek for months, and the prognosis is gray. I hate
gray. I would hate the results of a realized gray even more.

I suppose I should change newsgroups. I am sure there is an alt.whiner.medical.wimp-death group
out there.

Cheers for AWMWD! hehe

What I can't really get a grasp on... is selling all my bikes.. having no mountainbike... Why have
a bike, if you can't even sit on it without

having

Quoted message said:

a near death experience? I am really good for nothing else but health.

It is all too simple, and then again way confusing. Again, it is the feeling of no direction to
take, no way out.

How do those familiar with this thought, handle it all? I am so stupid,

my

Quoted message said:

brain does not know what to do or how to think.

darsh

(Thanks for reading my wimpy, self-induced, selfish post about my pathetic health problems...
problems that are nothing compared to others....

Others

Quoted message said:

((people)) that are way tougher than I am. I feel pathetic and sad considering how tough people
are out there... embarrassed. I am sorry for offending anyone who has really dealt with serious
health issues, or has family that makes a daily reality of life. I applaud you.)

In a certain youth I had the pleasure of learning one phrase that made the difference. It goes: "
The only easy day was yesterday" Everything has an end. You will reach the end of this miserable
experience. My unsolicited advice is to stay positive, and not sell your bikes. Get into them even
more without riding them. I would be willing to bet that you will be riding again. Just take care of
your self and the rest will follow.

TJ

--
members.rogers.comtheblackfoxxOpen ↗ "Darsh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

It seems I must have surgery again. I see the specialist again on Monday. I hope it is within
time, or I might have to hit the emergency room. If

it

Quoted message said:

becomes more of a problem, I will have to have two surgeries. One to

reduce

Quoted message said:

inflammation, and another to get to the root of the problem... the root is hard to find it seems
in my case. It has to do with anterior and

posterior

Quoted message said:

issues, and my (other) doctor has been there before. It is not all that complicated in principle,
but it is very complicated in surgical repair.

I think I will have to stop riding either entirely, or for a few years. I can just feel it. I have
begun to realize that it could be over.. youth, riding, general athletics, and being in some sort
of shape. Maybe if I

did

Quoted message said:

not ride those two days, it might not have re-occured, but my doctor never gave me an inclination
of anything as to when it would be OK. My doctor

was

Quoted message said:

ignorant. I am not going back to her, I have gone to a specialist; the

one

Quoted message said:

I will see agian on Monday.

I have a cyst, some sort of hidden, unknown, attachment to something up high. On the first
surgery, we relieved pressure... what I understand was

a

Quoted message said:

small grapefruit size "pressure"... No wonder I was sick. Happily, it

was

Quoted message said:

not connected to my rectum (ewwww I know). I was so pleased. It was skin related, probably from a
foreign matter, or ingrown hair system, or something trite like that. Then, there was the second
surgery...

We removed the "offending" areas.. with no conclusive results. The

cultures

Quoted message said:

came in and "it" was resistant, but not that resistant. A simple change

of

Quoted message said:

antibiotics. I can not really explain the healing process as it seems

alot

Quoted message said:

harder to do now. It is very involved, and very unpleasant. After two times of maintenance filled,
surgery induced healing, I am not ready for a third, and longer healing time. My mouth fills with
bile even considering the healing I might have to deal with. The healing I am going to HAVE to
deal with.

He says it will be about 5 days in the hospital, then weeks of healing. This entails daily visits
to the hospital, for 4-6 weeks. The last

surgery,

Quoted message said:

I went to work before the 3 WEEKS that my old doctor wanted. I was (not) ready. I am not sure this
time what the time will be. It will be long.

It is sort of troublesome when you don't have a way out. Usually there is

a

Quoted message said:

way out, even if you don't like it, you can get out. Anything, you can

get

Quoted message said:

out. I can't get out. I see a horrible spiral downhill from the stories

I

Quoted message said:

have read. It seems surgery creates more problems sometimes. I wonder where to go sometimes. I
wonder how, or who to talk to. I usually don't need that, but it is getting tough. There is
nothing good coming out of

my

Quoted message said:

doctor visits.

My mom told me today: "Just be sure to be really frank with the doctor."

I wondered what the hell she was talking about. It left me feeling that

she

Quoted message said:

assumes something from my condition, but won't or can't say it. I am not married. Maybe she thinks
I am gay? Maybe she assumes some sort of coorelation with my condition and gayness. My uncle is
gay, he is the youngest child (as am I). He has had a bunch of his rectum removed.

Maybe

Quoted message said:

I am the youngest, gay, troubled kid she had? I can't think of anything else she might think. She
does not know me very well, and she certainly

is

Quoted message said:

not keen to my condition. It sort of bothers me as to what she meant. Either way, I am not gay,
and from what I have read, gayness has nothing

to

Quoted message said:

do with my issue. I don't have an [censored] problem, I have a semi-close [censored] issue. I almost
wish it was associated with my starbright, then

it

Quoted message said:

would be easy.

Still, in my polyanna view of ultimate optimism, I can think it is

nothing.

Quoted message said:

I can think I am lucky. I can think that it might not be something to

beat,

Quoted message said:

but something to live with. I think I can do that, but I don't know.

Every

Quoted message said:

surgery gets tougher. The healing is real tough. I do my best and get through it, but now... I am
not having a good time. I really don't want a third go around. It is going to be very hardcore.
This time the incision will be larger, the depth will be another 4 inches like before. 4 inches
into my body, with no return but a slow heal... then problems, only to cut again to more healing.
It makes me sad and literally sick.

If only I could have broken my back on the mountainbike. At least that could be tangible. At least
there would be some kind of reason. I

thought

Quoted message said:

about how much money it would take to put me through this process. I

don't

Quoted message said:

have a lot of money (like hundreds), and 1 million dollars would not do

it.

Quoted message said:

It would take 1 million dollars, and then I would have to really think

about

Quoted message said:

it. That is a lot of money, and it is a lot of mental and physical pain.

I

Quoted message said:

am not sure I would take 1 million, but I might. I would certainly not take less.

Maybe I am just a weakling. Maybe I just need to get tougher. At one point, I can see it getting
me to nowhere. Who wants to hear about it all the time? A dead horse is a dead horse... let it go.

BUT! I said polyanna, and I am going to stick with it. No matter how unreasonable my optimism is,
I am going to try and stick to it... I am especially going to remember this when it is really bad.
When the healing is bad, when the bleeding is scary, I am going to remember my optimism,

and

Quoted message said:

I will remember how small I am in the world. I will concentrate on my importance of simply being.
The privilage of living on this planet.

I can't live long with a "drain" in my butt cheek for months, and the prognosis is gray. I hate
gray. I would hate the results of a realized gray even more.

I suppose I should change newsgroups. I am sure there is an alt.whiner.medical.wimp-death group
out there.

Cheers for AWMWD! hehe

What I can't really get a grasp on... is selling all my bikes.. having no mountainbike... Why have
a bike, if you can't even sit on it without

having

Quoted message said:

a near death experience? I am really good for nothing else but health.

It is all too simple, and then again way confusing. Again, it is the feeling of no direction to
take, no way out.

How do those familiar with this thought, handle it all? I am so stupid,

my

Quoted message said:

brain does not know what to do or how to think.

darsh

(Thanks for reading my wimpy, self-induced, selfish post about my pathetic health problems...
problems that are nothing compared to others....

Others

Quoted message said:

((people)) that are way tougher than I am. I feel pathetic and sad considering how tough people
are out there... embarrassed. I am sorry for offending anyone who has really dealt with serious
health issues, or has family that makes a daily reality of life. I applaud you.)

geez, sorry to hear that dude, feel better!

"Darsh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

It seems I must have surgery again. I see the specialist again on Monday. I hope it is within
time, or I might have to hit the emergency room. If it becomes more of a problem, I will have to
have two surgeries. One to reduce inflammation, and another to get to the root of the problem...
the root is hard to find it seems in my case. It has to do with anterior and posterior issues, and
my (other) doctor has been there before. It is not all that complicated in principle, but it is
very complicated in surgical repair.

I think I will have to stop riding either entirely, or for a few years. I can just feel it. I have
begun to realize that it could be over.. youth, riding, general athletics, and being in some sort
of shape. Maybe if I did not ride those two days, it might not have re-occured, but my doctor
never gave me an inclination of anything as to when it would be OK. My doctor was ignorant. I am
not going back to her, I have gone to a specialist; the one I will see agian on Monday.

<snip>

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darsh

SOB Darsh! This really sucks!

Unfortunately, you can't rely on getting good advice from any doctor these days. And IMO, any HMO
doctor is about as low on the food chain as they come. I've had 4 different docs in as many years
and they were all uneducated dumb asses; They really [censored] me off!

Cysts are a [censored] though. Nobody really knows how some of them development. I've had one on my left
wrist for the past few years and DH'ing has not been kind to it. But the thought of having a HMO
doctor hacking into me is far more repulsive than just dealing with it. I know your case is totally
different and you don't have a choice, but to remove it.

Whatever happens don't stop posting you knucklehead!
--
Slacker

TBF said:

geez, sorry to hear that dude, feel better!

I certainly appreciate it, but I feel sort of bad (I feel great physically.. for the most part). I
am really whining about my condition, and I am sorry to put the group through it. I might never ride
bicycles again, but I still have the Hayabusa. I can ride it even today. Maybe now I will sell the
mountainbikes, and get back to the streetbike.

I am sure the regulars at alt.motorcycle.sportbike miss my ride reports at least a bit.. hehe.

I would never whine like I did in my post to anyone anywhere else, my family included. I do have to
say though, I felt a lot better after posting my troubles here (AGAIN). I can only thank you people
for putting up with it, and not flaming me to no end.

I am happy to be able to post here, sort of hidden from "real" peoples agendas for me. I just hope I
don't fall out of topic so much as I feel uncomfortable. Of course, this post might seem OT, but it
is really, or could be, a result of mountainbiking. Either way, it is certainly about my ability to
mountainbike... and hell, when did a post being OT stop me before?

Now that I think about it, from here on out, any motorcycle report or post I make, will be entirely
due to me NOT being able to ride a mountainbike. This makes all posts from me that have no
mountainbikeing content what-so-ever, toatally ON topic! What a joy. I can't go wrong there.

Thanks TBF, it will all be OK, even if I can never ride mountainbikes again.

darsh

"..::TBF::.." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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--
members.rogers.comtheblackfoxxOpen ↗ "Darsh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

It seems I must have surgery again. I see the specialist again on

Monday.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I hope it is within time, or I might have to hit the emergency room. If

it

Quoted message said:

becomes more of a problem, I will have to have two surgeries. One to

reduce

Quoted message said:

inflammation, and another to get to the root of the problem... the root

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hard to find it seems in my case. It has to do with anterior and

posterior

Quoted message said:

issues, and my (other) doctor has been there before. It is not all that complicated in
principle, but it is very complicated in surgical repair.

I think I will have to stop riding either entirely, or for a few years.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

can just feel it. I have begun to realize that it could be over..

youth,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

riding, general athletics, and being in some sort of shape. Maybe if I

did

Quoted message said:

not ride those two days, it might not have re-occured, but my doctor

never

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

gave me an inclination of anything as to when it would be OK. My doctor

was

Quoted message said:

ignorant. I am not going back to her, I have gone to a specialist; the

one

Quoted message said:

I will see agian on Monday.

I have a cyst, some sort of hidden, unknown, attachment to something up high. On the first
surgery, we relieved pressure... what I understand

was

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

small grapefruit size "pressure"... No wonder I was sick. Happily, it

was

Quoted message said:

not connected to my rectum (ewwww I know). I was so pleased. It was

skin

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

related, probably from a foreign matter, or ingrown hair system, or something trite like that.
Then, there was the second surgery...

We removed the "offending" areas.. with no conclusive results. The

cultures

Quoted message said:

came in and "it" was resistant, but not that resistant. A simple change

of

Quoted message said:

antibiotics. I can not really explain the healing process as it seems

alot

Quoted message said:

harder to do now. It is very involved, and very unpleasant. After two times of maintenance
filled, surgery induced healing, I am not ready for

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

third, and longer healing time. My mouth fills with bile even

considering

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the healing I might have to deal with. The healing I am going to HAVE

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

deal with.

He says it will be about 5 days in the hospital, then weeks of healing. This entails daily
visits to the hospital, for 4-6 weeks. The last

surgery,

Quoted message said:

I went to work before the 3 WEEKS that my old doctor wanted. I was

(not)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ready. I am not sure this time what the time will be. It will be long.

It is sort of troublesome when you don't have a way out. Usually there

is

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

way out, even if you don't like it, you can get out. Anything, you can

get

Quoted message said:

out. I can't get out. I see a horrible spiral downhill from the

stories

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

have read. It seems surgery creates more problems sometimes. I wonder where to go sometimes. I
wonder how, or who to talk to. I usually

don't

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

need that, but it is getting tough. There is nothing good coming out of

my

Quoted message said:

doctor visits.

My mom told me today: "Just be sure to be really frank with the

doctor."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I wondered what the hell she was talking about. It left me feeling that

she

Quoted message said:

assumes something from my condition, but won't or can't say it. I am

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

married. Maybe she thinks I am gay? Maybe she assumes some sort of coorelation with my condition
and gayness. My uncle is gay, he is the youngest child (as am I). He has had a bunch of his
rectum removed.

Maybe

Quoted message said:

I am the youngest, gay, troubled kid she had? I can't think of anything else she might think.
She does not know me very well, and she certainly

is

Quoted message said:

not keen to my condition. It sort of bothers me as to what she meant. Either way, I am not gay,
and from what I have read, gayness has nothing

to

Quoted message said:

do with my issue. I don't have an [censored] problem, I have a semi-close [censored] issue. I almost
wish it was associated with my starbright, then

it

Quoted message said:

would be easy.

Still, in my polyanna view of ultimate optimism, I can think it is

nothing.

Quoted message said:

I can think I am lucky. I can think that it might not be something to

beat,

Quoted message said:

but something to live with. I think I can do that, but I don't know.

Every

Quoted message said:

surgery gets tougher. The healing is real tough. I do my best and get through it, but now... I
am not having a good time. I really don't want

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

third go around. It is going to be very hardcore. This time the

incision

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

will be larger, the depth will be another 4 inches like before. 4

inches

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

into my body, with no return but a slow heal... then problems, only to

cut

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

again to more healing. It makes me sad and literally sick.

If only I could have broken my back on the mountainbike. At least that could be tangible. At
least there would be some kind of reason. I

thought

Quoted message said:

about how much money it would take to put me through this process. I

don't

Quoted message said:

have a lot of money (like hundreds), and 1 million dollars would not do

it.

Quoted message said:

It would take 1 million dollars, and then I would have to really think

about

Quoted message said:

it. That is a lot of money, and it is a lot of mental and physical

pain.

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

am not sure I would take 1 million, but I might. I would certainly not take less.

Maybe I am just a weakling. Maybe I just need to get tougher. At one point, I can see it getting
me to nowhere. Who wants to hear about it

all

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the time? A dead horse is a dead horse... let it go.

BUT! I said polyanna, and I am going to stick with it. No matter how unreasonable my optimism
is, I am going to try and stick to it... I am especially going to remember this when it is
really bad. When the

healing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is bad, when the bleeding is scary, I am going to remember my optimism,

and

Quoted message said:

I will remember how small I am in the world. I will concentrate on my importance of simply
being. The privilage of living on this planet.

I can't live long with a "drain" in my butt cheek for months, and the prognosis is gray. I hate
gray. I would hate the results of a realized gray even more.

I suppose I should change newsgroups. I am sure there is an alt.whiner.medical.wimp-death group
out there.

Cheers for AWMWD! hehe

What I can't really get a grasp on... is selling all my bikes.. having

no

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mountainbike... Why have a bike, if you can't even sit on it without

having

Quoted message said:

a near death experience? I am really good for nothing else but health.

It is all too simple, and then again way confusing. Again, it is the feeling of no direction to
take, no way out.

How do those familiar with this thought, handle it all? I am so stupid,

my

Quoted message said:

brain does not know what to do or how to think.

darsh

(Thanks for reading my wimpy, self-induced, selfish post about my

pathetic

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

health problems... problems that are nothing compared to others....

Others

Quoted message said:

((people)) that are way tougher than I am. I feel pathetic and sad considering how tough people
are out there... embarrassed. I am sorry

for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

offending anyone who has really dealt with serious health issues, or has family that makes a
daily reality of life. I applaud you.)

geez, sorry to hear that dude, feel better!

--
members.rogers.comtheblackfoxxOpen ↗ "Darsh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:qB3oa.537560$S_4.583615@rwcrnsc53...

Quoted message said:

TBF said:

geez, sorry to hear that dude, feel better!

I certainly appreciate it, but I feel sort of bad (I feel great

physically..

Quoted message said:

for the most part). I am really whining about my condition, and I am

sorry

Quoted message said:

to put the group through it. I might never ride bicycles again, but I

still

Quoted message said:

have the Hayabusa. I can ride it even today. Maybe now I will sell the mountainbikes, and get back
to the streetbike.

I am sure the regulars at alt.motorcycle.sportbike miss my ride reports at least a bit.. hehe.

I would never whine like I did in my post to anyone anywhere else, my

family

Quoted message said:

included. I do have to say though, I felt a lot better after posting my troubles here (AGAIN). I
can only thank you people for putting up with

it,

Quoted message said:

and not flaming me to no end.

I am happy to be able to post here, sort of hidden from "real" peoples agendas for me. I just hope
I don't fall out of topic so much as I feel uncomfortable. Of course, this post might seem OT, but
it is really, or could be, a result of mountainbiking. Either way, it is certainly about

my

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ability to mountainbike... and hell, when did a post being OT stop me before?

Now that I think about it, from here on out, any motorcycle report or post

I

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make, will be entirely due to me NOT being able to ride a mountainbike. This makes all posts from
me that have no mountainbikeing content what-so-ever, toatally ON topic! What a joy. I can't go
wrong there.

Thanks TBF, it will all be OK, even if I can never ride mountainbikes

again.

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darsh

No worries man, look me up if your in cold-a*s Toronto. I've been dying to get my Suzuki out of the
garage. All my riding buddies either crashed their bikes or go them repossessed!

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It seems I must have surgery again.

Damn. That sucks, but don't lose hope. I've had a number of surgeries (abdominal and structural) and
I know it sucks, but all things pass in time. Sounds like this is a big unknown or at least there's
differences of opinion, so don't assume the worst. Sounds like you're in for a tough recovery but if
you can hike and ride a 14er I know you have some determination. Use that. It works.

Focus on the good and the rest is just peripheral.

Take care, Matt

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It seems I must have surgery again.

Very sorry to hear this. Just keep in mind all us kooks out here in a.m-b are thinking of you and
hoping for the best, and want to keep updated.

I think you should make sure your mom knows you aren't gay - that will at least give you both one
less thing to worry about.

Darsh said:

It seems I must have surgery again. I see the specialist again on Monday. I hope it is within time,
or I might have to hit the emergency room. If it becomes more of a problem, I will have to have two
surgeries. One to reduce inflammation, and another to get to the root of the problem... the root is
hard to find it seems in my case. It has to do with anterior and posterior issues, and my (other)
doctor has been there before. It is not all that complicated in principle, but it is very
complicated in surgical repair.

Is this a pilonidal thing? Been there! it sucks, had several surgeries, been to bad doctors.

Finiding the right doctor is KEY.

Your not getting the flap surgery thing are you?

G

Darsh said:

It seems I must have surgery again. I see the specialist again on Monday. I hope it is within
time, or I might have to hit the emergency room. If it becomes more of a problem, I will have to
have two surgeries. One to reduce inflammation, and another to get to the root of the problem...
the root is hard to find it seems in my case. It has to do with anterior and posterior issues, and
my (other) doctor has been there before. It is not all that complicated in principle, but it is
very complicated in surgical repair.

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I have a cyst, some sort of hidden, unknown, attachment to something up high. On the first
surgery, we relieved pressure... what I understand was a small grapefruit size "pressure"... No
wonder I was sick. Happily, it was not connected to my rectum (ewwww I know). I was so pleased. It
was skin related, probably from a foreign matter, or ingrown hair system, or something trite like
that. Then, there was the second surgery...

Heh, I guess I've had more experience than I thought with weird cysts...you are describing a dermoid
cyst I think, one that forms around a misplaced piece of the wrong tissue sort. My son had one on
his eye that they weren't sure whether it was brain tissue leaking through his skull or a cyst until
they did the surgery.,

anyway Darsh....take a deep breath and go one day at a time. Ask around for who the best docs are
and get two or three opinions. Don't sell the bike just yet. And if you have to miss a season,
well... that' happend to the best of us.

so sez mom to amb...

Penny

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It seems I must have surgery again. I see the specialist again on Monday. I hope it is within
time, or I might have to hit the emergency room. If it becomes more of a problem, I will have to
have two surgeries. One to reduce inflammation, and another to get to the root of the problem...
the root is hard to find it seems in my case. It has to do with anterior and posterior issues,
and my (other) doctor has been there before. It is not all that complicated in principle, but it
is very complicated in surgical repair.

I think I will have to stop riding either entirely, or for a few years. I can just feel it. I
have begun to realize that it could be over.. youth, riding, general athletics, and being in some
sort of shape. Maybe if I did not ride those two days, it might not have re-occured, but my
doctor never gave me an inclination of anything as to when it would be OK. My doctor was
ignorant. I am not going back to her, I have gone to a specialist; the one I will see agian on
Monday.

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darsh

SOB Darsh! This really sucks!

Unfortunately, you can't rely on getting good advice from any doctor these days. And IMO, any HMO
doctor is about as low on the food chain as they come. I've had 4 different docs in as many years
and they were all uneducated dumb asses; They really [censored] me off!

Cysts are a [censored] though. Nobody really knows how some of them development. I've had one on my
left wrist for the past few years and DH'ing has not been kind to it. But the thought of having a
HMO doctor hacking into me is far more repulsive than just dealing with
it. I know your case is totally different and you don't have a choice, but to remove it.

slacker is that a "ganglion" I've got one on my wrist also and I was recommended to just leave it
alone by my doc.

penny

I don't think you come across as a whiner Darsh, so in this case, I'd take it that you'd just like
to get this off your chest (or whichever other body part as yet undetermined ;p). I think thats a
good thing, cus talking about it can be therapeutic so who knows, maybe you're already on the road
to a good recovery! Anyway there's plenty else to do besides biking, no one here really likes the
sport either, we're just here for the company. ;-pp

bloocow - take it easy, and everything will be easy.

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It seems I must have surgery again. I see the specialist again on

Monday.

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I think I will have to stop riding either entirely, or for a few

years. I

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can just feel it. I have begun to realize that it could be over..

youth,

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riding, general athletics, and being in some sort of shape. Maybe

if I did

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not ride those two days, it might not have re-occured, but my doctor

never

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gave me an inclination of anything as to when it would be OK. My

doctor was

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ignorant. I am not going back to her, I have gone to a specialist;

the one

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I will see agian on Monday. It is all too simple, and then again way confusing. Again, it is

the

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feeling of no direction to take, no way out.

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How do those familiar with this thought, handle it all? I am so

stupid, my

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brain does not know what to do or how to think.

darsh

darsh:

I hear your pain about losing biking, and if there is anything I can do, write me.

Your situation sounds worse than mine, at least when I try to ride again I don't require surgery.
Just a couple of days of pain, due to a spinal injury. I'm mostly off the bike now, working up to 45
minute rides, twice a week. Maybe that's all I'll get to. Prior to my injury, biking was a huge part
of my life, snow, rain, 6 hour epics, 24 hour team events, triathlons, and was training to become
competitive in trials.

It's been a year now, and just two days ago, while walking alone in the woods (something I couldn't
do last year, right leg was too weak, had to stick to smooth paths) and jumping from stone to log to
stone, I realized this: if biking worsens my problem, and takes away all the other simple things
that make life a joy, then to hell with biking.

Let it go.

But don't sell those bikes just yet. I thought about doing that last year, a few times, but bikes
are like old friends, and shouldn't be discarded when times are tough (unless you need the money,
then don't let the parting be bitter, think how they have helped you, and are helping you right to
the end). Use them to remember better times, and know that better times will come again. Talk to
people, talk to your old bike buddies, because they will help you get through the bad times. One
of mine certainly saved my sanity, kept me thinking about recovery, that what was ahead was worth
fighting for (thanks Ed, I owe you more than I can repay). He never talked about recovery, just
about all the good times we had, which reminded me that there will be good times again. Hold on
for those.

And I hope you don't have to give up all physical activity. When things are a little better, you'll
get more imaginative about staying active. Biking isn't the only thing out there. It may be the
best, but there are others almost as good.

Like just being strong, walking.

I've lurked on this NG for a while, and I know you have a sense of humour and friends that will help
you get through this. Best of luck, best regards,

- Chris.

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SOB Darsh! This really sucks!

Unfortunately, you can't rely on getting good advice from any doctor these days. And IMO, any
HMO doctor is about as low on the food chain as they come. I've had 4 different docs in as many
years and they were all uneducated dumb asses; They really [censored] me off!

Cysts are a [censored] though. Nobody really knows how some of them development. I've had one on my
left wrist for the past few years and DH'ing has not been kind to it. But the thought of having
a HMO doctor hacking into me is far more repulsive than just dealing with
it. I know your case is totally different and you don't have a choice, but to remove it.

slacker is that a "ganglion" I've got one on my wrist also and I was recommended to just leave it
alone by my doc.

penny

Yeah, it is. My doc said the same thing after he tried jabbing it (several times) with a hypodermic
needle without any success.

I had one big crash at the end of 2001 and I thought I broke that same wrist, but the x-rays were
negative. I hit the ground so hard I guess it dislodged the cyst, but it reappeared a couple weeks
later a about an inch from where it originally was.

Then this past Oct. on the way home from my last DH sesh of the year my frig'n hand went into
convulsions and got all contorted for a few minutes. Hurt like a SOB and scared the [censored] out of me.
--
Slacker

Darsh said:

I would never whine like I did in my post to anyone anywhere else, my family included. I do have
to say though, I felt a lot better after posting my troubles here (AGAIN). I can only thank you
people for putting up with it, and not flaming me to no end.

You've posted enough ride reports - some of more intersting ones - over the years, that "you deserve
a break today". I still haven't forgotten that snow-ride where you went off the ski jump and landed
on your back, with everyone staring in shock at the massive amount of fluid around you (his Camelbak
burst, for those who weren't around back then)! Maybe a good flashback there for you.

Good health is so important for mountain biking that its probably in the back of all of our
minds..certainly mine. Many of us have had health problems that have kept us of the bike (usually
for a much shorter period), so we can relate a bit to what you're feeling emotionally. Just hang in
there and keep hoping for the best. A positive attitude can have a significant impact on the
healing process.

--
-BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

Penny S. said:

Slacker wrote:

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Cysts are a [censored] though. Nobody really knows how some of them development. I've had one on my
left wrist for the past few years and DH'ing has not been kind to it. But the thought of having a
HMO doctor hacking into me is far more repulsive than just dealing with
it. I know your case is totally different and you don't have a choice, but to remove it.

slacker is that a "ganglion" I've got one on my wrist also and I was recommended to just leave it
alone by my doc.

I dunno, Penny... lions are pretty dangerous, and one with a gang orientation must be pretty scary.
Do they wear colors other than just orange?

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles habcycles.comhabcycles.comOpen ↗ Home of the $695 ti frame

Penny S. said:

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"Darsh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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It seems I must have surgery again. I see the specialist again on Monday. I hope it is within
time, or I might have to hit the emergency room. If it becomes more of a problem, I will have to
have two surgeries. One to reduce inflammation, and another to get to the root of the problem...
the root is hard to find it seems in my case. It has to do with anterior and posterior issues,
and my (other) doctor has been there before. It is not all that complicated in principle, but it
is very complicated in surgical repair.

I think I will have to stop riding either entirely, or for a few years. I can just feel it. I
have begun to realize that it could be over.. youth, riding, general athletics, and being in some
sort of shape. Maybe if I did not ride those two days, it might not have re-occured, but my
doctor never gave me an inclination of anything as to when it would be OK. My doctor was
ignorant. I am not going back to her, I have gone to a specialist; the one I will see agian on
Monday.

<snip>

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darsh

SOB Darsh! This really sucks!

Unfortunately, you can't rely on getting good advice from any doctor these days. And IMO, any HMO
doctor is about as low on the food chain as they come. I've had 4 different docs in as many years
and they were all uneducated dumb asses; They really [censored] me off!

Cysts are a [censored] though. Nobody really knows how some of them development. I've had one on my
left wrist for the past few years and DH'ing has not been kind to it. But the thought of having a
HMO doctor hacking into me is far more repulsive than just dealing with
it. I know your case is totally different and you don't have a choice, but to remove it.

slacker is that a "ganglion" I've got one on my wrist also and I was recommended to just leave it
alone by my doc.

I had a ganglion or baker's cyst on my wrist for years. The folk remedy is to lay a silver
dollar on it, then have somebody hit it with a bible. Never quite had the nerve to try that
one, although my sister was eager to help me out. It would flare and subside, flare and
subside. Finally I hit it against a brick wall during a fall, which evidently ruptured it,
and it never reformed. Can't say I recommend that, though.

Kathleen

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Damn Darsh. There are any number of phrases and sayings that can be passed along at a time like
this. Not having read what everyone else has passed along I am sure there is nothing I can say that
would be unique.

Just understand that my thoughts are with you.

Hope everything works out well. They usually do.

Marty

Mark Hickey said:

Penny S. said:

Slacker wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Cysts are a [censored] though. Nobody really knows how some of them development. I've had one on my
left wrist for the past few years and DH'ing has not been kind to it. But the thought of having
a HMO doctor hacking into me is far more repulsive than just dealing with
it. I know your case is totally different and you don't have a choice, but to remove it.

slacker is that a "ganglion" I've got one on my wrist also and I was recommended to just leave it
alone by my doc.

I dunno, Penny... lions are pretty dangerous, and one with a gang orientation must be pretty
scary. Do they wear colors other than just orange?

hey a ganglion cyst is a real thing, google it if you don't beleive me

penny

Kathleen said:

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slacker is that a "ganglion" I've got one on my wrist also and I was recommended to just leave it
alone by my doc.

I had a ganglion or baker's cyst on my wrist for years. The folk remedy is to lay a silver dollar
on it, then have somebody hit it with a bible. Never quite had the nerve to try that one, although
my sister was eager to help me out. It would flare and subside, flare and subside. Finally I hit
it against a brick wall during a fall, which evidently ruptured it, and it never reformed. Can't
say I recommend that, though.

Kathleen

that's what my doc told me too!

Penny