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  1. al said:


    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:B4hec.11958

    Quoted message said:


    Al, probably should have done the roast (don't know what
    weight it was) about 2 hours.

    It was 550g, so would have just roast for 1h 15m. Didn't
    think I'd have to change much as the temperature should be
    the same in the oven with the thermostat, but obviously
    (now!) the fan effect and constant heat of roasting is
    somewhat different to the on/off direct heat of a grill!

    Quoted message said:

    Note that the OP is referring to a broiler when he says
    grill, not our north American BBQ grill. It's another one of
    those instances when we only THINK we are speaking the same
    language....

    gloria p

  2. "Puester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Note that the OP is referring to a broiler when he says
    grill, not our north American BBQ grill. It's another one
    of those instances when we only THINK we are speaking the
    same language....

    You've both lost me!! But no, I'm certainly not American if
    that helps! Over here a grill is an element that occupies
    all of the top of an oven (or separate grill if that is the
    case). It's used for grilling ....

    a

  3. al said:

    "Puester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Note that the OP is referring to a broiler when he says
    grill, not our north American BBQ grill. It's another one
    of those instances when we only THINK we are speaking the
    same language....

    You've both lost me!! But no, I'm certainly not American
    if that helps! Over here a grill is an element that
    occupies all of the top of an oven (or separate grill if
    that is the case). It's used for grilling ....

    a

    Here, that's a broiler. A grill is either a flat metal
    surface, heated from below, or a grate heated with a wood or
    charcoal fire (preferably) or gas (less preferable).

    BOB barbecue is a process, or the end product of that
    process, not the "grate" mentioned above

  4. " BOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    -"]news:[email hidden]-

    Quoted message said:

    Here, that's a broiler. A grill is either a flat metal
    surface, heated


    from

    Quoted message said:

    below, or a grate heated with a wood or charcoal fire
    (preferably) or gas


    (less

    Quoted message said:

    preferable).

    Ahhh ... like in a US burger joint, I see!! I suppose you
    could call that a grill - not sure what we'd call it here -
    a hotplate I think. The only "underneath" grill I know of is
    a BBQ. A broiler isn't a word I'm familiar with - sounds
    like something involving liquid, ie. some sort of boiling
    type thing.

    But by whichever word, my oven can cook with a fan
    surrounded by an element (bake) or from above by direct heat
    from a large element covering the area of the roof of the
    oven (grill). Thankfully, with a closed door, the grill
    obeys the thermostat and keeps a temperature up in the oven.
    Unfortunately not nearly as well as the fan oven bit can!

    a

  5. in article [email hidden], hahabogus at
    [email hidden] wrote on 4/11/04 3:02 PM:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    If you don't have a grill, perhaps a neighbor would let
    you use their


    oven?

    Quoted message said:

    Both sets of neighbours gone off to family for
    dinner :o((

    a

    A slow cooker/crock Pot?

    Oh, goodness no!!! Not for rib roast! That would be a waste.
    Braising rib roast would be sacrilege. Rib roast requires
    dry heat. It's too tender to be braised.

  6. al said:

    "Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:_didnVfFyY9oJuTdRVn-

    Quoted message said:


    What you're calling grilled we call broiled - using the
    top element of the oven.

    You could have swapped the elements.

    Nah, the elements are completely different. One is a round
    double element that fits around the fan at the back of the
    oven. The other, the grill, is ... well ... grill shaped!!
    And takes up all of the top.

    No idea what you mean by broiled ...

    No idea what kind of oven you have then. The top element of
    an electric oven is called the broiler/broiling element.

    A grill is something completely different. I've never heard
    of a grill *in* an oven. Is this a UK thing?

    -sw

    -sw

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, Dog3

    dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

    "al" <[email hidden]> tap, tap, tapped out in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Need some ideas - just put the oven on and 20 mins later
    went to put in the nice rib of beef we got for Easter
    dinner. Opened the door and the oven was stone cold!
    Looks like the element's gone after some fiddling around
    (the metal on it's all messed up at one point where it
    looks like the fan's hit off it and shorted it somehow).

    My question is this - what the hell can I do with 600g
    of lovely beef rib that should be roasted? The thought
    of boiling it horrifies me, but it may be my only option
    if I don't want to just chuck it out. Shops won't be
    open till Tuesday and the part will no doubt have to be
    ordered.

    Help .... please ...!

    Quoted message said:


    Gawd! Maybe one of your neighbors will let you use their
    oven. The BBQ grill maybe. I've never put a rib roast on
    the grill but I don't see why you couldn't.

    Michael

    My late BIL used to do killer rolled rib roasts on the spit.
    Awesome stuff! Why couldn't you stick it in a closed grill
    and 'roast' it -- in a pan, even.
    --
    -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 3-29-04.

  8. Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> wrote in news:barbschaller-
    [email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    My late BIL used to do killer rolled rib roasts on the
    spit. Awesome stuff! Why couldn't you stick it in a closed
    grill and 'roast' it -- in a pan, even.
    --
    -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 3-29-04.

    the OP was british...I'm thinking grill...like the North
    American equivalent to broil.

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on
    nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

  9. "hahabogus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    the OP was british...I'm thinking grill...like the North
    American equivalent to broil.

    Irish actually ... but close 😉

    a

  10. "Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message

    Quoted message said:

    A grill is something completely different. I've never
    heard of a grill *in* an oven. Is this a UK thing?

    Apparently ... likewise I'd never heard of a broiler ....

    a

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