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  1. Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold! Looks
    like the element's gone after some fiddling around (the
    metal on it's all messed up at one point where it looks like
    the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).

    My question is this - what the hell can I do with 600g of
    lovely beef rib that should be roasted? The thought of
    boiling it horrifies me, but it may be my only option if I
    don't want to just chuck it out. Shops won't be open till
    Tuesday and the part will no doubt have to be ordered.

    Help .... please ...!

    a

  2. in article [email hidden], al at
    [email hidden] wrote on 4/11/04 12:51 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold! Looks
    like the element's gone after some fiddling around (the
    metal on it's all messed up at one point where it looks
    like the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).

    My question is this - what the hell can I do with 600g of
    lovely beef rib that should be roasted? The thought of
    boiling it horrifies me, but it may be my only option if I
    don't want to just chuck it out. Shops won't be open till
    Tuesday and the part will no doubt have to be ordered.

    Help .... please ...!

    a

    Do you have a gas grill or even a charcoal grill? You could
    roast it over indirect heat on that. Put coals on one side
    of the bottom, or use just one heating element. Put the beef
    on the other side.

    If you don't have a grill, perhaps a neighbor would let you
    use their oven?

    Do you have a toaster oven or countertop broiler? Does your
    oven have a broiling element?

    Perhaps you could slice it into rib steaks and broil them,
    either under the broiler element, in the toaster oven or
    the grill!

  3. al said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold! Looks
    like the element's gone after some fiddling around (the
    metal on it's all messed up at one point where it looks
    like the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).

    My question is this - what the hell can I do with 600g of
    lovely beef rib that should be roasted? The thought of
    boiling it horrifies me, but it may be my only option if I
    don't want to just chuck it out. Shops won't be open till
    Tuesday and the part will no doubt have to be ordered.

    Help .... please ...!

    a


    Sorry this happened to you on such an important day. If you
    have a large pot, try "roasting" the meat on top of the
    stove. You will have to put some kind of liquid on the
    bottom of the pot and watch it carefully, but it should
    cook. The worst that can happen is, that it will be more
    like a pot roast than I rib roast, but it should be
    delicious, nevertheless.

    You can put in the potatoes and carrots and celery towards
    the end, which will make for a beautiful presentation.

    Good luck, I hope you will be able to do something with
    your roast.

    Happy Easter, MS

  4. Sheryl Rosen said:

    in article _Heec.62637$Id.25448@news-
    binary.blueyonder.co.uk, al at [email hidden]
    wrote on 4/11/04 12:51 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold!
    Looks like the element's gone after some fiddling around
    (the metal on it's all messed up at one point where it
    looks like the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps you could slice it into rib steaks and broil them,
    either under the broiler element, in the toaster oven or
    the grill!

    I was thinking steaks also, pan fried if there is no
    other option.

    Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  5. "Sheryl Rosen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:BC9EFCF2.4AFDF%

    Quoted message said:


    Do you have a gas grill or even a charcoal grill? You
    could roast it over indirect heat on that. Put coals on
    one side of the bottom, or use just one heating element.
    Put the beef on the other side.

    If you don't have a grill, perhaps a neighbor would let
    you use their


    oven?

    Quoted message said:

    Both sets of neighbours gone off to family for dinner :o((

    a

  6. al said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold! Looks
    like the element's gone after some fiddling around (the
    metal on it's all messed up at one point where it looks
    like the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).

    Got a grill?!

  7. "Sheryl Rosen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:BC9EFCF2.4AFDF%

    Quoted message said:

    Do you have a gas grill or even a charcoal grill? You
    could roast it over indirect heat on that.

    I've got a grill, which is temperature controlled (albeit
    with no fan) so I'm going to try 1h 15m with it at 160
    degrees and some foil on top to stop it scorching when the
    element comes on ...

    Wish me luck!!

    a

  8. Margaret Suran said:
    al said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold!
    Looks like the element's gone after some fiddling around
    (the metal on it's all messed up at one point where it
    looks like the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).

    My question is this - what the hell can I do with 600g of
    lovely beef rib that should be roasted? The thought of
    boiling it horrifies me, but it may be my only option if
    I don't want to just chuck it out. Shops won't be open
    till Tuesday and the part will no doubt have to be
    ordered.

    Help .... please ...!

    a


    Sorry this happened to you on such an important day. If
    you have a large pot, try "roasting" the meat on top of
    the stove. You will have to put some kind of liquid on the
    bottom of the pot and watch it carefully, but it should
    cook. The worst that can happen is, that it will be more
    like a pot roast than I rib roast, but it should be
    delicious, nevertheless.

    You can put in the potatoes and carrots and celery towards
    the end, which will make for a beautiful presentation.

    Good luck, I hope you will be able to do something with
    your roast.

    Happy Easter, MS

    Agreeing with Margaret, if grilling scares you you can
    braise the beef roast. Do not BOIL. Just add a little
    liquid; I'd suggest a nice red wine and some beef broth. You
    should probably brown the beef in a little oil first after
    patting with salt & pepper and add some onion and garlic to
    the oil (or stud the beef with garlic slivers). The add
    liquid and braise it. Add veggies at the end of cooking, say
    the last 30-45 minutes.

    Good luck and Happy Easter!

    Jill

  9. al said:

    I've got a grill, which is temperature controlled (albeit
    with no fan) so I'm going to try 1h 15m with it at 160
    degrees and some foil on top to stop it scorching when the
    element comes on ...

    Wish me luck!!

    a

    Good Luck, Al. Grills are great. I am certain the roast will
    come out just as if your oven had not broken down. Your
    guests will praise your cooking and you won't even have to
    tell them of your mishap.

    MS

  10. "al" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bVfec.63091$Id.23425@news-
    binary.blueyonder.co.uk:

    Quoted message said:

    "Sheryl Rosen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:BC9EFCF2.4AFDF%

    Quoted message said:


    Do you have a gas grill or even a charcoal grill? You
    could roast it over indirect heat on that. Put coals on
    one side of the bottom, or use just one heating element.
    Put the beef on the other side.

    If you don't have a grill, perhaps a neighbor would let
    you use their


    oven?

    Quoted message said:

    Both sets of neighbours gone off to family for dinner :o((

    a

    A slow cooker/crock Pot?

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on
    nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

  11. "al" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    nice rib of beef we got for Easter dinner. Opened the door
    and the oven


    was

    Quoted message said:

    stone cold! Looks like the element's gone after some
    fiddling around (the metal on it's all messed up at one
    point where it looks like the fan's hit off it and shorted
    it somehow).

    My question is this - what the hell can I do with 600g of
    lovely beef rib that should be roasted? The thought of
    boiling it horrifies me, but it


    may

    Quoted message said:

    be my only option if I don't want to just chuck it out.
    Shops won't be


    open

    Quoted message said:

    till Tuesday and the part will no doubt have to be
    ordered.

    Help .... please ...!

    Do you have a Dutch oven (preferably cast iron and a
    vegetable steamer?

    Place the steamer in the bottom place the roast on top of
    the steamer - over and roast. Use an oven thermometer to
    test the temperature inside.

    Dimitri

  12. "Margaret Suran" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message

    Quoted message said:


    Good Luck, Al. Grills are great. I am certain the roast
    will come out just as if your oven had not broken down.
    Your guests will praise your cooking and you won't even
    have to tell them of your mishap.

    Thanks for all the wonderful suggestions ... wished I'd
    waited now, that one with the red wine sounded good 😉

    Grilled it anyway in a closed oven and after 1h 30m it
    seemed cooked but in fact was still quite rare. Had to serve
    then anyway as everything else would have been ruined. I
    quite liked it as I like my beef too "moo" mildly on the
    plate, but unfortunately my wife could only stomach about
    half of hers 🙁

    Oh ... and roast potatoes don't do too well under a grill,
    even though pre-boiled!

    a

  13. al said:

    "Margaret Suran" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message

    Quoted message said:


    Good Luck, Al. Grills are great. I am certain the roast
    will come out just as if your oven had not broken down.


    Thanks for all the wonderful suggestions ... wished I'd
    waited now, that one with the red wine sounded good 😉

    Grilled it anyway in a closed oven and after 1h 30m it
    seemed cooked but in fact was still quite rare. Had to
    serve then anyway as everything else would have been
    ruined. I quite liked it as I like my beef too "moo"
    mildly on the plate, but unfortunately my wife could only
    stomach about half of hers 🙁

    Oh ... and roast potatoes don't do too well under a grill,
    even though pre-boiled!

    a

    Al, probably should have done the roast (don't know what
    weight it was) about 2 hours.

    Potatoes are great on a grill, but you have to allow time
    for them and poke them with a fork to see if they are
    tender. No par-boiling required. Next time, cut baking
    potatoes into quarters or thick slices, brush them with some
    olive oil seasoned with salt and pepper. Grill indirectly
    for at least an hour, turning occasionally and brushing them
    occasionally with the oil mixture.

    You can also do corn on the cob this way. But for corn I
    recommend soaking the corn in cold water for an hour. Then
    peel back the husk but leave it intact at the base. Remove
    the cornsilk, brush the kernels with olive oil and then lay
    stalks of fresh herbs along the kernels. Basil, marjoram,
    thyme. Wrap the husks back around the corn. Grill, turning
    frequently to prevent burning, about 1 hour. The husks will
    turn brown/black.

    Jill

  14. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:B4hec.11958

    Quoted message said:


    Al, probably should have done the roast (don't know what
    weight it was) about 2 hours.

    It was 550g, so would have just roast for 1h 15m. Didn't
    think I'd have to change much as the temperature should be
    the same in the oven with the thermostat, but obviously
    (now!) the fan effect and constant heat of roasting is
    somewhat different to the on/off direct heat of a grill!

    Quoted message said:


    Potatoes are great on a grill, but you have to allow time
    for them and


    poke

    Quoted message said:

    them with a fork to see if they are tender. No par-boiling
    required.


    Next

    Quoted message said:

    time, cut baking potatoes into quarters or thick slices,
    brush them with some olive oil seasoned with salt and
    pepper. Grill indirectly for at


    least

    Quoted message said:

    an hour, turning occasionally and brushing them
    occasionally with the oil mixture.

    That sounds nice ... stop, you're making me hungry again 😉

    a

  15. check that the "manual button" beside the clock is pushed
    in... look for a burned out fuse.

    try bbq or a neighbors oven.

    take care Liz

    Hey! Look what "al" <[email hidden]> wrote :

    Quoted message said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold! Looks
    like the element's gone after some fiddling around (the
    metal on it's all messed up at one point where it looks
    like the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).

    My question is this - what the hell can I do with 600g of
    lovely beef rib that should be roasted? The thought of
    boiling it horrifies me, but it may be my only option if I
    don't want to just chuck it out. Shops won't be open till
    Tuesday and the part will no doubt have to be ordered.

    Help .... please ...!

    a

  16. "al" <[email hidden]> tap, tap, tapped out in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold! Looks
    like the element's gone after some fiddling around (the
    metal on it's all messed up at one point where it looks
    like the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).

    My question is this - what the hell can I do with 600g of
    lovely beef rib that should be roasted? The thought of
    boiling it horrifies me, but it may be my only option if I
    don't want to just chuck it out. Shops won't be open till
    Tuesday and the part will no doubt have to be ordered.

    Help .... please ...!

    a

    Gawd! Maybe one of your neighbors will let you use their
    oven. The BBQ grill maybe. I've never put a rib roast on the
    grill but I don't see why you couldn't.

    Michael
    --
    Deathbed statement...

    "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
    December 12, 1968

  17. Quoted message said:
    al said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold!
    Looks like the element's gone after some fiddling around
    (the metal on it's all messed up at one point where it
    looks like the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).

    My question is this - what the hell can I do with 600g of
    lovely beef rib that should be roasted?

    Huh? Roasting is not an option... 600g = 1.322 pounds...
    that's not a rib roast, that's an average sized rib steak...
    get a pan hot, and send all your guests home.

    Chances are your oven realized what you were about to do to
    that lovely steak and it had a stroke.

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED
    NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be
    devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

  18. "PENMART01" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Huh? Roasting is not an option... 600g = 1.322 pounds...
    that's not a rib roast, that's an average sized rib
    steak... get a pan hot, and send all


    your

    Quoted message said:

    guests home.

    Chances are your oven realized what you were about to do
    to that lovely


    steak

    Quoted message said:

    and it had a stroke.

    Actually it's about as much as two people can eat and
    normally tastes fantastic roast 😉

    I grilled it in the end and it was ok, but a bit underdone
    for my wife. Thinking about it I could have sliced it in two
    when raw and cooked as two nice thick steaks on the pan as
    you suggest!

    a

  19. al said:

    Grilled it anyway in a closed oven and after 1h 30m it
    seemed cooked but in fact was still quite rare. Had to
    serve then anyway as everything else would have been
    ruined. I quite liked it as I like my beef too "moo" mildly
    on the plate, but unfortunately my wife could only stomach
    about half of hers 🙁

    What you're calling grilled we call broiled - using the top
    element of the oven.

    You could have swapped the elements.

    -sw

  20. "Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:_didnVfFyY9oJuTdRVn-

    Quoted message said:


    What you're calling grilled we call broiled - using the
    top element of the oven.

    You could have swapped the elements.

    Nah, the elements are completely different. One is a round
    double element that fits around the fan at the back of the
    oven. The other, the grill, is ... well ... grill shaped!!
    And takes up all of the top.

    No idea what you mean by broiled ...

    a

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