XT rear derailleur

Ferdie said:

I'm used to my Mega 9 rear shifter to downshift when I push with my thumb.
I just bought an NRS1 with an 04 XT derailleur/shifter and it upshifts
when I push with my thumb. Is this a change from the manu or did my LBS
just get it wrong? Or is it just a preferrence setting?

Thanks,
Ferdie

You're hosed. It's a low-normal derailer. Hope you aren't too particular
about that sort of thing.

John M

Nah, I can deal with it. I was just wondering if it was made that way or
installed that way and can be changed.

Can you explain what low-normal means?

Thanks

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Quoted message said:

Ferdie wrote:

You're hosed. It's a low-normal derailer. Hope you aren't too particular
about that sort of thing.

John M

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Quoted message said:

Nah, I can deal with it. I was just wondering if it was made that way or
installed that way and can be changed.

Can you explain what low-normal means?

It's particular to the derailleur. The spring pulls in a different way. To
get it back to the old style, you'll need to change out the rear derailleur.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

Man, some people prefer the low-normal (also called Rapid-Rise) to the
regular deraileur. When you suddenly have to start climbing hard and you
have to downshift, they can be very handy, since it is generally more
difficult for a deraileur to move to a bigger cog under pressure. The
Rapid-Rise spring makes this much easier for the deraileur. You may
really start to love it. You'll just have to get used to the reverse
action. On the plus side, now your front and rear deraileurs match in
their shifting action -- thumb for downshift and index finger for up.

- Noel

Ferdie said:

Nah, I can deal with it. I was just wondering if it was made that way or
installed that way and can be changed.

Can you explain what low-normal means?

Thanks

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Quoted message said:

Ferdie wrote:

You're hosed. It's a low-normal derailer. Hope you aren't too particular
about that sort of thing.

John M

Muskie said:

Man, some people prefer the low-normal (also called Rapid-Rise) to the
regular deraileur. When you suddenly have to start climbing hard and you
have to downshift, they can be very handy, since it is generally more
difficult for a deraileur to move to a bigger cog under pressure. The
Rapid-Rise spring makes this much easier for the deraileur.

Sounds like you wrote the Shimano marketing material. With a
high-normal derailer I can use my thumb when things get mucky. The
spring is not strong enough to overcome muckiness.

Greg
--
Destroy your safe and happy lives
Before it is too late
The battles we fought were long and hard
Just not to be consumed by rock'n'roll

G.T. said:

Muskie said:

Man, some people prefer the low-normal (also called Rapid-Rise) to the
regular deraileur. When you suddenly have to start climbing hard and you
have to downshift, they can be very handy, since it is generally more
difficult for a deraileur to move to a bigger cog under pressure. The
Rapid-Rise spring makes this much easier for the deraileur.

Sounds like you wrote the Shimano marketing material. With a
high-normal derailer I can use my thumb when things get mucky. The
spring is not strong enough to overcome muckiness.

Exactly. When I need a lower gear - REALLY need a lower gear, that
spring just isn't going to do the job. I'll have to soft-pedal s
stroke to get a shift (just when I don't need to be doing that).

That's the reason I liked the Sachs "reverse" front derailleur -
spring tension pulled the derailleur out (toward the big ring), and
cable tension (lots of it if necessary) pulled it toward the granny.
The other nice thing is that a reverse front derailleur is in the
right position for adjustment without any funky little plastic thing
holding it there.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

Good to know. I never thought of that. Hmmm. I almost bought one myself
a while back.

G.T. said:

Muskie said:

Man, some people prefer the low-normal (also called Rapid-Rise) to the
regular deraileur. When you suddenly have to start climbing hard and
you have to downshift, they can be very handy, since it is generally
more difficult for a deraileur to move to a bigger cog under pressure.
The Rapid-Rise spring makes this much easier for the deraileur.

Sounds like you wrote the Shimano marketing material. With a
high-normal derailer I can use my thumb when things get mucky. The
spring is not strong enough to overcome muckiness.

Greg