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  1. ------------------------------------------------------------
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    Question: what crank length is MOST comfortable on your 700c
    (for all-around use)?

    - under 4 inches
    - 4 inches (102 mm)
    - 5 inches (127 mm)
    - 6 inches (152 mm)
    - over 6 inches
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    After riding on 4", 5", and 6" cranks today on my 700c
    road cycle, I have thusly decided that 4" cranks are too
    short, while 6" are too long, and 5" seems to be the
    perfect length.

    All you 700c riders out there, what crank length is most
    comfortable for you?

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    hopeful - revelling in the glory of 700c

    a sawzall...!? why not just use an axe. -- Jagur

    Long live the Lotus -- Mojoe
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  2. whats a 700c?

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    North

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  3. I have tried 150, 125 and 110. I prefer 125. On 110 I can go
    slightly faster but I like to keep the speed down to where I
    can run out, and for that 125's are enough. And I like the
    additional control of the 125's over the 110's.

    BTW, suggestive thread title in more than one way.

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
    --
    Clearly a system of 1/14 and 1/16 is not decimal - Mikefule
    on the English weight system

  4. 700c is 28 or 29 inch depending on the tire. 700c is just
    the rim size.

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    a sawzall...!? why not just use an axe. -- Jagur

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  5. north said:

    *whats a 700c? *

    That's the the size of your typical road bike wheel with the
    really skinny tires

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  6. Whats with all the standard stuff 5"

    I would probably say for most general riding 125's are
    ideal on a 700c wheel. Although my opinion is void becasue
    I dont own one.

    Please though stick to metric on crank lenghts and all
    arround unicycle talk. I dont need for anyone making more
    stuff with standard bolts I have a hard enough time with
    profile doing it....

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    Checkernuts - Me Fail English? That's Unpossible

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    odds stacked up against me I will have to fight, One Life One Wheel got
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  7. north said:

    *whats a 700c? *


    Annoying answer: It's four characters you can type into
    Google or similar.

    Slightly less annoying answer: Possibly the most common
    bicycle rim size in the world.

    I still need to get one so I can answer the original
    question. Since I will use mine for racing, I will probably
    go for something shorter than 125mm (5"😉. But I may also use
    it for the 24 Hours of Adrenaline, for which I will probably
    use 150mm.

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    johnfoss - Walkin' on the edge

    John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
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    "Hey, could I have some of that spinach? I need to get this pork rind
    taste out of my mouth." -- Ryan Atkins to Kris Holm, on the way back
    from Moab after sampling some of my pork rinds. They grossed out the
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  8. John, you could always...

    ***REFORGE A SCHWINN FRAME***

    like I did to make your own 700c unicycle! Cheaper, and more
    UNIque than the ho-hum store-bought versions...

    I'll have pics sometime. I don't have a digital camera
    (because I used to think that they were evil)

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    hopeful - revelling in the glory of 700c

    a sawzall...!? why not just use an axe. -- Jagur

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  9. I can't vote, you don't have 110's (4 1/2"😉

    I tried 102's with a 28 tire and found them too squirly,
    especially down hills, and when fatigued too hard to stay
    on top of.

    I switched to 125's and they felt huge. Very comfortable
    though. I also switched to a 29er tire.

    I finally got a pair of BE 110's, I took them out for an 8
    mile road ride last Sunday on a route that had a large
    variety of grades and about
    3/4 mile of gravel path. I had to be more carefull down
    hill than on the 125's but found them very good for all-
    around riding.

    They are harder to idle on than 125's.

    --
    UniBrier - Its Time to Ride

    Steve De Cuckoo

    The Roadrunner or Ground Cuckoo can run at speeds of up to 15 miles per
    hour (24 km per hour). It rarely flies and does not migrate. When it is
    in danger, it runs or crouches to hide.

    The RoadUnier or Cuckoo Cokier can ride at speeds of up to 15 miles per
    hour (24 km per hour). It rarely flies and does not migrate. When it is
    in danger it UPDs and slides.

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  10. I will vote in the coming weeks. I just ordered 127mm cranks
    for my 29er today. Someone who will be riding a 29er in the
    LBI Unithon told me he uses 110mm cranks and I'm hoping to
    work my way down so I can dream of keeping up.

    Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ

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    JJuggle - Last of the Dogmato-Revisionists

    '6th Annual LBI Unithon - Sat, June 5, 2004'
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    Because it's fun! duh.
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  11. I like 125's (5"😉 as well, I've ridden many miles with them.

    I tried 110's for a week or two and found them too short,
    had a bad fall with them and then went back to 125's. If I
    lived somewhere with a lot less hills I could be tempted to
    go shorter, but, for Sheffield, 110's are not good.

    Only had a very brief go with 150's and they felt too long-
    they're great on my muni but for the 700c I wanted the extra
    speed and small pedaling circle.

    The 700c with a fat tyre (ie 29-er) and 5" cranks is an
    awsome machine.

    --
    onewheeldave - Semi Skilled Unicyclist

    "He's also been known to indulge in a spot of flame juggling - but it's
    the Muni that really fires him up."

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  12. I use 125's on my 700c (skinny road tire, not fat 29er).
    I've never tried anything smaller, but the 125's seem to be
    enough of a challenge on some of these Virginia hills. I'd
    still like a pair of those Tour de Force carbon fiber
    adjustable cranks. Nathan Hoover's showed wear after some
    small muni drops, but my uni's made for road only anyway so
    there probably wouldn't be as much pressure on them. I think
    they adjust from 110 to 150. I'm training about 10 miles a
    day now for the MS 150 Bike Tour in June. It'd be nice if I
    could get a pair before then.

    'Here they are' (tinyurl.com259pr)

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    hell-on-wheel - My karma ran over your dogma

    On the other hand, you have different fingers. - Steven Wright
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  13. I use 125mm cranks on my 29er most of the time...i tried
    110's for a while, and really like the smooth feel, but
    never could get comfortable with them on the downhills. I
    did put a set of 140's on it for a short time, and that
    gives lots of control on easy trails and x/c, but most of my
    riding is on the roads, and the 125's seem to be just about
    right. It's mostly just a matter of personal preference and
    the terrain you'll be riding on.

    --
    Chuck Webb

    I live in my own little world but its ok...they know me here!

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  14. I use my 700c mainly for roads and flattish tracks, with
    occasional light cross country. I bought it with 110s, and
    after a brief experiment with 125s, went back to 110s.

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    So many pedestrians tell me I've lost a wheel.
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  15. Sorry about the thread title. I tried to change it with an
    edit (as you can tell by the real poll title, but the name
    just stuck.

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    hopeful - revelling in the glory of 700c

    a sawzall...!? why not just use an axe. -- Jagur

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  16. hopeful said:

    *John, you could always...

    ***REFORGE A SCHWINN FRAME****


    No thanks, Hopeful. If I wanted a heavy-ass, flexi thing
    that would be easy to arrange from parts I have laying
    around. But for racing especially, you want a rigid frame
    that responds to all input (or lack thereof) into the seat
    and pedals. A cheap and boring Yuni frame (or similar) will
    weigh a lot less than the Schwinn equivalent (before
    lengthening), and perform quite a bit better.

    But I don't know what size cranks yet...

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    johnfoss - Walkin' on the edge

    John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
    "jfoss" at "unicycling.com"
    www.unicycling.com

    "Hey, could I have some of that spinach? I need to get this pork rind
    taste out of my mouth." -- Ryan Atkins to Kris Holm, on the way back
    from Moab after sampling some of my pork rinds. They grossed out the
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  17. hm. as i've never known anyone with a yuni frame, i've never
    gotten to try it. i think my entire schwinn setup (from seat
    to wheel weighs 14 pounds.)

    agreed, i'm not marvelling in it's lightness, but the
    rotational mass is much less now that i've built a new wheel
    with a sun alloy double-wall rim instead of the old raleigh
    england 700c steel rim i was using.

    so perhaps I am looking to get schooled at UNICON this year
    by racers that have lighter, newer frames, but I am just
    happy to be riding a 700c that i designed and built with my
    own 2 hands.

    perhaps I will get laughed at and mocked for it's 2.5 tone
    black and white paintjob, and for the fact that it's not
    the *hottest ride out there* but that's not what it's
    about for me.

    For me, unicycling is a religion. Unicycling, as one of my
    friends put it so well is "finding that magic balance that
    makes flying possible, or at least falling less probable"
    and maybe I'm not a world-class rider. maybe i don't deserve
    to go to UNICON, but someone has to come in last, and if
    it's me, then I'm just happy that nobody else had to do it.

    But I'll sure as heck be the only 700c racer from Charlotte,
    NC that trains on the city streets by racing the bike
    messengers while dodging pedestrians, hot dog vendors,
    skateboarders, dogs, and almost getting hit by cars while
    wearing my cycling shorts, helmet, and bike shoes on
    my...

    self-designed reforged handbuilt 1976 schwinn frame with a
    wheel i built myself and 5" cranks ending with toeclipped
    pedals and straps

    btw, i don't find it flexy at all.

    (I'm not ranting at you, John, I'm just ranting because I'm
    still trying to get over circus school auditions... Not only
    did I go there and get totally amazed by the other
    applicants and current students , but I also took that
    opportunity to make a fool out of myself for thinking that I
    might even have a chance to go to that school. ever. heh.
    not after seeing people do standing back layouts for part of
    their auditions.)

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    a sawzall...!? why not just use an axe. -- Jagur

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  18. Don't worry it'll grow.

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    Dylan Wallinger - MUni Wallbanger
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  19. hopeful said:

    *so perhaps I am looking to get schooled at UNICON this
    year by racers that have lighter, newer frames, but I am
    just happy to be riding a 700c that i designed and built
    with my own 2 hands.*


    Building your own is a great learning experience. I built my
    own first dedicated MUni from a Schwinn frame, but I didn't
    lengthen it, which caused the tire to rub whenever you
    pedaled hard. This taught me what to look for and what to
    avoid in future designs.

    When it comes to racing, it really doesn't matter what
    you're on. It's the "engine" that separates the fast from
    the slow, and the equipment is a very minor factor. I've
    been on a custom, lightweight, purpose-built track machine
    and been beaten by a double-spoked Schwinn with a very heavy
    wheel. It's all in the engine.

    Quoted message said:

    *...maybe I'm not a world-class rider. maybe i don't
    deserve to go to UNICON, but someone has to come in last,
    and if it's me, then I'm just happy that nobody else had
    to do it.*


    UNICON is for everyone. The CON means convention and the
    competitions are only supposed to be part of it. All are
    welcome. I look forward to meeting a rider from Charlotte,
    the "other" city I had to choose from when moving out to
    Sacramento.

    I'm still waiting for my own 29er to arrive. Probably barely
    in time to set it up before driving down to Laguna Seca.
    I'll have to figure out optimum crank length on my practice
    riding of the course! I think I'll start with 140s, but
    seeing the course will help.

    Yesterday I went on a 10 mile Coker ride with 170s. It was
    great on the flats and downhills (shorter cranks are scary
    on the downhills), but it still sucked on the uphills. But
    maybe that's just the nature of uphills? If I'm used to
    riding up the same hill with 170s on a 26" MUni, of course
    it's going to feel hard. But the speed is much higher on the
    easier sections...

    --
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    John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
    "jfoss" at "unicycling.com"
    www.unicycling.com

    "We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not
    because they are easy, but because they are hard." -- John F. Kennedy,
    1961
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  20. UniBrier said:

    *I can't vote, you don't have 110's (4 1/2"😉

    *

    I believe 110s are 4.33".

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