Another shoe question.....

Hello at boot camp. in the running part.
1989....90....... I had a big new running pair...... and
a 8 dollor (u.s.a.) now 14...... pair of at this time
running shoes.......high arch too.

drill put big new one in storage box.. and I kept just your
cheep one running flats..not high arch or medi..anywas. so
many brands and names and styles now a day.... did fine. yet
before I went in I did a hell of a lot of runnng........ in
heepo and hard souls,,,

now my running days are over....

Just wanted to tell all....By and I well be fine... Going
Fishing.......

By all. god speed. r and r...

Hope to see you on the trails to say howdy...

in nature.........

"BlokeDownPub" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Hi All,

I'm new to running as have only been running for about 4
months so please bear with me if any of my questions
statements are a bit thick
🙂

I initilly bought a pair of New Balance 1040's as they
were in a sale (I am a tight scotsman). I have since found
out that these are for mild to moderate over pronators.
Having looked at the way I run, I think that I may be an
under pronator, as I have a high arch and seem to run on
the outside of my foot.

You think? You really need to know before you go any
further and waste more $$$. Go to a running specialty store
where they will analyze your stride, look at the wear
pattern on your old shoes, then recommend some shoes that
are specifically designed for your running style. You may
end up spending some extra money at first, but this is well
worth it IMO.

It is true that people with high arches tend to under-
pronate. However, this not always true. Go to the shoe store
and get a real answer.

Phil M.

--
"I gotta go. You're killin' me."

BlokeDownPub said:

Hi All,

I'm new to running as have only been running for about 4
months so please bear with me if any of my questions
statements are a bit thick
🙂

I initilly bought a pair of New Balance 1040's as they
were in a sale (I am a tight scotsman). I have since found
out that these are for mild to moderate over pronators.
Having looked at the way I run, I think that I may be an
under pronator, as I have a high arch and seem to run on
the outside of my foot. Due to this I'm getting pain in
the outside of my right foot and this is limiting the
distances I can do.

I've seen people mention that the NB 855 is a good trainer
as it's wide and cusions right the way across, but the
literature states that this is for over pronators too.

Can anyone give me a difinitive name of a good pair of
trainers that's for neutral to under pronators that offer
lots of cusioning (as I have eaten all the pies (220lbs)).

Thanks in advance, Gavin.

I too am a underpronator- wear out my shoes on the outside.
I run in Brooks Addiction- works for me. YMMV!

--
Bob Burns Mill Hall PA [email hidden]

"BlokeDownPub" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:40af16b6$0$262
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I have eaten all the pies (220lbs)).

All of them? Damn you!

Phil M.

--
"I gotta go. You're killin' me."

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I initilly bought a pair of New Balance 1040's as they
were in a sale (I am a tight scotsman).

I'd say your best bet, especially when you're just
getting started, is to visit your local running store and
get the help of a pro. I'm not talking about a pimple
faced part timer at your neighborhood mega sports store,
either. Talk to a REAL runner, someone who knows how
running shoes are constructed, what the different models
are intended to do, etc.

Being a starving grad student, I can appreciate the plight
of the budget-minded runner. However, I can almost guarantee
you'll waste MORE money rummaging around in sales bins not
knowing what you're looking for than if you go to a real
running store, drop the extra cash, and get the right shoe.
Once you've found your match, THEN you can look for bargains
on the web, mega stores, and so on, to your heart's content.

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Can anyone give me a difinitive name of a good pair of
trainers that's for neutral to under pronators that offer
lots of cusioning (as I have eaten all the pies (220lbs)).

Oh, and lay off the pies :-)

Hi there,

After trying through millions of shoes, I stand strongly by
the Adidas Response Cushion line. They also just released
the Adidas Response classics, which is either the '98 or '99
style of the shoe - a lot of people like how its built. I
suggest trying on both the classics and current model. I've
been through 8 pairs of these shoes in a row now... haven't
found a cushioning shoe that I like as much as them. A lot
of shoes tend to advertise "cushioning" but they still have
some medial support, which will cause you pain when you run.

Best of luck! Lisa

"BlokeDownPub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi All,

I'm new to running as have only been running for about 4
months so please bear with me if any of my questions
statements are a bit thick :0)

I initilly bought a pair of New Balance 1040's as they
were in a sale (I am a tight scotsman). I have since found
out that these are for mild to moderate over pronators.
Having looked at the way I run, I think that I may be an
under pronator, as I have a high arch and seem to run on
the outside of my foot. Due to this I'm getting pain in
the outside of my right foot and this is limiting the
distances I can do.

I've seen people mention that the NB 855 is a good trainer
as it's wide and cusions right the way across, but the
literature states that this is for over pronators too.

Can anyone give me a difinitive name of a good pair of
trainers that's for neutral to under pronators that offer
lots of cusioning (as I have eaten all the pies (220lbs)).

Thanks in advance, Gavin.

Anything, ANYTHING, but Nike, they suck big fat ones, and
are 'designer shoes' not athletic shoes. You can get
twice the shoe for half the money from any other
reputable shoe co.

"BlokeDownPub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi All,

I'm new to running as have only been running for about 4
months so please bear with me if any of my questions
statements are a bit thick :0)

I initilly bought a pair of New Balance 1040's as they
were in a sale (I am a tight scotsman). I have since found
out that these are for mild to moderate over pronators.
Having looked at the way I run, I think that I may be an
under pronator, as I have a high arch and seem to run on
the outside of my foot. Due to this I'm getting pain in
the outside of my right foot and this is limiting the
distances I can do.

I've seen people mention that the NB 855 is a good trainer
as it's wide and cusions right the way across, but the
literature states that this is for over pronators too.

Can anyone give me a difinitive name of a good pair of
trainers that's for neutral to under pronators that offer
lots of cusioning (as I have eaten all the pies (220lbs)).

Thanks in advance, Gavin.

BlokeDownPub said:

Hi All,

I'm new to running as have only been running for about 4
months so please bear with me if any of my questions
statements are a bit thick :0)

I initilly bought a pair of New Balance 1040's as they
were in a sale (I am a tight scotsman). I have since found
out that these are for mild to moderate over pronators.

The 1040 is a cushion shoe, it should be fine for you, or
at least within the New Balance line, this (and the 1022)
are the ones for high arched neutral/under-pronators. I'd
stick with it unless it's uncomfortable. From RRS: "
Created for those with medium- to large-frame build and
medium to high arches."

BTW, there's a reason that shoe is discounted (though still
fairly expensive even when discounted!) -- that line of
shoes hasn't exactly been one of New Balances greatest hits.

For future reference, the Asics Nimbus is fairly inexpensive
and should also work well for you.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

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Can anyone give me a difinitive name of a good pair of
trainers that's for neutral to under pronators that offer
lots of cusioning (as I have eaten all the pies (220lbs)).

First, you need to make sure that you really are an
underpronator.

A true supinator will strike on the outside of the forefoot,
NOT the heel. The feet of these people will tend to stay on
the outside of the forefoot, as underpronator means that
your feet don't rotate inward enough to absorb enough shock
of footstrike.

A strong overpronator (including those that need motion control--
definitely not underpronators) will also strike on the
outside, but on the outside of the HEEL (not the forefoot).
These people rotate the foot inward too much (often due to
being a heel striker), thus there is wear on the outside of
the heel and the inside of the forefoot.

People with slayed feet (feet turned outward when you run)
will strike on the outside of both the heel and the
forefoot. This is a form issue and can't be as easily
compensated by shoe choice.

If you really are an underpronator or neutral-to-
underpronator, you want to run in so-called "cushoined"
shoes. Since your high arch doesn't flex as much, you need
a flexable shoe. Personally, I'm 6'4"/198 and been with
Adidas for years, as they're the ones who actually build
shoes for large efficient runners. I have to run away from
any shoe that includes things like "stability" or medial
posts. I've used mostly the Ride (now the a3 ride) in
recent years, but also the Climacool. The Ride is
specifically made for large efficient runners who don't
need any of the pronation garbage.

Lyndon

"Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US
Olympic Track Coach Brooks Johnson

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After trying through millions of shoes, I stand strongly
by the Adidas Response Cushion line. They also just
released the Adidas Response classics, which is either the
'98 or '99 style of the shoe - a lot of people like how
its built.

I have not heard of the response classic. Are you sure you
don't mean the Adidas Supernova Classic? This is
essentially a reproduction the shoe that was first on the
market in 1998.

Phil M.

--
"I gotta go. You're killin' me."

yea, there actually is a response classic now; this is
fairly recent. i haven't seen them advertised much, but i
get them ordered through a small specialty running store.

lisa

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[email hidden] (Lisa P) wrote in
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After trying through millions of shoes, I stand strongly
by the Adidas Response Cushion line. They also just
released the Adidas Response classics, which is either
the '98 or '99 style of the shoe - a lot of people like
how its built.

I have not heard of the response classic. Are you sure you
don't mean the Adidas Supernova Classic? This is
essentially a reproduction the shoe that was first on the
market in 1998.

Phil M.

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yea, there actually is a response classic now; this is
fairly recent. i haven't seen them advertised much, but i
get them ordered through a small specialty running store.

lisa

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[email hidden] (Lisa P) wrote in
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After trying through millions of shoes, I stand
strongly by the Adidas Response Cushion line. They also
just released the Adidas Response classics, which is
either the '98 or '99 style of the shoe
- a lot of people like how its built.

I have not heard of the response classic. Are you sure
you don't mean the Adidas Supernova Classic? This is
essentially a reproduction the shoe that was first on the
market in 1998.

Phil M.

This might be a "make-up" shoe for a particular outlet. I
googled "Adidas Response Classic" and came up empty. I
checked Adidas.com - nothing (anything new should be there,
right?). I checked www.roadrunnsports.com
- still nothing. Where did you get these?

Phil M.

--
"I gotta go. You're killin' me."

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You think? You really need to know before you go any
further and waste more $$$. Go to a running specialty
store where they will analyze your stride, look at the
wear pattern on your old shoes, then recommend some shoes
that are specifically designed for your running style. You
may end up spending some extra money at first, but this is
well worth it IMO.

It is true that people with high arches tend to under-
pronate. However, this not always true. Go to the shoe
store and get a real answer.

I wish it were that easy. While the store may help you as a
beginner, you should become knowledgeable about your needs
in ways that few specialty running stores, if any, can.
Mostly, even in dedicated running stores, the assistants get
their knowledge from shoe mfr sales reps and from their own
limited experience with a brand or two that they like most
for themselves. They are apt to take what you tell them as
gospel, so, try not to bias them at first with guesses and
do query them for information.

Shoe descriptions fall short of differentiating them well
enough for you to tell without testing them on distance
runs, even descriptions within a given product line.
Further, from release to release, they can change
dramatically. Sometimes a store assistant can help with this
confusion, but quite often they only give the illusion of
knowledge and cannot substitute for a serious trial.

Remember, that 80% of running shoes never go for a run.

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Quoted message said:

You think? You really need to know before you go any
further and waste more $$$. Go to a running specialty
store where they will analyze your stride, look at the
wear pattern on your old shoes, then recommend some shoes
that are specifically designed for your running style.
You may end up spending some extra money at first, but
this is well worth it IMO.

It is true that people with high arches tend to under-
pronate. However, this not always true. Go to the shoe
store and get a real answer.

I wish it were that easy. While the store may help you as
a beginner, you should become knowledgeable about your
needs in ways that few specialty running stores, if any,
can. Mostly, even in dedicated running stores, the
assistants get their knowledge from shoe mfr sales reps
and from their own limited experience with a brand or two
that they like most for themselves. They are apt to take
what you tell them as gospel, so, try not to bias them at
first with guesses and do query them for information.

Shoe descriptions fall short of differentiating them
well enough for you to tell without testing them on
distance runs, even descriptions within a given product
line. Further, from release to release, they can change
dramatically. Sometimes a store assistant can help with
this confusion, but quite often they only give the
illusion of knowledge and cannot substitute for a
serious trial.

I agree with what you are saying. However, it is a good
place to start
IMO. This will reduce the chance of a beginner getting a
shoe based on marketing hype.

Phil M.

--
"I gotta go. You're killin' me."

asics-numbus should help out plodzilla

BlokeDownPub said:

Hi All,

I'm new to running as have only been running for about 4
months so please bear with me if any of my questions
statements are a bit thick :0)

I initilly bought a pair of New Balance 1040's as they
were in a sale (I am a tight scotsman). I have since found
out that these are for mild to moderate over pronators.
Having looked at the way I run, I think that I may be an
under pronator, as I have a high arch and seem to run on
the outside of my foot. Due to this I'm getting pain in
the outside of my right foot and this is limiting the
distances I can do.

I've seen people mention that the NB 855 is a good trainer
as it's wide and cusions right the way across, but the
literature states that this is for over pronators too.

Can anyone give me a difinitive name of a good pair of
trainers that's for neutral to under pronators that offer
lots of cusioning (as I have eaten all the pies (220lbs)).

Thanks in advance, Gavin.