Should have pointed out to her at the start of the standoff that cycle paths are neither compulsory nor convienient and that bicycles have the same status as any other road vehicle and that you had right of way. Then given way, which would have left you and cyclists in a better light.
Wrong. Foreign and Commonwealth Office rules - never apologise, never retract, never explain.
Sit it out. State that you have ROW. Wait. Roll [censored] / fill pipe / read newspaper / pick nose.
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:47:37 +0100, Succorso <[email hidden]>
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Use the cycle path.
It's not the other road users fault if the cycle path is deficient in some way. Use it, and complain about it to someone who may listen (if you can find someone).
Mandatory use of cyclepaths is not enshrined in law. Right to use the highway is.
By the way, despite living closee to that area, last time I went that way it was a wide straight road.
What happened and when?
They put in pinch points put an end to joy riders using it as a drag strip in the evenings -- they have the effect of encouraging cars to speed through them regardless of non- motorised traffic. So they put in a cycle path on the pavement which runs along the shore. Waste of bleeding time.
Should have pointed out to her at the start of the standoff that cycle paths are neither compulsory nor convienient and that bicycles have the same status as any other road vehicle and that you had right of way. Then given way, which would have left you and cyclists in a better light.
Wrong. Foreign and Commonwealth Office rules - never apologise, never retract, never explain.
Sit it out. State that you have ROW. Wait. Roll [censored] / fill pipe / read newspaper / pick nose.
There was a sixties' comedy film called the Seven Deadly Sins (or somesuch) which was a series of sketches using each of the sins. pride was illustrated by two motorists meeting on a long narrow country lane. One in a Rolls Royce one in a Morris Minor (or the equivalent.) One driver working class, one upper class. Both refused to reverse. One was a member of the AA, one of the RAC. AA and RAC men turned up and supported their members' positions.
Perhaps we could have a modern remake, cyclist meets car driver at pinch point. Paul Smith and Chris Juden (sp?) turn up to support...
There was a sixties' comedy film called the Seven Deadly Sins (or somesuch) which was a series of sketches using each of the sins.
A wonderful film. "Bedazzled".
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Perhaps we could have a modern remake, cyclist meets car driver at pinch point. Paul Smith and Chris Juden (sp?) turn up to support...
"Bedazzled" was remade a few years ago, with Elizabeth Hurley in the role of George Spiggott. It was entirely lacking in the engaging charm of the original.
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Should have pointed out to her at the start of the standoff that cycle paths are neither compulsory nor convienient and that bicycles have the same status as any other road vehicle and that you had right of way. Then given way, which would have left you and cyclists in a better light.
Wrong. Foreign and Commonwealth Office rules - never apologise, never retract, never explain.
Sit it out. State that you have ROW. Wait. Roll [censored] / fill pipe / read newspaper / pick nose.
There was a sixties' comedy film called the Seven Deadly Sins (or somesuch) which was a series of sketches using each of the sins. pride was illustrated by two motorists meeting on a long narrow country lane. One in a Rolls Royce one in a Morris Minor (or the equivalent.) One driver working class, one upper class. Both refused to reverse. One was a member of the AA, one of the RAC. AA and RAC men turned up and supported their members' positions.
Perhaps we could have a modern remake, cyclist meets car driver at pinch point. Paul Smith and Chris Juden (sp?) turn up to support...
I can't remember how the film sketch ended.
Colin --
Starring Peter Cook & Dudley Moore ??...(ICBWAPA - I could be wrong and probably am!! ;-)
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:02:41 +0100, (t'other) Dave <[email hidden]>
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There was a sixties' comedy film called the Seven Deadly Sins (or somesuch) which was a series of sketches using each of the sins. pride was illustrated by two motorists meeting on a long narrow country lane. One in a Rolls Royce one in a Morris Minor (or the equivalent.) One driver working class, one upper class. Both refused to reverse. One was a member of the AA, one of the RAC. AA and RAC men turned up and supported their members' positions.
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Starring Peter Cook & Dudley Moore ??...(ICBWAPA - I could be wrong and probably am!! ;-)
Completely different film, though I have seen Bedazzled too. The one with the drivers was the Magnificient Seven Deadly Sins.
Ah yes, you are right - I seem to have conflated the two. Still, you did say a sixties comedy, while "The Magnificent Seven Deadly Sins" dates from the early seventies.
What I've done in a couple of situations a bit like that is: point at the big clear bleeding-obvious road sign, mime exaggerated applause *or* finger-wagging, and generously wave them through with a huge grin. Makes me feel better, makes them look [and if they are capable of feeling, feel] like a tw@t, and has even on occasion resulted in positive feedback from the motorist behind. As ever, YMMV though.
I wish I'd said that. Sadly I rarely have the presence of mind in such situations to do anything other than shake my fist or hurl invective at them.
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I do not think common sense prevailed for any party, just another example
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bloody mindedness for all of you, this kind of thing is immature and just creates bad blood between different classes of road user.
So what should I have done?
You should have been riding a trials bike so that you could have ridden up her bonnet, across her windscreen, along her roof, leapt onto her boot and from there to the ground. Not only would this have avoided the impasse but it would have guaranteed that she would have noticed you.
You should have been riding a trials bike so that you could have ridden up her bonnet, across her windscreen, along her roof, leapt onto her boot and from there to the ground.
That would've been supercool. Unfortunately, I have neither the equipment, nor the aptitude.
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So what should I have done?
You should have been riding a trials bike so that you could have ridden up her bonnet, across her windscreen, along her roof,
...pausing only to do a rear wheel bunny-hopped pirouette, then...
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leapt onto her boot and from there to the ground. Not only would this have avoided the impasse but it would have guaranteed that she would have noticed you.
>I do not think common sense prevailed for any party, >just another example of bloody mindedness for all of >you, this kind of thing is immature and just creates bad >blood between different classes of road user.
So what should I have done?
Use the cycle path.
It's not the other road users fault if the cycle path is deficient in some way.
So he should put his life at risk in order to prove a point? I think not!
I think he's capable of working out if he's putting his life at risk.
-- Michael MacClancy Random putdown - "A modest little person, with much to be modest about."- Winston Churchill www.macclancy.demon.co.uk www.macclancy.co.uk
give her a bollocking and whizz round. Watching two stubborn people facing each other down would [censored] anyone off, esp if you are on your way to work/school/whatever... it's no place to debate the rights and wrongs of ech others' position.
When I used to commute by motorcycle, it became apparent how useful a swift MX boot to the door was at pushing cars back into the lanes they were drifting out of, particularly on Portwood roundabout in Stockport. The driver hears a thud, sees you and craps themselves, thinking they have hit you. Haha! Or so I heard anyway...
You should have been riding a trials bike so that you could have ridden up her bonnet, across her windscreen, along her roof, leapt onto her boot and from there to the ground. Not only would this have avoided the impasse but it would have guaranteed that she would have noticed you.
Except that whenever you try and do it in that sort of situation your rear wheel slips and you end up munching bonnet on the first move.
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What I've done in a couple of situations a bit like that is: point at the big clear bleeding-obvious road sign, mime exaggerated applause *or* finger-wagging, and generously wave them through with a huge grin. Makes me feel better, makes them look [and if they are capable of feeling, feel] like a tw@t, and has even on occasion resulted in positive feedback from the motorist behind. As ever, YMMV though.
Having read this dilemma and tried to come up with an answer (it's the bl**dy stupid situation that I have found myself in), and what you have said, using humour, and, in effect, making a fool of the driver, is probably the best solution.
When I used to commute by motorcycle, it became apparent how useful a swift MX boot to the door was at pushing cars back into the lanes they were drifting out of, particularly on Portwood roundabout in Stockport. The driver hears a thud, sees you and craps themselves, thinking they have hit you. Haha! Or so I heard anyway...
A friend suggested that where possible you should aim for the filler cap since the bodywork here tends to be more hollow than other parts, and thus the resounding boom inside the car is even louder.
