Is There a Sweetener?

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the
calories of

sugar? I

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had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and
diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

Stevia is not as good as its proponents claim. See:

cspinet.orgstevia.htmlOpen ↗

" "Although there is no evidence of harm to people,
laboratory studies of stevia have found potential cancer and
reproductive-health problems. Stevia depressed sperm
production in male rats and reduced the number and size of
the offspring of female hamsters. Until those concerns are
disproven, stevia should not be used by manufacturers in
soft drinks, candy, or other foods," said David Schardt,
associate nutritionist for CSPI.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) over the past
10 years has rejected three food-additive petitions
for stevia because its safety had not been adequately
demonstrated. Canada also has not approved its use,
and last year a scientific review panel for the
European Community declared that stevia is
unacceptable for use in food."

It seems like you should be using real sugar and/or
aspartame, which has never been proven to be the evil the
anti-aspartamistas claim it is. Scratch the surface of their
claims, and you will find nothing to worry about, unless you
suffer from PKU, which you should already know.

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Quoted message said:

I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the
calories of sugar?

I

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had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and
diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

One of the best sweeteners available is called "SUCROSE".
100% nature it is one of the most wide spread sugars in
nature. Used in moderation it is 100% safe when used by
otherwise healthy persons.

JO

How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ? Anth

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I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the
calories of

sugar? I

Quoted message said:

had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and
diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

Good idea.

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How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ? Anth

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I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the
calories of

sugar? I

Quoted message said:

had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and
diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

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Good idea.

What ducking for cover, Nutrasweet or both ;-) ? Anth

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How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ? Anth

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I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3
the calories of

sugar? I

Quoted message said:

had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and
diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 17, 2004" <M.a.r.k
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Good idea.

What ducking for cover, Nutrasweet or both ;-) ?

In this case, both. Several years ago I debated these anti-
aspartamistas and was email bnox bombed by them, for showing
that Betty Martini was, is, and always will be, a liar.

You should know that she is the leading nutcase on the net
wrt aspartame. She was given a honorary doctorate by a non-
accredited bible college and now calls herself doctor. Hulda
Clark, and you know how I feel about her, has more of a
right to call herself doctor.

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Anth

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How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ? Anth

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote
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> I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.
>
> And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3
> the calories of
sugar? I
> had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and
> diarrhea.
>
> Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

(Someone should invoke Godwins then before this thread kills
the server!) Anth

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Good idea.

What ducking for cover, Nutrasweet or both ;-) ?

In this case, both. Several years ago I debated these anti-
aspartamistas

and

Quoted message said:

was email bnox bombed by them, for showing that Betty
Martini was, is, and always will be, a liar.

You should know that she is the leading nutcase on the net
wrt aspartame. She was given a honorary doctorate by a non-
accredited bible college and

now

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calls herself doctor. Hulda Clark, and you know how I feel
about her, has more of a right to call herself doctor.

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Anth

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"Anth" <[email hidden]>
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> How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ? Anth
>
> "TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]>
> wrote in message news:20040518151258.09877.00000061@mb-
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> > I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.
> >
> > And, that other sweetener that is something like
> > 1/3 the calories

of

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> sugar? I
> > had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas
> > and diarrhea.
> >
> > Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

One of the best sweeteners available is called "SUCROSE"...
Used in moderation...blah blah...Some Puke>>

Wow, Pukey. You have a real Junior High education working
for you. Now, go back to Study Hall, son...

holisticmed.comaspartameOpen ↗

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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One of the best sweeteners available is called
"SUCROSE"... Used in moderation...blah blah...Some Puke>>

Wow, Pukey. You have a real Junior High education working
for you. Now, go

back

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to Study Hall, son...

JO's point, which you obvously missed because of it's subtle
presentation, is that perhaps you should examine your
reasons for wanting a sugar substitute. Drinking "diet" soft
drinks will not make you skinny. If you are worried about
the calories in sugar, eat and drink less sweet stuff. Even
if you are diabetic, sugar is not totally taboo; just make
it an occasional treat in small amounts, not a major
component of your diet. Learn to drink your coffee and tea
unsweetened. Learn to do without whatever it is that you are
trying to sweeten with substitutes.

Oh, and learn to respond to strangers in newsgroups with
courtesy and reason, not schoolyard namecalling.

--Rich

Rich Shewmaker a écrit dans le message ...

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"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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One of the best sweeteners available is called
"SUCROSE"... Used in moderation...blah blah...Some Puke>>

Wow, Pukey. You have a real Junior High education working
for you. Now,

go

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back

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to Study Hall, son...

JO's point, which you obvously missed because of it's
subtle presentation, is that perhaps you should examine
your reasons for wanting a sugar substitute. Drinking
"diet" soft drinks will not make you skinny. If you

are

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worried about the calories in sugar, eat and drink less
sweet stuff. Even

if

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you are diabetic, sugar is not totally taboo; just make it
an occasional treat in small amounts, not a major component
of your diet. Learn to drink your coffee and tea
unsweetened. Learn to do without whatever it is that

you

Quoted message said:

are trying to sweeten with substitutes.

Oh, and learn to respond to strangers in newsgroups with
courtesy and reason, not schoolyard namecalling.

--Rich

Do not worry about those who respond to posts with childish
remarks!!! There is a myth put forth by those who want to
market expensive and off time dangerous sugar replacements
that table sugar or sucrose is unnatural and unhealthy. It
is neither!! As I mentioned it is one of the most abundant
of all sugars found in nature. It makes up around 10% by
weight of "fruits" like dates. Sucrose is composed of a
glucose and fructose molecule linked together. In the human
body sucrose undergoes hydrolysis to form an equal mixture
of D-glucose and D-fructose. Honey , loved by the table
sugar haters, is largely a mixture of sucrose, D-glucose and
D-fructose. So in effect eating table sugar (sucrose) has
the same effect of eating honey minus the antigens found in
honey that can in some people cause a fatal reaction. Eating
sugar in moderation is not only NOT fattening but very
healthy way to cut one appetite and lose weight. This has
been know by the ladies of Europe for centuries and is the
basis for the afternoon tea. A little tea with sugar and a
sweet cake at around 4:00 in the after noon serves to raise
the blood sugar level and stem the appetite. So that less is
consumed for the evening meal. The same is true for the
morning tea. One major problem is the English speaking world
is that much of the food consumed is pre-package or pre-
prepared and loaded with extra sugar. Taking a little extra
time to prepare food from the basic ingredients can over
come this problem. Not drinking "soft drinks" by the litre
(gallon) is also a good plan. Also don't stick a bowl of
"sugar poofos" in from of your kid in the morning and then
complain about the sugar company causing them to be over
weight with bad teeth. Get up ten minute early and fix the
kid a decent meal.

JO

(If you are looking at cutting your weight, you might want
to look into the recent Atkins studies which show that
protein regulates appetite, thus you eat much less on
Atkins) Anth

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Rich Shewmaker a écrit dans le message ...

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"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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One of the best sweeteners available is called
"SUCROSE"... Used in moderation...blah blah...Some
Puke>>

Wow, Pukey. You have a real Junior High education
working for you. Now,

go

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back

Quoted message said:

to Study Hall, son...

JO's point, which you obvously missed because of
it's subtle

presentation,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is that perhaps you should examine your reasons for
wanting a sugar substitute. Drinking "diet" soft drinks
will not make you skinny. If you

are

Quoted message said:

worried about the calories in sugar, eat and drink less
sweet stuff. Even

if

Quoted message said:

you are diabetic, sugar is not totally taboo; just make
it an occasional treat in small amounts, not a major
component of your diet. Learn to

drink

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Quoted message said:

your coffee and tea unsweetened. Learn to do without
whatever it is that

you

Quoted message said:

are trying to sweeten with substitutes.

Oh, and learn to respond to strangers in newsgroups with
courtesy and reason, not schoolyard namecalling.

--Rich

Do not worry about those who respond to posts with
childish remarks!!! There is a myth put forth by those who
want to market expensive and off

time

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dangerous sugar replacements that table sugar or sucrose
is unnatural and unhealthy. It is neither!! As I mentioned
it is one of the most abundant of all sugars found in
nature. It makes up around 10% by weight of "fruits" like
dates. Sucrose is composed of a glucose and fructose
molecule linked together. In the human body sucrose
undergoes hydrolysis to form an equal mixture of D-glucose
and D-fructose. Honey , loved by the table sugar haters,
is largely a mixture of sucrose, D-glucose and D-fructose.
So in effect eating table sugar (sucrose) has the same
effect of eating honey minus the antigens found in honey
that can in some people cause a fatal reaction. Eating
sugar in moderation is not only NOT fattening but very
healthy way to cut one appetite and lose weight. This has
been know by the ladies of Europe for centuries and is the
basis for

the

Quoted message said:

afternoon tea. A little tea with sugar and a sweet cake at
around 4:00 in the after noon serves to raise the blood
sugar level and stem the

appetite.

Quoted message said:

So that less is consumed for the evening meal. The same is
true for the morning tea. One major problem is the English
speaking world is that much of the food consumed is pre-
package or pre-prepared and loaded with extra sugar.
Taking a little extra time to prepare food from the basic
ingredients can over come this problem. Not drinking "soft
drinks" by the litre (gallon) is also a good plan. Also
don't stick a bowl of "sugar poofos" in from of your kid
in the morning and then complain about the sugar company
causing them

to

Quoted message said:

be over weight with bad teeth. Get up ten minute early and
fix the kid a decent meal.

JO

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TonishaWallace said:

eat and drink less sweet stuff..>> Learn to drink your
coffee and blah blah>> Oh, and learn to respond to
strangers>>

I remember the good old days of the Internet. You had
actually intelligent folks with informed answers. Now, you
have "blather queens" blabbing PC nostrums and believing it
is both: on topic and "helpful". What a blessing if we
could get these sort of windbags disconnected from the Net,
and back to watching their cutesy "stories" on TV.

Were you born this obnoxious, or did you have to study? BTW,
I don't recall any such sainted days, and I've been on the
net since the 80s.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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eat and drink less sweet stuff..>> Learn to drink your
coffee and blah blah>> Oh, and learn to respond to
strangers>>

I remember the good old days of the Internet. You had
actually intelligent folks with informed answers. Now, you
have "blather queens" blabbing PC nostrums and believing
it is both: on topic and "helpful". What a blessing

if

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we could get these sort of windbags disconnected from the
Net, and back to watching their cutesy "stories" on TV.

With this attitude, next time someone says "Cross At the
Green and Not In-between" DO NOT TAKE THEIR ADVICE!

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(Someone should invoke Godwins then before this thread
kills the server!)

Godwin does not apply.

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Anth

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> Good idea.

What ducking for cover, Nutrasweet or both ;-) ?

In this case, both. Several years ago I debated these
anti-aspartamistas

and

Quoted message said:

was email bnox bombed by them, for showing that Betty
Martini was, is,

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

always will be, a liar.

You should know that she is the leading nutcase on the
net wrt

aspartame.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

She was given a honorary doctorate by a non-accredited
bible college and

now

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calls herself doctor. Hulda Clark, and you know how I
feel about her,

has

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

more of a right to call herself doctor.

Quoted message said:

Anth

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> > How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ? Anth
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> > "TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]>
> > wrote in message news:20040518151258.09877.00000061@mb-
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> > > I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.
> > >
> > > And, that other sweetener that is something like
> > > 1/3 the

calories

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of

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> > sugar? I
> > > had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas
> > > and diarrhea.
> > >
> > > Is there a good (and hopefully natural)
> > > sweetener?

I heard of one called Trutina Dulcem (see link below). It is
supposedly all natural and low glycemic. Haven't tried it
myself so I can't comment on it; and I hear it's expensive.
I included a link below (in case you're interested).

trutinadulcem.comtrutinadulcem.comOpen ↗

Wayne Bryan www3.sympatico.cawaynebryanOpen ↗

TonishaWallace said:

I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the
calories of sugar? I had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives
you BAD gas and diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?