derailleur and speed question

jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9 speed.
Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Well then, you already know the answer. You can thank the shop when or
if you upgrade to 9 speed.

--
Slacker

jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9
speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are interchangeable with each
other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both road and mountain.
--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

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jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9
speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are interchangeable with each
other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and maybe 7 sp too are too
wide for a 9 sp chain.

Shaun aRe

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jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9
speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are interchangeable with
each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and maybe 7 sp too
are too wide for a 9 sp chain.

Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is absolutely correct,
since we are discussing derailleurs. So are you in a way, but you're
answering a different question. Plus you seem a little confused today. I
didn't know that the wheels were any wider, I just thought it was the cogs
on the cassette 😉
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jazu wrote:
> Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9
> speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
> I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
> Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
> Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are interchangeable with
each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and maybe 7 sp too
are too wide for a 9 sp chain.

Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is absolutely correct,
since we are discussing derailleurs. So are you in a way, but you're
answering a different question. Plus you seem a little confused today. I
didn't know that the wheels were any wider, I just thought it was the cogs
on the cassette 😉

Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to accommodate said and
the wider chain. Narrow chain will tend to fall off the jockey and jam
between it and the cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!

Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~

Shaun aRe

Shaun Rimmer said:

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Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is absolutely
correct, since we are discussing derailleurs. So are you in a way,
but you're answering a different question. Plus you seem a little
confused today. I didn't know that the wheels were any wider, I just
thought it was the cogs on the cassette 😉

Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to accommodate said
and the wider chain. Narrow chain will tend to fall off the jockey
and jam between it and the cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!

Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~

You didn't say jockey wheels. You said wheels which I normally call the big
things with tires on them 😉
Plus the discussion is still about derailleurs so wheel size has nothing to
do with it.
You really mean you have to live with yourself in that state everyday. Wow.

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jazu said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9
speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are interchangeable with
each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and maybe 7 sp too
are too wide for a 9 sp chain.

Hey Shaun... I of course covered my ass with the "almost all" phrasing 😉
Most people wouldn't try the 6, 7 der on 9sp and would probably opt to go
the other way around... 8 or 9 sp on a 6 or 7 sp.

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Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9 speed.
Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Yeah, he was wrong. You should be riding a singlespeed.

JD

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Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9
speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Yeah, he was wrong. You should be riding a singlespeed.

Nice,

Bill "gears" S.

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Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Yeah, he was wrong. You should be riding a singlespeed.

You know KMA.
WTF your problem is?

Wrong but it will work. I have a 8 speed XT I put on my
K2 / Proflex 2000. When you get the cash you will only need
9 speed shifters and a 9 speed chain.

I MTB 2004

I went from 5 to 7 with no problem its all in the
spacing and freehub body.

I MTB 2004

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Shaun Rimmer said:

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Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is absolutely
correct, since we are discussing derailleurs. So are you in a way,
but you're answering a different question. Plus you seem a little
confused today. I didn't know that the wheels were any wider, I just
thought it was the cogs on the cassette 😉

Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to accommodate said
and the wider chain. Narrow chain will tend to fall off the jockey
and jam between it and the cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!

Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~

You didn't say jockey wheels.

What TF other wheels are there on a rear mech?!?!? Heh...

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You said wheels which I normally call the big
things with tires on them 😉

The discussion is about 'deraileurs', silly.

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Plus the discussion is still about derailleurs

Egzactly! Duh!

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so wheel size has nothing to
do with it.
You really mean you have to live with yourself in that state everyday.

Wow.

Well, you've got more confusion to deal with than I ever have had or will
have, obviously!

',;~}~

Shaun aRe

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jazu wrote:
> Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9
> speed. Does it have to be strictly followed?
> I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
> Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
> Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

Yes, almost all Shimano rear derailleurs are interchangeable with
each other - 6, 7, 8, 9 speeds, both road and mountain.

Not quite right there Phil - the wheels on 6 sp and maybe 7 sp too
are too wide for a 9 sp chain.

Hey Shaun... I of course covered my ass with the "almost all" phrasing 😉
Most people wouldn't try the 6, 7 der on 9sp and would probably opt to go
the other way around... 8 or 9 sp on a 6 or 7 sp.

Wide (6/7) chain + narrow cage (8/9) mech = nope!

',;~}~

Shaun aRe - IME at least!

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Wrong but it will work. I have a 8 speed XT I put on my
K2 / Proflex 2000. When you get the cash you will only need
9 speed shifters and a 9 speed chain.

But won't nine speed shifters cause a lot of noise on his eight speed
cassette?

Dave

jazu' nospam said:

Specs of derailleurs say that particular derailleur is for 8 or 9 speed.
Does it have to be strictly followed?
I did buy my bike (Giant Yukon) in LBS, but I ask to put XT at rear.
Yukon is 8 speed bike but guy put me M750 which is 9 speed.
Was he wrong?. I don't think so because everything works fine.

zzzz,zzzz,ss,ss,ss,

Bill
The mind serves properly as a window glass rather
than as a reflector, that is, the mind should give
an immediate view instead of an interpretation of the world.
:-]

Shaun Rimmer said:

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Shaun Rimmer said:

> Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is absolutely
> correct, since we are discussing derailleurs. So are you in a way,
> but you're answering a different question. Plus you seem a little
> confused today. I didn't know that the wheels were any wider, I
> just thought it was the cogs on the cassette 😉

Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to accommodate
said and the wider chain. Narrow chain will tend to fall off the
jockey and jam between it and the cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!

Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~

You didn't say jockey wheels.

What TF other wheels are there on a rear mech?!?!? Heh...

Quoted message said:

You said wheels which I normally call the big
things with tires on them 😉

The discussion is about 'deraileurs', silly.

Quoted message said:

Plus the discussion is still about derailleurs

Egzactly! Duh!

Oops!!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

so wheel size has nothing to
do with it.
You really mean you have to live with yourself in that state
everyday. Wow.

Well, you've got more confusion to deal with than I ever have had or
will have, obviously!

See what you've done to me. I knew I should never have read your post.

--
Perre
"Now let's see where is that bike I was planning to go out on"

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Shaun Rimmer wrote:
>> Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is absolutely
>> correct, since we are discussing derailleurs. So are you in a way,
>> but you're answering a different question. Plus you seem a little
>> confused today. I didn't know that the wheels were any wider, I
>> just thought it was the cogs on the cassette 😉
>
> Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to accommodate
> said and the wider chain. Narrow chain will tend to fall off the
> jockey and jam between it and the cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW this!
>
>
> Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~
>

You didn't say jockey wheels.

What TF other wheels are there on a rear mech?!?!? Heh...

Quoted message said:

You said wheels which I normally call the big
things with tires on them 😉

The discussion is about 'deraileurs', silly.

Quoted message said:

Plus the discussion is still about derailleurs

Egzactly! Duh!

Oops!!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

so wheel size has nothing to
do with it.
You really mean you have to live with yourself in that state
everyday. Wow.

Well, you've got more confusion to deal with than I ever have had or
will have, obviously!

See what you've done to me. I knew I should never have read your post.

It's amazing how confused others become in the face of my ultimately
superior clarity of mind ',;~}~

Shaun aRe

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Shaun Rimmer said:

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> Shaun Rimmer wrote:
>>> Now this is what you get for speedreading again. He is absolutely
>>> correct, since we are discussing derailleurs. So are you in a
>>> way, but you're answering a different question. Plus you seem a
>>> little confused today. I didn't know that the wheels were any
>>> wider, I just thought it was the cogs on the cassette 😉
>>
>> Nope! The jockey wheels are wider, as is the cage to accommodate
>> said and the wider chain. Narrow chain will tend to fall off the
>> jockey and jam between it and the cage plates. TRUST me I KNOW
>> this!
>>
>>
>> Confused today? No more than usual mate ',;~}~
>>
>
> You didn't say jockey wheels.

What TF other wheels are there on a rear mech?!?!? Heh...

> You said wheels which I normally call the big
> things with tires on them 😉

The discussion is about 'deraileurs', silly.

> Plus the discussion is still about derailleurs

Egzactly! Duh!

Oops!!

Quoted message said:

> so wheel size has nothing to
> do with it.
> You really mean you have to live with yourself in that state
> everyday. Wow.

Well, you've got more confusion to deal with than I ever have had or
will have, obviously!

See what you've done to me. I knew I should never have read your
post.

It's amazing how confused others become in the face of my ultimately
superior clarity of mind ',;~}~

Finally. I found my bike. Now if I don't lose it again I'll be off to do a 2
day mountain trip in Norway. On the roadbike this time, but I will keep my
eyes open for offroad opportunities of which there are plenty I know.
http://www.telemark-tours.no/telemark-tours/index_eng.htm

--
Perre
"Hope the mountain air will clear up my head a bit. At least the sinuses"