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"> > > > > Ludo
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> > Not riding. But Dudu is. > > -Sonarrat.
He still has the same chance of winning....but I love to watch him
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Speaking of which, I am wondering what kind of skinsuit Cipollini is
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to wear for the opening prologue. Last year there wasn't a prologue and
he
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was gone by the first time trial. You can always count on Cipo to liven things up with some wacky skinsuit. Like that tiger stripe number!
Yep... was certainly different!!! Slightly subdued on the colour scheme though............ boring BEIGE !!!!
Jan
Gold, actually, with that gold-lettered bike. WHere does he come up with these things? And he did really well! He could get the pink jersey in a couple of days! Go mario!
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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2g4kh2F4fp9mU1@uni- berlin.de...
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"> > > > > Ludo > > > > Not riding. But Dudu is. > > > > -Sonarrat. > > He still has the same chance of winning....but I > love to watch him
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> Speaking of which, I am wondering what kind of skinsuit Cipollini is
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to wear for the opening prologue. Last year there wasn't a prologue
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he
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was gone by the first time trial. You can always count on Cipo to
liven
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things up with some wacky skinsuit. Like that tiger stripe number!
Yep... was certainly different!!! Slightly subdued on the colour scheme though............ boring BEIGE !!!!
Jan
Gold, actually, with that gold-lettered bike. WHere does he come up with these things? And he did really well! He could get the pink jersey in a couple of days! Go mario!
I also liked Garzelli's tiger helmet.
It was gold??? I'd better adjust my satellite dish and/or get my eyes tested!!! LOL
Gold, actually, with that gold-lettered bike. WHere does he come up with these things? And he did really well! He could get the pink jersey in a couple of days! Go mario!
um it's possible but there's the little issue of the stage three finish...... Mario doesn't climb so good. But then McGee and Madiot may decline to defend it so who knows....
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Gold, actually, with that gold-lettered bike. WHere does he come up
with
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these things? And he did really well! He could get the pink jersey in a couple of days! Go mario!
um it's possible but there's the little issue of the stage three finish...... Mario doesn't climb so good. But then McGee and Madiot may decline to defend it so who knows....
True, they get into the mountains early this year, but I think Mario will be determined to get over that stage somehow. I read that he promised Pantani's parents that he would dedicate his first stage win to Pantani, and when you promise something like that you sort of have to deliver. If he hasn't won by then he'll get over that mountain!
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Gold, actually, with that gold-lettered bike. WHere does he come up
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these things? And he did really well! He could get the pink jersey in a couple of days! Go mario!
um it's possible but there's the little issue of the stage three finish...... Mario doesn't climb so good. But then McGee and Madiot may decline to defend it so who knows....
True, they get into the mountains early this year, but I think Mario will be determined to get over that stage somehow. I read that he promised Pantani's parents that he would dedicate his first stage win to Pantani, and when you promise something like that you sort of have to deliver. If he hasn't won by then he'll get over that mountain!
have no doubt that Mario will make all the mountaiuns up till 18-19. I don't see him dropping out as early as stage 3.... Just that stage 3 and possibly 2 will put a big enough time gap into the race that Mario and the other sprinters will have a very hard time wearing The Pink Shirt.
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>Gold, actually, with that gold-lettered bike. WHere >does he come up
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>these things? And he did really well! He could get the >pink jersey in a couple of days! Go mario!
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have no doubt that Mario will make all the mountaiuns up till 18-19. I don't see him dropping out as early as stage 3.... Just that stage 3 and possibly 2 will put a big enough time gap into the race that Mario and the other sprinters will have a very hard time wearing The Pink Shirt.
Isn't stage 18 where they do the gavia and finish in bormio?I think mario may just bail out, either that or he'll finish outside the time limit.
Bormio is a world cup ski destination- I think down is the only direction I'd want to go on THAT hill!
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>>Gold, actually, with that gold-lettered bike. WHere >>does he come up
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>>these things? And he did really well! He could get the >>pink jersey in a couple of days! Go mario!
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have no doubt that Mario will make all the mountaiuns up till 18-19. I don't see him dropping out as early as stage 3.... Just that stage 3 and possibly 2 will put a big enough time gap into the race that Mario and the other sprinters will have a very hard time wearing The Pink Shirt.
Isn't stage 18 where they do the gavia and finish in bormio?I think mario may just bail out, either that or he'll finish outside the time limit.
Bormio is a world cup ski destination- I think down is the only direction I'd want to go on THAT hill!
yep that's the one and there's Passo del Mortirolo (m. 1.855) - km. 12.8 - Gradient: 10.2 percent on stage 19, I've been led to believe that the 10.2% is average gradient and the is a section that is closer to 20% (here's the profile: cyclingnew-cyclingnew-Open ↗ s.com/road/2004/giro04/?id=stages/stage19 ).... Outside the limit is a destinct possiblity for more riders than just Mario. Figure that this may his last Giro I hope he gives it all he has to finish.
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- Gradient: 10.2 percent on stage 19, I've been led to believe that the
10.2% is average gradient and the is a section that is closer to 20% (here's the profile: cyclingn-cyclingn-Open ↗ ews.com/road/2004/giro04/?id=stages/stage19 ).... Outside the limit is a destinct possiblity for more riders than just Mario. Figure that this may his last Giro I hope he gives it all he has to finish.
For sure- I think it was on the last mountain stage last year where something like 25 guys finished outside the limit?I think that was the stage with all the snow, where poor Pantani crashed.
yep that's the one and there's Passo del Mortirolo (m. 1.855) - km. 12.8 - Gradient: 10.2 percent on stage 19, I've been led to believe that the 10.2% is average gradient and the is a section that is closer to 20% (here's the profile:
hmmmm that one is different than the one I read wonder who's got the betteer info.... Simoni's commnets led me to think that the cyclingnews profile was accurate but now I wonder......
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- Gradient: 10.2 percent on stage 19, I've been led to believe that the
10.2% is average gradient and the is a section that is closer to 20% (here's the profile: cyclingn-cyclingn-Open ↗ ews.com/road/2004/giro04/?id=stages/stage19 ).... Outside the limit is a destinct possiblity for more riders than just Mario. Figure that this may his last Giro I hope he gives it all he has to finish.
For sure- I think it was on the last mountain stage last year where something like 25 guys finished outside the limit?I think that was the stage with all the snow, where poor Pantani crashed.
Petacchi and Cioni finished outside the limit, after Peta the day before crashed in the ITT. Cioni super domestique who looks like he maybe gatting a little payback this year as he got a top 20 today while the rest of FB brought Peta home only 2 min down. 8 min faster than Mario I might add..... Yep snow and rain and true nastiness there last year.
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>- Gradient: 10.2 percent on stage 19, I've been led to > believe that the
10.2% is average gradient and the is a section that is closer to 20% (here's the profile: cyclin-cyclin-Open ↗ gnews.com/road/2004/giro04/?id=stages/stage19 ).... Outside the limit is a destinct possiblity for more riders than just Mario. Figure that this may his last Giro I hope he gives it all he has to finish.
For sure- I think it was on the last mountain stage last year where something like 25 guys finished outside the limit?I think that was the
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with all the snow, where poor Pantani crashed.
Petacchi and Cioni finished outside the limit, after Peta the day before crashed in the ITT. Cioni super domestique who looks like he maybe gatting a little payback this year as he got a top 20 today while the rest of FB brought Peta home only 2 min down. 8 min faster than Mario I might add..... Yep snow and rain and true nastiness there last year.
Yes, that was it, the chienale. I have to go watch that stage again. It would be good to watch on a hot day, all that ice and snow. !
A shift in starting point makes for a different profile, maybe it's that? I'm pretty sure I picked the correct ascent. (sorry, can't be bothered to look them both up now..).
nope looks right too me, just difernet from the profile at CN.com... make you wonder huh? The CN.com profile shows a section of 18% right about the middle. Perhaps it's amatter of scale, and that section si very short therefore doesn't show up on one profile, and thus may be a nonissue.
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>Marlene Blanshay wrote: > > > >>- Gradient: 10.2 percent on stage 19, I've been led to >> believe that the > >10.2% is average gradient and the is a section that is > closer to 20% (here's the profile: cyclin-cyclin-Open ↗ > gnews.com/road/2004/giro04/?id=stages/stage19 ).... > Outside the limit is a destinct possiblity for more > riders than just Mario. Figure that this may his last > Giro I hope he gives it all he has to finish.
For sure- I think it was on the last mountain stage last year where something like 25 guys finished outside the limit?I think that was the
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with all the snow, where poor Pantani crashed.
Petacchi and Cioni finished outside the limit, after Peta the day before crashed in the ITT. Cioni super domestique who looks like he maybe gatting a little payback this year as he got a top 20 today while the rest of FB brought Peta home only 2 min down. 8 min faster than Mario I might add..... Yep snow and rain and true nastiness there last year.
Yes, that was it, the chienale. I have to go watch that stage again. It would be good to watch on a hot day, all that ice and snow. !
interestinfg nore Petacchi said he actually felt good enough to hold with the climbers on the last ascent today (Stage 2) till the lit it up and he slipped back. He still thought that he and his boys could pull it back but "ran out of road.." (from cyclingnews.com)
