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  1. For whatever reason, the AMA listing for Dr. Chung no longer
    lists him as having admitting privileges nor as being board
    certified in cardiology.

    Only a few weeks ago Dr. Chung claimed vigorously that he
    did have these privileges and that the previous AMA
    information (Doctor supplied and not verified (in the case
    of admitting privileges at least) was correct.

    I repeat what others have voiced on this NG. However
    reasoned his advice may seem, I personally would not ever
    follow the advice let alone trust, someone who has lied to
    the AMA about his credentials.

    Am I alone in wondering why a PHD, cardiology specialist
    seems to have
    24/7 time to devote to internet flaming wars and seemingly
    eternal internet time to answer and rebute every single
    comment about him in several forums. I can only deduce
    that there must be no real practice in existance, no real
    patients in need of treatment (not one of whom has ever
    defended him or claims to have been treated by him), and
    that something "serious" must have happened for his
    career to derail as it must surely have.

    To those who want to follow this person's
    advice.............enjoy.

  2. Let me add one thing to this thread. After posting I went
    and checked other doctors on the AMA site. It seems that
    the AMA has revised their information database and now no
    longer lists hospital affiliations for any of its members.
    It also shows the specialization as self designated for all
    the AMA members.

    So there is nothing from the AMA changes that we can use to
    verify or dispute Dr. Chung's credentials. I would
    personally still never follow this nut's advice and stand by
    everything else I have said about this zealot who devotes
    his life to internet flames wars. What a waste of a good
    education.

  3. x-no-archive: yes I am very sure Dr. Nagler will be happy
    about this, so as I and others in the group that believe in
    the _truth_ ;-)

    Indeed God works in mysterious ways.

    May all the praises go to him :-)

    May all the praises go to him :-)

    May all the praises go to him :-)

    May all the praises go to him :-)

    ... and even more.... :-)

  4. Nospam said:

    Am I alone in wondering why a PHD, cardiology specialist
    seems to have
    24/7 time to devote to internet flaming wars and seemingly
    eternal internet time to answer and rebute every single
    comment about him in several forums. I can only deduce
    that there must be no real practice in existance, no
    real patients in need of treatment (not one of whom has
    ever defended him or claims to have been treated by
    him), and that something "serious" must have happened
    for his career to derail as it must surely have.

    To those who want to follow this person's
    advice.............enjoy.

    I've also questioned the inordinate amount of time Dr. Chung
    seem to devote to this ng. Hey, maybe he only needs two
    hours of sleep per day...

    More importantly, anyone who *acts* upon medical advice
    offered by *any* internet doctor without seeing a real, in-
    person one is living dangerously.

    L.

  5. Nospam <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    For whatever reason, the AMA listing for Dr. Chung no
    longer lists him as having admitting privileges nor as
    being board certified in cardiology.

    Only a few weeks ago Dr. Chung claimed vigorously that he
    did have these privileges and that the previous AMA
    information (Doctor supplied and not verified (in the case
    of admitting privileges at least) was correct.

    I repeat what others have voiced on this NG. However
    reasoned his advice may seem, I personally would not ever
    follow the advice let alone trust, someone who has lied to
    the AMA about his credentials.

    Do you suggest we here would be stupid enough to take
    medical adivce off a newsgroup without checking it out?

    Your mamma shouldn't let you out alone boyo. You're a hazard
    to yourself.

    Zee

    Quoted message said:


    Am I alone in wondering why a PHD, cardiology specialist
    seems to have
    24/7 time to devote to internet flaming wars and seemingly
    eternal internet time to answer and rebute every single
    comment about him in several forums. I can only deduce
    that there must be no real practice in existance, no
    real patients in need of treatment (not one of whom has
    ever defended him or claims to have been treated by
    him), and that something "serious" must have happened
    for his career to derail as it must surely have.

    To those who want to follow this person's
    advice.............enjoy.

  6. Nospam <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    For whatever reason, the AMA listing for Dr. Chung no
    longer lists him as having admitting privileges nor as
    being board certified in cardiology.

    Only a few weeks ago Dr. Chung claimed vigorously that he
    did have these privileges and that the previous AMA
    information (Doctor supplied and not verified (in the case
    of admitting privileges at least) was correct.

    I repeat what others have voiced on this NG. However
    reasoned his advice may seem, I personally would not ever
    follow the advice let alone trust, someone who has lied to
    the AMA about his credentials.

    Do you suggest we here would be stupid enough to take
    medical adivce off a newsgroup without checking it out?

    Your mamma shouldn't let you out alone boyo. You're a hazard
    to yourself.

    Zee

    Quoted message said:


    Am I alone in wondering why a PHD, cardiology specialist
    seems to have
    24/7 time to devote to internet flaming wars and seemingly
    eternal internet time to answer and rebute every single
    comment about him in several forums. I can only deduce
    that there must be no real practice in existance, no
    real patients in need of treatment (not one of whom has
    ever defended him or claims to have been treated by
    him), and that something "serious" must have happened
    for his career to derail as it must surely have.

    To those who want to follow this person's
    advice.............enjoy.

  7. fresh~horses said:

    Nospam <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    For whatever reason, the AMA listing for Dr. Chung no
    longer lists him as having admitting privileges nor as
    being board certified in cardiology.

    Only a few weeks ago Dr. Chung claimed vigorously that
    he did have these privileges and that the previous AMA
    information (Doctor supplied and not verified (in the
    case of admitting privileges at least) was correct.

    I repeat what others have voiced on this NG. However
    reasoned his advice may seem, I personally would not
    ever follow the advice let alone trust, someone who has
    lied to the AMA about his credentials.

    Do you suggest we here would be stupid enough to take
    medical adivce off a newsgroup without checking it out?

    Your mamma shouldn't let you out alone boyo. You're a
    hazard to yourself.

    Zee

    So it would seem.

    He remains in my prayers to God in Christ's name.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  8. Quoted message said:
    Nospam said:

    Am I alone in wondering why a PHD, cardiology specialist
    seems to have
    24/7 time to devote to internet flaming wars and
    seemingly eternal internet time to answer and rebute
    every single comment about him in several forums. I
    can only deduce that there must be no real practice in
    existance, no real patients in need of treatment (not
    one of whom has ever defended him or claims to have
    been treated by him), and that something "serious"
    must have happened for his career to derail as it must
    surely have.

    To those who want to follow this person's
    advice.............enjoy.

    I've also questioned the inordinate amount of time Dr.
    Chung seem to devote to this ng. Hey, maybe he only needs
    two hours of sleep per day...

    God helps me in this and all other things :-)

    He is after all, the Almighty.

    Quoted message said:


    More importantly, anyone who *acts* upon medical advice
    offered by *any* internet doctor without seeing a real,
    in-person one is living dangerously.

    Agree. That's why I make it a point *not* to give medical
    advice through Usenet.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  9. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Nospam said:

    Am I alone in wondering why a PHD, cardiology
    specialist seems to have
    24/7 time to devote to internet flaming wars and
    seemingly eternal internet time to answer and rebute
    every single comment about him in several forums. I
    can only deduce that there must be no real practice
    in existance, no real patients in need of treatment
    (not one of whom has ever defended him or claims to
    have been treated by him), and that something
    "serious" must have happened for his career to
    derail as it must surely have.

    To those who want to follow this person's
    advice.............enjoy.

    I've also questioned the inordinate amount of time Dr.
    Chung seem to devote to this ng. Hey, maybe he only
    needs two hours of sleep per day...

    God helps me in this and all other things :-)

    How?

    Quoted message said:


    He is after all, the Almighty.

    The almighty what?

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    More importantly, anyone who *acts* upon medical advice
    offered by *any* internet doctor without seeing a real,
    in-person one is living dangerously.

    Agree. That's why I make it a point *not* to give medical
    advice through Usenet.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    ** Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam? makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  10. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Nospam said:

    Am I alone in wondering why a PHD, cardiology specialist
    seems to have
    24/7 time to devote to internet flaming wars and
    seemingly eternal internet time to answer and rebute
    every single comment about him in several forums. I
    can only deduce that there must be no real practice in
    existance, no real patients in need of treatment (not
    one of whom has ever defended him or claims to have
    been treated by him), and that something "serious"
    must have happened for his career to derail as it must
    surely have.

    To those who want to follow this person's
    advice.............enjoy.

    I've also questioned the inordinate amount of time Dr.
    Chung seem to devote to this ng. Hey, maybe he only needs
    two hours of sleep per day...

    More importantly, anyone who *acts* upon medical advice
    offered by *any* internet doctor without seeing a real,
    in-person one is living dangerously.

    L.

    Oh look. Listener is back. But this might not be Listener.
    It might be someone using an alias for this alias.

    The real person who uses the alias Listener would know the
    answer to this:

    Q: Who used a jumper between channels to get that growl
    outa his amp?

    Zee

  11. Quoted message said:

    Oh look. Listener is back. But this might not be Listener.
    It might be someone using an alias for this alias.

    The real person who uses the alias Listener would know the
    answer to this:

    Q: Who used a jumper between channels to get that growl
    outa his amp?

    Zee

    Zee you are indeed a walking testimonial (poster child) for
    the damage statins can cause. Funny though, I haven't read
    that it causes permanent brain damage. In your case it
    obviously has unless the brain damage was there before you
    took Zocor.

    How about overdosing on something. Then we would all be
    spared your wisdom.

  12. Nospam <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Let me add one thing to this thread.

    Quoted message said:

    After posting I went and checked other doctors on the
    AMA site.

    Hmmm. Would suggest reverse order more face-saving. For you.

    It seems that the AMA has revised

    Quoted message said:

    their information database and now no longer lists
    hospital affiliations for any of its members. It also
    shows the specialization as self designated for all the
    AMA members. So there is nothing from the AMA changes that
    we can use to verify or dispute Dr. Chung's credentials.

    After all that time you spent in such noble pursuit.

    Quoted message said:

    What a waste of a good education.

    Yes indeed. You should find something else to do with
    your time.

    Zee

  13. fresh~horses said:


    Nospam <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Let me add one thing to this thread.

    Quoted message said:

    After posting I went and checked other doctors on the
    AMA site.

    Hmmm. Would suggest reverse order more face-saving.
    For you.

    It seems that the AMA has revised

    Quoted message said:

    their information database and now no longer lists
    hospital affiliations for any of its members. It also
    shows the specialization as self designated for all the
    AMA members. So there is nothing from the AMA changes
    that we can use to verify or dispute Dr. Chung's
    credentials.

    After all that time you spent in such noble pursuit.

    In a word:

    Despair.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What a waste of a good education.

    Yes indeed. You should find something else to do with
    your time.

    ...which is fleeting.

    These unbelievers remain in my prayers to God, in
    Christ's name.

    May they accept Christ as their personal Lord and Savior,
    someday, so that they too will have eternal life and the
    infinite riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  14. Nospam said:


    Quoted message said:

    Oh look. Listener is back. But this might not be Listener.
    It might be someone using an alias for this alias.

    The real person who uses the alias Listener would know the
    answer to this:

    Q: Who used a jumper between channels to get that growl
    outa his amp?

    Zee

    Zee you are indeed a walking testimonial (poster child) for
    the damage statins can cause. Funny though, I haven't read
    that it causes permanent brain damage. In your case it
    obviously has unless the brain damage was there before you
    took Zocor.

    How about overdosing on something. Then we would all be
    spared your wisdom.

    It's probably best to tread lightly with Zee (a.k.a
    fresh~horses,
    a.k.a. Badant, a.k.a MFG...) or ignore her.

    b.

  15. Tue, 18 May 2004 03:27:09 GMT in article

    Nospam said:


    Quoted message said:

    Oh look. Listener is back. But this might not be Listener.
    It might be someone using an alias for this alias.

    The real person who uses the alias Listener would know the
    answer to this:

    Q: Who used a jumper between channels to get that growl
    outa his amp?

    Zee

    Zee you are indeed a walking testimonial (poster child) for
    the damage statins can cause. Funny though, I haven't read
    that it causes permanent brain damage. In your case it
    obviously has unless the brain damage was there before you
    took Zocor.


    Well, I don't think that anyone can say for sure that Zocor
    (simvastatin) has caused brain damage for Zee, but according
    to some scientific articles the more lipid-soluble the
    statin, the greater propensity it has to cross the blood-
    brain barrier and affect the central nervous system and
    simvastatin is the most lipophilic drug in its class.

    --
    Matti Narkia

  16. Nospam <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Oh look. Listener is back. But this might not be
    Listener. It might be someone using an alias for
    this alias.

    The real person who uses the alias Listener would know
    the answer to this:

    Q: Who used a jumper between channels to get that growl
    outa his amp?

    Zee

    Zee you are indeed a walking testimonial (poster child)
    for the damage statins can cause. Funny though, I haven't
    read that it causes permanent brain damage. In your case
    it obviously has unless the brain damage was there before
    you took Zocor.

    How about overdosing on something. Then we would all be
    spared your wisdom.

    I seem to be a magnet for hypertensives.

    Zee

  17. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Nospam said:


    Quoted message said:

    Oh look. Listener is back. But this might not be
    Listener. It might be someone using an alias for this
    alias.

    The real person who uses the alias Listener would know
    the answer to this:

    Q: Who used a jumper between channels to get that growl
    outa his amp?

    Zee

    Zee you are indeed a walking testimonial (poster child)
    for the damage statins can cause. Funny though, I haven't
    read that it causes permanent brain damage. In your case
    it obviously has unless the brain damage was there before
    you took Zocor.

    How about overdosing on something. Then we would all be
    spared your wisdom.

    It's probably best to tread lightly with Zee (a.k.a
    fresh~horses,
    a.k.a. Badant, a.k.a MFG...) or ignore her.

    L.

    "Q: Who used a jumper between channels to get that growl
    outa his amp?"

    You don't know huh?

    That settles it then. This alias Listener using Listener's
    alias isn't real.

    Zee

  18. Nospam said:

    Let me add one thing to this thread. After posting I went
    and checked other doctors on the AMA site. It seems that
    the AMA has revised their information database and now no
    longer lists hospital affiliations for any of its members.
    It also shows the specialization as self designated for all
    the AMA members.

    So there is nothing from the AMA changes that we can use to
    verify or dispute Dr. Chung's credentials.

    Quoted message said:

    I would personally still never follow this nut's advice
    and stand by everything else I have said about this zealot
    who devotes his life to internet flames wars. What a waste
    of a good education.

    It appears you have none to waste. Time, yes, education,
    nada. antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.html Lift
    well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

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