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lazysegall · 2004-05-04T17:18:27+00:00

It is getting to that time of year. Any picks? The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems to be the third most important of the tours for GC and only a few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I am dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I think he could have won. On the other side of the coin, the Giro always seems to be a really good sprinters race. Can Cipo win any stages? Any other thoughts?

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lazysegall
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4 May 2004, 17:18 UTC #1

It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems to be the third most important of the tours for GC and only a few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I am dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I think he could have won. On the other side of the coin, the Giro always seems to be a really good sprinters race. Can Cipo win any stages? Any other thoughts?

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Curtis L . Russ
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4 May 2004, 18:22 UTC #2

lazysegall said:
On the other side of the coin, the Giro always seems to be
a really good sprinters race. Can Cipo win any stages? Any
other thoughts?
Forget the stage winners, the sprinters and the pink
jersey. The best part of the Giro now is Hispanic riders
going downhill.
Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
two wheels...

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Jtn
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4 May 2004, 21:21 UTC #3

simoni

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Richard Adams
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4 May 2004, 21:45 UTC #4

lazysegall <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems to
be the third most important of the tours for GC and only a
few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I am
dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I think
he could have won. On the other side of the coin, the Giro
always seems to be a really good sprinters race. Can Cipo
win any stages? Any other thoughts?
I expect the sprinters battle between Cipo and Peta to be
the main highlight, assuming it isn't completely one sided.
GC will merely be a sideshow.
4 more shopping days to Giromas.

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Tom Kunich
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5 May 2004, 00:02 UTC #5

"lazysegall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems to
be the third most important of the tours for GC and only a
few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I am
dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I think
he could have won. On the other side of the coin, the Giro
always seems to be a really good sprinters race. Can Cipo
win any stages? Any other thoughts?
Garzelli though up until the last minute it'll look
like Simoni.

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Sonarrat
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5 May 2004, 05:21 UTC #6

In article <[email hidden]>,
lazysegall said:
It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems to
be the third most important of the tours for GC and only a
few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I am
dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I think
he could have won. On the other side of the coin, the Giro
always seems to be a really good sprinters race. Can Cipo
win any stages? Any other thoughts?
You may call the GC race "bland" - I call it "wide open."
Simoni and Garzelli are getting the most press, of course,
and Popovych is also considered a contender. But the 2004
season so far has been nothing if not unpredictable.
Wouldn't it be wild if someone like Igor Pugaci or Uros Murn
caught just the right sail and landed on the podium?
-Sonarrat.

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Howard Kveck
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5 May 2004, 07:22 UTC #7

In article <[email hidden]>,
Sonarrat said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
lazysegall said:
It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems
to be the third most important of the tours for GC and
only a few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I
am dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I
think he could have won. On the other side of the coin,
the Giro always seems to be a really good sprinters
race. Can Cipo win any stages? Any other thoughts?
You may call the GC race "bland" - I call it "wide open."
Simoni and Garzelli are getting the most press, of course,
and Popovych is also considered a contender.
Go Popo! Ahem. Yeah, he sort of let me down earlier this
year, but I think he is in with a chance at the Giro.
Though I still think it'll be Garzelli.
--
tanx, Howard
"Moby [censored] was a work of art, What the hell
happened?"
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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Jonathan V.D. S
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5 May 2004, 11:01 UTC #8

lazysegall <[email hidden]> schreef in
berichtnieuws [email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
Simoni, I think.
Quoted message said:

The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems to
be the third most important of the tours for GC and only a
few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I am
dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I think
he could have won. On the other side of the coin, the Giro
always seems to be a really good sprinters race. Can Cipo
win any stages? Any other thoughts?
Cipo *can* win stages (why is it that nobody ever asks if he
will? That's the real question, isn't it?) Perhaps the giro
is suffering from the fact that it's the first GT of the
year. Many riders that have proved themselves in Italy try
to win in France. Failing that, they'll make up in Spain,
but there's no point in trying to make up for a lost season
that has hardly started.
At the same time, with Simoni and Garzelli present, I don't
see why the competition would be so bland. They've both
proven to be very capable in the giro, and some riders that
chose the tour (Hamilton, Basso, Leipheimer, Valverde) would
be hard pressed to beat them. In fact, I don't see anyone in
the peloton beating Simoni when he is at the peak of his
abilities.
Jonathan.

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Marlene Blansha
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5 May 2004, 17:05 UTC #9

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
"lazysegall" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:
It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems
to be the third most important of the tours for GC and
only a few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I
am dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I
think he could have won. On the other side of the coin,
the Giro always seems to be a really good sprinters
race. Can Cipo win any stages? Any other thoughts?
Garzelli though up until the last minute it'll look
like Simoni.
Garzelli hung on tough last year, but simoni is a better
climber especially on those really steep climbs. THe guy
can climb up walls! I remember the Zoncolan stage, he
just flew off- 27% at some spots! It could be either
simoni or garzelli.

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Richard Adams
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5 May 2004, 17:22 UTC #10

"Jonathan v.d. Sluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
lazysegall <[email hidden]> schreef in
berichtnieuws
[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
Simoni, I think.
Quoted message said:

The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems
to be the third most important of the tours for GC and
only a few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I
am dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I
think he could have won. On the other side of the coin,
the Giro always seems to be a really good sprinters
race. Can Cipo win any stages? Any other thoughts?
Cipo *can* win stages (why is it that nobody ever asks if
he will? That's the real question, isn't it?) Perhaps the
giro is suffering from the fact that it's the first GT of
the year. Many riders that have proved themselves in Italy
try to win in France. Failing that, they'll make up in
Spain, but there's no point in trying to make up for a
lost season that has hardly started.
At the same time, with Simoni and Garzelli present, I
don't see why the competition would be so bland. They've
both proven to be very capable in the giro, and some
riders that chose the tour (Hamilton, Basso, Leipheimer,
Valverde) would be hard pressed to beat them. In fact, I
don't see anyone in the peloton beating Simoni when he is
at the peak of his abilities.
Jonathan.
Alas, no Giro or Tour for Valverde as he's on a doomed team.

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Stewart Fleming
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5 May 2004, 19:42 UTC #11

Howard Kveck said:
Go Popo! Ahem. Yeah, he sort of let me down earlier
this year, but I think he is in with a chance at the
Giro. Though I still think it'll be Garzelli.
Needs a new nickname though...or maybe not, but for the
female fans only: "Ich liebe deine kleine Popo"

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Richard Adams
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5 May 2004, 21:43 UTC #12

"Jonathan v.d. Sluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
lazysegall <[email hidden]> schreef in
berichtnieuws
[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
Simoni, I think.
Quoted message said:

The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems
to be the third most important of the tours for GC and
only a few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I
am dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I
think he could have won. On the other side of the coin,
the Giro always seems to be a really good sprinters
race. Can Cipo win any stages? Any other thoughts?
Cipo *can* win stages (why is it that nobody ever asks if
he will? That's the real question, isn't it?) Perhaps the
giro is suffering from the fact that it's the first GT of
the year. Many riders that have proved themselves in Italy
try to win in France. Failing that, they'll make up in
Spain, but there's no point in trying to make up for a
lost season that has hardly started.
At the same time, with Simoni and Garzelli present, I
don't see why the competition would be so bland. They've
both proven to be very capable in the giro, and some
riders that chose the tour (Hamilton, Basso, Leipheimer,
Valverde) would be hard pressed to beat them. In fact, I
don't see anyone in the peloton beating Simoni when he is
at the peak of his abilities.
Jonathan.
They could always tame things if they get too exciting, by
tossing 35 riders, including the overall points leader for
being outside the time
limit.
Though they've tried to keep things above board, by
excluding Kelme, which day will the police raid the
team hotels?

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Howard Kveck
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6 May 2004, 06:21 UTC #13

In article <[email hidden]>,
Stewart Fleming said:
Howard Kveck said:
Go Popo! Ahem. Yeah, he sort of let me down earlier
this year, but I think he is in with a chance at the
Giro. Though I still think it'll be Garzelli.
Needs a new nickname though...or maybe not, but for the
female fans only: "Ich liebe deine kleine Popo"
Ouch... Hmm, so how about Popo Gigio?
--
tanx, Howard
"Moby [censored] was a work of art, What the hell
happened?"
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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Robert Chung
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6 May 2004, 07:00 UTC #14

Stewart Fleming said:
Howard Kveck said:
Go Popo! Ahem. Yeah, he sort of let me down earlier
this year, but I think he is in with a chance at the
Giro. Though I still think it'll be Garzelli.
Needs a new nickname though...or maybe not, but for the
female fans only: "Ich liebe deine kleine Popo"
Zinedine Zidane's nickname is Zizou and not the completely
logical ...

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Anonymous
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7 May 2004, 01:43 UTC #15

Ludo
"lazysegall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
It is getting to that time of year. Any picks?
The GC in this event seems to be really bland. It seems to
be the third most important of the tours for GC and only a
few Italian riders try to compete. Personally, I am
dissapointed that Valverde won't be there because I think
he could have won. On the other side of the coin, the Giro
always seems to be a really good sprinters race. Can Cipo
win any stages? Any other thoughts?
--

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Sonarrat
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7 May 2004, 08:13 UTC #16

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Ludo
Not riding. But Dudu is.
-Sonarrat.

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Robert Chung
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7 May 2004, 12:21 UTC #17

Popovych.

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Anonymous
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7 May 2004, 16:01 UTC #18

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Ludo
Not riding. But Dudu is.
-Sonarrat.
He still has the same chance of winning....but I love to
watch him ride.

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Marlene Blansha
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7 May 2004, 17:16 UTC #19

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Ludo
Not riding. But Dudu is.
-Sonarrat.
He still has the same chance of winning....but I love to
watch him ride.

Speaking of which, I am wondering what kind of skinsuit
Cipollini is going to wear for the opening prologue. Last
year there wasn't a prologue and he was gone by the first
time trial. You can always count on Cipo to liven things up
with some wacky skinsuit. Like that tiger stripe number!

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Jan
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8 May 2004, 22:21 UTC #20

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> Ludo
Not riding. But Dudu is.
-Sonarrat.
He still has the same chance of winning....but I love to
watch him ride.

Speaking of which, I am wondering what kind of skinsuit
Cipollini is going to wear for the opening prologue.
Last year there wasn't a prologue and he was gone by the
first time trial. You can always count on Cipo to liven
things up with some wacky skinsuit. Like that tiger
stripe number!
Yep... was certainly different!!! Slightly subdued on the
colour scheme though............ boring BEIGE !!!!
Jan

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