PeeON.

Didn't Mattis have about 280-320W last year according to
some SRM graph that got posted? Now he's at what - 377-399W
and Horner is 450-480??? Crikey.

Rik Van Diesel said:

First you have to read the greatest non-fictional writer
of our century, Mattis, then once you cannot take it any
longer. …Read the Saunders' Aritcle.

Everyone has a story from Redlands.

Mattis bike.comtemplate.aspOpen ↗
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Rik Van Diesel wrote in message

Quoted message said:

First you have to read the greatest non-fictional writer
of our century, Mattis.

Thanks Rik - The Mattis pee-drinking story is the funniest
thing I've read this year. In Mattis' honor I wanted to
bring back my personal favorite from him last season. Here,
he recounts his exploits in the last stage of the Elkhorn
Stage Race last year. Here's the setup:

"Heading into the left hand turn to start the climb, I asked
Jeff "are you ready to see some fireworks?" He shrugged his
shoulders. At the base of the climb I kept it in my big ring
while everyone shifted to their little rings - and powered
up the climb and away from the group.

And the money-shot:

"Doug Ollerenshaw was the only rider able to accelerate onto
my wheel as the rest of the pack watched in shock and awe at
the speed and power of my acceleration."

Stewart Fleming said:

Didn't Mattis have about 280-320W last year according to
some SRM graph that got posted? Now he's at what - 377-
399W and Horner is 450-480??? Crikey.

He made some changes to his diet.

Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

is this watts at threshold or something?... if it is then
that kind of of improvement is easy to achieve through
training... he has gone from not so good a level to a normal
level for a pro biker... he has improved a lot since he
started to race nationaly... having horner on your team will
give you a big reason to push hard and make big efforts in
training.. much more than if you rode for the webcor team
from last year... if i was on the same team with old chris,
then i would have to be 450-480 just so i could be there to
help in the end!... i think that you will notice that quite
a few of the guys from last year's team will be a step up
this year... in part because they have spent the entire
month of march on the front going hard near AT whereas last
year they were anonymous... if you go to a race and sit on
all day you would probably have been better off staying at
home and training hard...

Bob Schwartz said:

Stewart Fleming said:

Didn't Mattis have about 280-320W last year according to
some SRM graph that got posted? Now he's at what - 377-
399W and Horner is 450-480??? Crikey.

He made some changes to his diet.

Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

He made some changes to his diet.

honey on his Cheerios, perhaps? 😄

[email hidden] (Vance Legweak) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Rik Van Diesel wrote in message

Quoted message said:

First you have to read the greatest non-fictional writer
of our century, Mattis.

Thanks Rik - The Mattis pee-drinking story is the funniest
thing I've read this year. In Mattis' honor I wanted to
bring back my personal favorite from him last season.
Here, he recounts his exploits in the last stage of the
Elkhorn Stage Race last year. Here's the setup:

"Heading into the left hand turn to start the climb, I
asked Jeff "are you ready to see some fireworks?" He
shrugged his shoulders. At the base of the climb I kept it
in my big ring while everyone shifted to their little
rings - and powered up the climb and away from the group.

And the money-shot:

"Doug Ollerenshaw was the only rider able to accelerate
onto my wheel as the rest of the pack watched in shock and
awe at the speed and power of my acceleration."

That is classic. Too bad Johan didn't see that first hand -
or else he might be taking Heras's spot in the tour. Image
Jan, Beloki, and company watching in shock and awe as he
drops the hammer...amazing.

erik saunders said:

is this watts at threshold or something?... if it is then
that kind of of improvement is easy to achieve through
training... he has gone from not so good a level to a
normal level for a pro biker... he has improved a lot
since he started to race nationaly... having horner on
your team

Watts at threhold, yes (with a bit of guesswork on my part
- I know that rider X in the US peloton is at 420-450 and
rider Y is at 520 on occasions). I know it wasn't quite
fair to compare - I noted after re-reading the report that
he was talking about the Mt Rubidoux TT and the SRM graph
that was published I went back and looked at and it was
from SFGP in 2002.

Slight disagreement with your characterisation - it's never
_easy_ to make those sort of improvements in training...it's
_possible_ but it's _hard work_ :-)

It's interesting to keep track of...back when I was racing
seriously (early 90s), 390-400W was the entry-level power at
threshold for a European neo-pro.

Quoted message said:

were anonymous... if you go to a race and sit on all day
you would probably have been better off staying at home
and training hard...

Amen to that.

On 7 Apr 2004 20:50:55 -0700, [email hidden] (Vance Legweak)

Quoted message said:

"Doug Ollerenshaw was the only rider able to accelerate
onto my wheel as the rest of the pack watched in shock and
awe at the speed and power of my acceleration."

I don't think this had "and awe" in it when originally sent
out. It's embellised above.

JT

[email hidden] (Rik Van Diesel) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

First you have to read the greatest non-fictional writer
of our century, Mattis, then once you cannot take it any
longer. ?Read the Saunders' Aritcle.

Everyone has a story from Redlands.

Mattis bike.comtemplate.aspOpen ↗
&page=2&lsectionnumber=3&lsectionname=Peloton+Stories&lse-
ctiondirectory=franke

Saunders eriksaunders.comlegends.MattisPee.htmOpen ↗

Hilarious! All I can say is this: James, don't quit your day
job. And Erik, perhaps when you finally give up the 12k
dream, you should send your resume to the Comedy Channel.
That, or apply to be DK's body guard and keep the peace.

uh.. yeah.. i have officially passed the 12k dream level...
last year, thank you...

watch out because i am going to race masters for
LABOR!..."LABOR!"...

i am intereseted to see some power files from US pro.. where
do i go?... and i am going to race georgia with my ergomo
and put the files up on my website...

Dude, stick to stories of drinking [censored], "what can BROWN do
for you", and fat gym coaches... These serious posts just
aren't your style.

Quoted message said:

is this watts at threshold or something?... if it is then
that kind of of improvement is easy to achieve through
training... he has gone from not so good a level to a
normal level for a pro biker... he has improved a lot
since he started to race nationaly... having horner on
your team will give you a big reason to push hard and make
big efforts in training.. much more than if you rode for
the webcor team from last year... if i was on the same
team with old chris, then i would have to be 450-480 just
so i could be there to help in the end!... i think that
you will notice that quite a few of the guys from last
year's team will be a step up this year... in part because
they have spent the entire month of march on the front
going hard near AT whereas last year they were
anonymous... if you go to a race and sit on all day you
would probably have been better off staying at home and
training hard...

Quoted message said:

watch out because i am going to race masters for
LABOR!..."LABOR!"...

That's more like it...

[email hidden] (erik saunders) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

uh.. yeah.. i have officially passed the 12k dream
level... last year, thank you...

Ooops. Sorry about that; I meant no disrespect...

Quoted message said:

watch out because i am going to race masters for
LABOR!..."LABOR!"...

That would be the best thing for Masters racing since $3k
carbon frames and $3 low-carb apple fritters. I won't hold
my breath waiting though.

Quoted message said:

i am intereseted to see some power files from US pro..
where do i go?... and i am going to race georgia with my
ergomo and put the files up on my website...

If you haven't done so already, subscribe to the wattage
email list at:

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because there's lots of smart people and lots of power files
flying around there. I think they would really like to see
your Georgia power files. Also, maybe you know this already,
but I saw the following there...

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