Restaurant points

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

My husband and I take an elderly relative out to lunch
every week, usually on Thursday. Today we went to a
local restaurant, kind of a greasy spoon. I planned to
use some points.

They had a special menu of "diet" foods, which of course
was mostly

Atkins,

Quoted message said:

but a couple with WW points. I ordered the roast beef wrap
with fresh fruit, 300 calories, 9 fat grams, 3 fiber
grams, and 6 points. Well,

that's

Quoted message said:

what the menu said.

There's no way that's the points for that dish. I just
calculated it

based

Quoted message said:

on best estimates for quantities, and came up with 500
calories, 25 fat grams, 3 fiber and 11 points.

That's a significant difference. How did you come up with
that high amount of fat grams? Could the wrap be a low fat
one? It might be worth asking the restaurant how they came
up with the nutritional info.

Quoted message said:

It's not a problem for me -- I planned a light breakfast
and dinner and

the

Quoted message said:

points weren't out of range. But now I'm wondering -- to
what extent can you count on the nutrition data from local
restaurants?

Also, I'm guessing that the national chains are pretty
accurate in their nutrition claims. True?

And related, I recently read that Applebee's is testing
menu items with WW points in some markets with a projected
rollout nationally later this

year.

Quoted message said:

I've never eaten at an Applebee's -- are they pretty good?

I eat at Applebees all of the time. They have a few low fat
items that are quite good: grilled chicken salad, tilipia
dish with rice, chicken stir fry. The manager of our
Applebee's said that they are rolling out the WW menus
sometime in May. I am looking forward to seeing what they
offer. There are not many good restaurants around that offer
WW point friendly meals.

Laura said:

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

My husband and I take an elderly relative out to lunch
every week, usually on Thursday. Today we went to a local
restaurant, kind of a greasy spoon. I planned to use some
points.

They had a special menu of "diet" foods, which of course
was mostly Atkins, but a couple with WW points. I ordered
the roast beef wrap with fresh fruit, 300 calories, 9 fat
grams, 3 fiber grams, and 6 points. Well, that's what the
menu said.

There's no way that's the points for that dish. I just
calculated it based on best estimates for quantities, and
came up with 500 calories, 25 fat grams, 3 fiber and 11
points.

That's a significant difference. How did you come up with
that high amount of fat grams? Could the wrap be a low fat
one? It might be worth asking the restaurant how they came
up with the nutritional info.

Quoted message said:

It's not a problem for me -- I planned a light breakfast
and dinner and the points weren't out of range. But now
I'm wondering -- to what extent can you count on the
nutrition data from local restaurants?

Also, I'm guessing that the national chains are pretty
accurate in their nutrition claims. True?

And related, I recently read that Applebee's is testing
menu items with WW points in some markets with a
projected rollout nationally later this year. I've never
eaten at an Applebee's -- are they pretty good?

I eat at Applebees all of the time. They have a few low
fat items that are quite good: grilled chicken salad,
tilipia dish with rice, chicken stir fry. The manager of
our Applebee's said that they are rolling out the WW menus
sometime in May. I am looking forward to seeing what they
offer. There are not many good restaurants around that
offer WW point friendly meals.

I have an applebees by me that offers WW meals, they have
been since January 1st. Unfortunately, listing point totals
doesn't make up for [censored] service.

---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-
virus system (grisoft.comgrisoft.comOpen ↗). Version: 6.0.656 /
Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/10/2004

I don't know if anything ... food labels, restaurants,
whatever ... is 100% accurate. I do a lot of reading, have
looked many different places for nutrional data, and come up
with several different numbers for the same item. Go figure!
LOL Guess all we can really do is use what info is given to
us and hope for the best. I figure that even *close enough*
is better than nothing at all.

As far as Applebees ... I know many here swear by this
restaurant, but it is not one of my favorites and not one
that I ever think of going to. I only end up there when
someone else makes the suggestion (and that usually is only
when we are looking for somewhere we can get in quickly). It
might just be the area that I live in, but all except two
Applebee's have now been closed (and the nearest one is over
10 miles away from my home). The two that are left are
usually empty - never a wait to be seated. I've found the
service to be pretty bad and the food only *ok* .. nothing
special when compared to all the other choices I have in my
area. I equate Applebee's to an upscale Denny's.

Joyce

Anny Middon said:

My husband and I take an elderly relative out to lunch
every week, usually on Thursday. Today we went to a
local restaurant, kind of a greasy spoon. I planned to
use some points.

They had a special menu of "diet" foods, which of course
was mostly Atkins, but a couple with WW points. I ordered
the roast beef wrap with fresh fruit, 300 calories, 9 fat
grams, 3 fiber grams, and 6 points. Well, that's what the
menu said.

There's no way that's the points for that dish. I just
calculated it based on best estimates for quantities,
and came up with 500 calories, 25 fat grams, 3 fiber and
11 points.

It's not a problem for me -- I planned a light breakfast
and dinner and the points weren't out of range. But now I'm
wondering -- to what extent can you count on the nutrition
data from local restaurants?

Also, I'm guessing that the national chains are pretty
accurate in their nutrition claims. True?

And related, I recently read that Applebee's is testing
menu items with WW points in some markets with a projected
rollout nationally later this year. I've never eaten at an
Applebee's -- are they pretty good?

Anny

"buck naked" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Laura said:

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

My husband and I take an elderly relative out to lunch
every week, usually on Thursday. Today we went to a
local restaurant, kind of a greasy spoon. I planned to
use some points.

They had a special menu of "diet" foods, which of
course was mostly Atkins, but a couple with WW points.
I ordered the roast beef wrap with fresh fruit, 300
calories, 9 fat grams, 3 fiber grams, and 6 points.
Well, that's what the menu said.

There's no way that's the points for that dish. I just
calculated it based on best estimates for quantities,
and came up with 500 calories, 25 fat grams, 3 fiber
and 11 points.

That's a significant difference. How did you come up
with that high amount of fat grams? Could the wrap be a
low fat one? It might be worth asking the restaurant how
they came up with the nutritional info.

Quoted message said:

It's not a problem for me -- I planned a light
breakfast and dinner and the points weren't out of
range. But now I'm wondering -- to what extent can you
count on the nutrition data from local restaurants?

Also, I'm guessing that the national chains are pretty
accurate in their nutrition claims. True?

And related, I recently read that Applebee's is testing
menu items with WW points in some markets with a
projected rollout nationally later this year. I've
never eaten at an Applebee's -- are they pretty good?

I eat at Applebees all of the time. They have a few low
fat items that are quite good: grilled chicken salad,
tilipia dish with rice, chicken stir fry. The manager of
our Applebee's said that they are rolling out the WW
menus sometime in May. I am looking forward to seeing
what they offer. There are not many good restaurants
around that offer WW point friendly meals.

I have an applebees by me that offers WW meals, they have
been since

January

Quoted message said:

1st. Unfortunately, listing point totals doesn't make up
for [censored] service.

They must be rolling it out in stages across the US. Sorry
about the [censored] service. Ours has always been good in that
department. Complain to management or even corporate.

I'm in Rhode Island and we've had Weight Watchers meals at
our local Applebee's since January. The portions on modest,
but the food is very good. I love the shrimp kebabs with
rice pilaf and steamed veggies. What's amazing is the price
for the tiny portions though! You'd think if the portions
were that small, the prices would be smaller, but
noooooooooooo.

"Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

There's no way that's the points for that dish. I just
calculated it

based

Quoted message said:

on best estimates for quantities, and came up with 500
calories, 25 fat grams, 3 fiber and 11 points.

That's a significant difference. How did you come up with
that high amount of fat grams? Could the wrap be a low fat
one? It might be worth asking

the

Quoted message said:

restaurant how they came up with the nutritional info.

I guesstimated it like this:

1 10-in flour tortilla - 218 cals, 5 fat grams (Fitday) I
doubt they use a low fat tortilla, since the waitress told
me that I was the first person who'd ever ordered it from
her and this is not the sort of place that stocks items that
aren't often ordered

4 oz. deli roast beef (calorieking.com) - 128 cals, 4 fat
grs

1.5 tblsp mayonnaise (Fitday) 148 cals, 10 fat grams

The lettuce and tomato I counted as 0 points. Obviously it
was the mayo that was the killer, and if it was reduced fat
mayo I want to know where they got it since it tasted
exactly like the full fat version.

I'd ask how they came up with the nutritional data, but I
don't think we'll go there again -- not due to the problem
with the data, but an unrelated hygiene issue. I'll spare
you the details.

Anny

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YLZhc.23846$um3.491045@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Quoted message said:

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

There's no way that's the points for that dish. I just
calculated it

based

Quoted message said:

on best estimates for quantities, and came up with 500
calories, 25

fat

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grams, 3 fiber and 11 points.

That's a significant difference. How did you come up
with that high

amount

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of fat grams? Could the wrap be a low fat one? It might
be worth asking

the

Quoted message said:

restaurant how they came up with the nutritional info.

I guesstimated it like this:

1 10-in flour tortilla - 218 cals, 5 fat grams (Fitday) I
doubt they use

a

Quoted message said:

low fat tortilla, since the waitress told me that I was
the first person who'd ever ordered it from her and this
is not the sort of place that

stocks

Quoted message said:

items that aren't often ordered

4 oz. deli roast beef (calorieking.com) - 128 cals,
4 fat grs

1.5 tblsp mayonnaise (Fitday) 148 cals, 10 fat grams

The lettuce and tomato I counted as 0 points. Obviously it
was the mayo that was the killer, and if it was reduced
fat mayo I want to know where they got it since it tasted
exactly like the full fat version.

I'd ask how they came up with the nutritional data, but I
don't think

we'll

Quoted message said:

go there again -- not due to the problem with the data,
but an unrelated hygiene issue. I'll spare you the
details.

Its a shame that they called it a Diet dish without using
low fat ingredients.

That sounds awful for an Applebee's. I know around here the
food is good and there is always a wait for a table. The
service, most times, is excellent. I have been in one
Applebee's in the SF Bay Area, and that one was awful and I
did complain about it and ended up getting a free meal.

Debbie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I don't know if anything ... food labels, restaurants,
whatever ... is

100%

Quoted message said:

accurate. I do a lot of reading, have looked many
different places for

nutrional

Quoted message said:

data, and come up with several different numbers for the
same item. Go

figure!

Quoted message said:

LOL Guess all we can really do is use what info is given
to us and hope

for the

Quoted message said:

best. I figure that even *close enough* is better than
nothing at all.

As far as Applebees ... I know many here swear by this
restaurant, but it

is not

Quoted message said:

one of my favorites and not one that I ever think of going
to. I only end

up

Quoted message said:

there when someone else makes the suggestion (and that
usually is only

when we are

Quoted message said:

looking for somewhere we can get in quickly). It might
just be the area

that I

Quoted message said:

live in, but all except two Applebee's have now been
closed (and the

nearest one

Quoted message said:

is over 10 miles away from my home). The two that are left
are usually

empty -

Quoted message said:

never a wait to be seated. I've found the service to be
pretty bad and

the food

Quoted message said:

only *ok* .. nothing special when compared to all the
other choices I have

in my

Quoted message said:

area. I equate Applebee's to an upscale Denny's.

Joyce

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:20:35 GMT, "Anny Middon"

<[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My husband and I take an elderly relative out to lunch
every week,

usually

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on Thursday. Today we went to a local restaurant, kind of
a greasy

spoon.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I planned to use some points.

They had a special menu of "diet" foods, which of course
was mostly

Atkins,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

but a couple with WW points. I ordered the roast beef
wrap with fresh fruit, 300 calories, 9 fat grams, 3 fiber
grams, and 6 points. Well,

that's

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

what the menu said.

There's no way that's the points for that dish. I just
calculated it

based

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on best estimates for quantities, and came up with 500
calories, 25 fat grams, 3 fiber and 11 points.

It's not a problem for me -- I planned a light breakfast
and dinner and

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

points weren't out of range. But now I'm wondering -- to
what extent can you count on the nutrition data from
local restaurants?

Also, I'm guessing that the national chains are pretty
accurate in their nutrition claims. True?

And related, I recently read that Applebee's is testing
menu items with

WW

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

points in some markets with a projected rollout
nationally later this

year.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've never eaten at an Applebee's -- are they
pretty good?

Anny

Chains have recommended guidelines for serving sizes, but it
really depends more on the person cooking your food than
anything else-or at least in places where the cook really
does the cooking and isn't just heating up the food, if that
makes sense.

Anyway, Applebee's is fair to average in my opinion. There
is always something not quite right about their food and
I'm sending things back frequently-they do try hard to
make it right.

J

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

My husband and I take an elderly relative out to lunch
every week, usually on Thursday. Today we went to a
local restaurant, kind of a greasy spoon. I planned to
use some points.

They had a special menu of "diet" foods, which of course
was mostly

Atkins,

Quoted message said:

but a couple with WW points. I ordered the roast beef wrap
with fresh fruit, 300 calories, 9 fat grams, 3 fiber
grams, and 6 points. Well,

that's

Quoted message said:

what the menu said.

There's no way that's the points for that dish. I just
calculated it

based

Quoted message said:

on best estimates for quantities, and came up with 500
calories, 25 fat grams, 3 fiber and 11 points.

It's not a problem for me -- I planned a light breakfast
and dinner and

the

Quoted message said:

points weren't out of range. But now I'm wondering -- to
what extent can you count on the nutrition data from local
restaurants?

Also, I'm guessing that the national chains are pretty
accurate in their nutrition claims. True?

And related, I recently read that Applebee's is testing
menu items with WW points in some markets with a projected
rollout nationally later this

year.

Quoted message said:

I've never eaten at an Applebee's -- are they pretty good?

Anny

I use any restaurant nutrition as a starting point. If the portion seems
too large/small or over greasy I add or subtract points. Lee
Anny Middon <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

My husband and I take an elderly relative out to lunch
every week, usually on Thursday. Today we went to a
local restaurant, kind of a greasy spoon. I planned to
use some points.

They had a special menu of "diet" foods, which of course
was mostly

Atkins,

Quoted message said:

but a couple with WW points. I ordered the roast beef wrap
with fresh fruit, 300 calories, 9 fat grams, 3 fiber
grams, and 6 points. Well,

that's

Quoted message said:

what the menu said.

There's no way that's the points for that dish. I just
calculated it

based

Quoted message said:

on best estimates for quantities, and came up with 500
calories, 25 fat grams, 3 fiber and 11 points.

It's not a problem for me -- I planned a light breakfast
and dinner and

the

Quoted message said:

points weren't out of range. But now I'm wondering -- to
what extent can you count on the nutrition data from local
restaurants?

Also, I'm guessing that the national chains are pretty
accurate in their nutrition claims. True?

And related, I recently read that Applebee's is testing
menu items with WW points in some markets with a projected
rollout nationally later this

year.

Quoted message said:

I've never eaten at an Applebee's -- are they pretty good?

Anny