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  1. Is there a standard or best way of dealing with dogs? Just
    got back from holiday, whilst there I hired a bike and did a
    few k, at one point two dogs got very aggressive and I
    discovered just how fast I could cycle ... faster than I
    ever thought possible, which was luckily for me faster than
    the dogs! I then had to take a large detour to make sure I
    didnt meet them on the way back!

    BTW, I did nothing to aggravate them....didnt shout at them
    or do anything other than cycle past the [censored].

    --
    Tumbleweed

    Remove my socks for email address

  2. Tumbleweed said:


    Is there a standard or best way of dealing with dogs? Just
    got back from holiday, whilst there I hired a bike and did
    a few k, at one point two dogs got very aggressive and I
    discovered just how fast I could cycle ... faster than I
    ever thought possible, which was luckily for me faster
    than the dogs! I then had to take a large detour to make
    sure I didnt meet them on the way back!

    BTW, I did nothing to aggravate them....didnt shout at
    them or do anything other than cycle past the [censored].

    i've found that to keep pedalling makes it worse and that
    the surprise of stopping and confronting them shocks them
    into submission. Waving a pump can help too.

    John B

  3. They're territorial, and you are the interloper. Often they
    don't really recognise a cyclist as being a 'person' ... so
    if you see a dog looking like they might take a run at you,
    it is often helpful to speak to them so they realize you are
    human and not some strange, swift adversary. Sometimes a
    friendly word is enough for a mildly concerned dog, but if
    they are at all aggressive, be very loud & commanding, and
    use the command words their master likely uses with them -
    STOP, HEEL, DOWN, etc. Of course, if you are in a foreign
    land, you may not know the words in the language the dog is
    familiar with, but commanding voice just the same is often
    enough to make the dog realize you are both not a threat,
    and are their superior.

    If you do end-up having to come off your bike - either
    because you are knocked down by the dog or it is the best
    option - use your bike as a shield to fend-off any attack.

    I have been dogged a few times, and it is unpleasant.
    Generally, the commanding voice has worked. Once, there was
    little opportunity, I was in farm country, passing 2 young
    boys playing in the ditch at the road by their farmhouse,
    and suddenly their dog (that I had not seen) was out of the
    ditch and at my pedals, defending his masters. The shock of
    it almost took me down, but adrenalin got the cranks turning
    and I darted out from his jaws, and dog soon decided I
    wasn't a threat anymore.

    On another occasion, I learned one other very important
    truism about dealing with dogs ... if you are cycling with
    mates, you don't have to outrun the dog, you just have to
    outrun one of your mates!

    Tumbleweed said:

    Is there a standard or best way of dealing with dogs? Just
    got back from holiday, whilst there I hired a bike and did
    a few k, at one point two dogs got very aggressive and I
    discovered just how fast I could cycle ... faster than I
    ever thought possible, which was luckily for me faster
    than the dogs! I then had to take a large detour to make
    sure I didnt meet them on the way back!

    BTW, I did nothing to aggravate them....didnt shout at
    them or do anything other than cycle past the [censored].

    --
    Tumbleweed

    Remove my socks for email address

  4. in message <[email hidden]>, JohnB ([email hidden]'😉

    Quoted message said:
    Tumbleweed said:


    Is there a standard or best way of dealing with dogs?
    Just got back from holiday, whilst there I hired a bike
    and did a few k, at one point two dogs got very
    aggressive and I discovered just how fast I could cycle
    ... faster than I ever thought possible, which was
    luckily for me faster than the dogs! I then had to take
    a large detour to make sure I didnt meet them on the
    way back!

    BTW, I did nothing to aggravate them....didnt shout at
    them or do anything other than cycle past the [censored].

    i've found that to keep pedalling makes it worse and that
    the surprise of stopping and confronting them shocks them
    into submission. Waving a pump can help too.

    Dealing with aggressive (or just playful) dogs can be
    difficult and (if they appear suddenly when you're
    travelling fast) decidedly scarey. A strategy I've found
    successful on occasion is to stand up on the pedals (make
    yourself look bigger) and aim directly at the dog. Most dogs
    will turn and run if you do this. Don't brake until/unless
    you really have to.

    I wouldn't stop in the presence of a potentially
    vicious dog.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
    jasmine.org.uk~simon "This young man has not
    the faintest idea how socialists think and does not begin to
    understand the mentality of the party he has been elected to
    lead. He is quite simply a liberal" -- Ken Coates MEP (Lab)
    of Tony Blair

  5. "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tumbleweed said:


    Is there a standard or best way of dealing with dogs?
    Just got back from holiday, whilst there I hired a bike
    and did a few k, at one point two


    dogs

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    got very aggressive and I discovered just how fast I
    could cycle ...


    faster

    Quoted message said:
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    than I ever thought possible, which was luckily for me
    faster than the


    dogs!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I then had to take a large detour to make sure I didnt
    meet them on the


    way

    Quoted message said:
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    back!

    BTW, I did nothing to aggravate them....didnt shout at
    them or do


    anything

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    other than cycle past the [censored].

    i've found that to keep pedalling makes it worse and that
    the surprise of stopping and confronting them shocks them
    into submission. Waving a pump can help too.

    John B

    I considered that for a second or two...but, they were two
    large dogs and I didnt fancy stopping on the grounds that if
    they were very aggressive I'd be a sitting target..with one
    dog I suppose you could always keep the bike between you and
    the dog, but even then you also have the problem of getting
    started again at low speed. Perhaps the trick is to see them
    far enough away and build up some speed so you get past them
    before they know what is happening?

    have you had any issue when restarting after stopping? I've
    got one of those ultrasonic dog things I must put a new
    battery in it and take it with me in future.

    --
    Tumbleweed

    Remove my socks for email address

  6. Tumbleweed said:

    Is there a standard or best way of dealing with dogs? Just
    got back from holiday, whilst there I hired a bike and did
    a few k, at one point two dogs got very aggressive and I
    discovered just how fast I could cycle ... faster than I
    ever thought possible, which was luckily for me faster
    than the dogs! I then had to take a large detour to make
    sure I didnt meet them on the way back!

    There's a [censored] of a dog on the Taff Trail south of
    Rhydyfelin. Goes for me every single time it's there -
    unfortunately, it lives on a farm next to barriers across
    the trail, so cyclists provide rich pickings for
    it.

    I've found shouting at it gets it to back away. The closest
    it's got is about a foot from my ankle, before I noticed and
    shouted. He dropped anchor in a cloud of dust.

    --
    Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeith Surveillance
    makes me free

  7. As previously said on this thread, the best thing to do is
    to shout a familiar command as loud as you can, repeatedly.

    In Ireland what works best is "Get in". It's a command which
    all dogs who shouldn't be on the road understand. Water in
    the face is excellent, as is getting off the bike and
    running after them.

  8. Tumbleweed said:

    Is there a standard or best way of dealing with dogs? Just
    got back from holiday, whilst there I hired a bike and did
    a few k, at one point two dogs got very aggressive and I
    discovered just how fast I could cycle ... faster than I
    ever thought possible, which was luckily for me faster
    than the dogs! I then had to take a large detour to make
    sure I didnt meet them on the way back!

    BTW, I did nothing to aggravate them....didnt shout at
    them or do anything other than cycle past the [censored].

    Best not to run - they think they've won and give chase to
    reinforce the point. If they really are aggressive rather
    than just playful, go for aggression towards them - you are
    much bigger than them and they will nearly always back down.
    Tools are riding fast at them with a lot of shouting, water
    bottle squirt, getting off with bike between you and them
    and if necessary charging them with bike out in front. If
    its in the UK when you get home, report it to the Council as
    dogs like that should be kept under control and not allowed
    unsupervised on public rights of way.

    Tony

  9. I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about 1980 (makes mental note to buy a new one)....If I remember rightly, it had a section on how to kill a rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle. Fascinating stuff

    ------------------------------------------
    (Cycle shorts may contain traces of nuts after a long ride)

  10. FranklynMint said:

    I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about 1980
    (makes mental note to buy a new one)....If I remember
    rightly, it had a section on how to kill a rabid,
    attacking dog with your bicycle.

    ITYM "bicycle pump". Not sure how well a CO2 pump would
    perform, proibably another instance where the good old Zefal
    HPX is superior ;-)

    --
    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.uk

  11. Just zis Guy said:


    FranklynMint said:

    I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about
    1980 (makes mental note to buy a new one)....If I
    remember rightly, it had a section on how to kill a
    rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle.

    ITYM "bicycle pump". Not sure how well a CO2 pump would
    perform, proibably another instance where the good old
    Zefal HPX is superior ;-)

    A CO2 cylinder placed strategically [1] and let off could
    be fun ;-)

    [1] I'll let you think where.

    John B

  12. JohnB said:
    Just zis Guy said:


    FranklynMint said:

    I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about
    1980 (makes mental note to buy a new one)....If I
    remember rightly, it had a section on how to kill a
    rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle.

    ITYM "bicycle pump". Not sure how well a CO2 pump would
    perform, proibably another instance where the good old
    Zefal HPX is superior ;-)

    A CO2 cylinder placed strategically [1] and let off could
    be fun ;-)

    Wasn't that how they killed the shark in Jaws 13?

    Quoted message said:

    [1] I'll let you think where.

    John B

  13. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    FranklynMint said:

    I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about
    1980 (makes mental note to buy a new one)....If I
    remember rightly, it had a section on how to kill a
    rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle.

    ITYM "bicycle pump". Not sure how well a CO2 pump would
    perform, proibably another instance where the good old
    Zefal HPX is superior ;-)

    I'm not absolutely certain that it requires an HPX to
    fight off a dog, but this is the principal reason why I
    always have a frame pump with me. Light as the Crank
    Brothers micropump is, it would make no impression on a
    dachshund even.
    --
    "You need to declare a jihad on your own ignorant ass."
    - Ed Dolan in alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent

  14. Quoted post said:

    it had a section on how to kill a rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle.

    You force the oxygen cylinder down it's throat and as it comes around to attack again shoot the cyclinder with your rifle. Always works for me.

    If accompanied by a companion an alternative is to push them off, preferably onto the pursuing mutt, and make a speedy escape.

  15. anonymous coward said:
    JohnB said:
    Just zis Guy said:

    FranklynMint wrote:

    > I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about
    > 1980 (makes mental note to buy a new one)....If I
    > remember rightly, it had a section on how to kill a
    > rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle.

    ITYM "bicycle pump". Not sure how well a CO2 pump would
    perform, proibably another instance where the good old
    Zefal HPX is superior ;-)

    IIRC wrapping lead tape around inside the handle bit is
    recommended to improve its usefulness as a weapon.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A CO2 cylinder placed strategically [1] and let off could
    be fun ;-)

    Wasn't that how they killed the shark in Jaws 13?

    Didn't James Bond kill a shark that way in Live And Let Die?

  16. JohnB said:

    A CO2 cylinder placed strategically [1] and let off could
    be fun ;-)

    Persuading the mad dog to keep still while you do it could
    be challenging,

    --
    Dave...

    Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. -
    Mark Twain

  17. robert.clark said:

    They're territorial, and you are the interloper. Often
    they don't really recognise a cyclist as being a
    'person' ...

    I always had a theory that they saw vehicles as a form of
    Wildebeest or Elk, to be heckled and hunted down by
    themselves and the rest of the pack.

    AC

  18. "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    A CO2 cylinder placed strategically [1] and let off could
    be fun ;-)

    [1] I'll let you think where.

    Unfortunately dogs have a habit of coming at you with the
    sharp gnashy bits at the front which makes access to
    suitable places more problematic.

    T

  19. "FranklynMint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about 1980
    (makes mental note to buy a new one)....If I remember
    rightly, it had a section on how to kill a rabid,
    attacking dog with your bicycle. Fascinating stuff

    Yep, I remember that, something about shoving the pump down
    the dogs throat. Alternatively, find the owner and shove the
    pump up their ar*e, I imagine this will stop future attacks!

    Cheers John

  20. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    FranklynMint said:

    I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about
    1980 (makes mental note to buy a new one)....If I
    remember rightly, it had a section on how to kill a
    rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle.

    ITYM "bicycle pump". Not sure how well a CO2 pump would
    perform, proibably another instance where the good old
    Zefal HPX is superior ;-)

    Think Live and Let Die

    best wishes james

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