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  1. Hey everyone, as I not so much -enjoy- ruining things
    immediately after owning them, but have become quite
    successful at it, I have a few q's that search results have
    brought up a wide arrange of opionions.

    Perhaps answers here will be more up to date, and posters
    will have changed their thoughts or techniques.

    1) The crank bolts. These are only lubed up with
    antiseize...no red locktite is needed in here?

    2) The crank bolts. Any specified amount of torque to
    tighten these up to?

    3) Crank removal. Is a bearing puller the only option for
    the removal of brand new cranks?

    4) The whole keyway/axle hoopla. Does an average user need
    to know anything about this? Assuming the only user
    maintenance would be the removal/installation of
    cranks...is this something that only needs to be checked
    on if something doesn't feel right? (what are some signs
    and remedies?)

    5) Is there a reason why antiseize is preferred over grease?
    MY hands are stained grey...and that was only by picking
    up the wheel and playing with it as I was stopped at each
    intersection since Darren came through town.

    6) That's it for now. Any other 'should knows'?

    --
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  2. 1. No Locktite is needed.

    2. Don't use a hex on a breaker bar or ratchet. Just tighten
    them very snug with a hex key. If you tighten them to
    much the washer will break (trust me I know 😠 )

    3. I have one set that I can remove without tools but the
    bearing puller is the way to go. In my experience, they
    come right off and don't ruin the bearing either.

    4. One of my hubs developed a loose axle/ keyway slop. I
    sent them to Profile and they fixed it for free. I kinda
    think I may have contributed to the problem or even
    caused it by torquing down to hard during installation
    with the Profile installation tool. The final bolt
    tightening process will get them on tight enough don't
    reef down to much with the install tool.

    5. The copper anti-seize washes right off. I only use anti-
    seize as that is what Profile recommends.

    6. Just check the bolts now and then.

    - Frank

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    "Man's maturity: to have regained the seriousness that he had as a child
    at play." - FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE, Beyond Good and Evil

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  3. Quoted message said:

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    1) The crank bolts. These are only lubed up with
    antiseize...no red locktite is needed in here? *


    I personally use blue loctite on the bolt threads.

    Quoted message said:

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    2) The crank bolts. Any specified amount of torque to
    tighten these up to? *


    On the Profile trials and splined KH24s I've worked on,
    there comes a specific point when the crank bolt gets much
    harder to turn. I figure at that point the bolt is in all
    the way and nothing more needs to be done. This tightening
    is different than on a square taper, where that doesn't
    happen and it is hard to tell when to stop, especially with
    a long-handled wrench. So I use a torque wrench for square
    taper, but not for the splined. If your spacers are
    improperly chosen, then this could lead to problems, so it's
    important to have the proper spacers.

    Quoted message said:

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    3) Crank removal. Is a bearing puller the only option for
    the removal of brand new cranks? *


    I was trying to design a puller for my Profile cranks
    because of all the stories I'd heard but when I tried out
    the bearing puller (on the bearings), everything pulled off
    nicely and easily. This was partly because I installed
    everything carefully with plenty of anti-seize from the very
    beginning, and perhaps partly because of lucky manufacturing
    tolerances. However, I hold the opinion that most of the
    horror stories are because of improperly lubed installation,
    and/or neglect. Every once in a while pull the whole thing
    apart, clean it up, and re-anti-seize. Keep that happy
    feeling going.

    Quoted message said:

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    4) The whole keyway/axle hoopla. Does an average user need
    to know anything about this? Assuming the only user
    maintenance would be the removal/installation of
    cranks...is this something that only needs to be
    checked on if something doesn't feel right? (what are
    some signs and remedies?) *

    So far I haven't had to do anything about the keyway and my
    Profile doesn't squeak or make any noise at all.

    Quoted message said:

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    5) Is there a reason why antiseize is preferred over
    grease? MY hands are stained grey...and that was only
    by picking up the wheel and playing with it as I was
    stopped at each intersection since Darren came through
    town. *

    It pays to be very careful with the anti-seize because it is
    truly pernicious. It seems to stay in place better than the
    grease. Copper anti-seize is not necessary; the only
    difference is the highest temperature it will handle. Unless
    you are using a titanium axle I'm not sure that anti-seize
    is strictly necessary. If you keep a few paper towels handy
    and keep cleaning as you go it seems to spread a lot less.

    Quoted message said:

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    6) That's it for now. Any other 'should knows'? *


    Coat the outside of the crank bolts with grease because they
    rust easily. Again, take the time at reasonable intervals
    considering your ride type and frequency to pull it all
    apart and clean and relube.

    Thanks to John Childs for all his posts on this subject.

    --
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