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Muniracer · 2004-04-02T11:55:28+00:00

now that i have a trials unicycle i have started trying some bigger drops. mostly i have been cearing stairs, since its an excuse to land to flat. "friends dont let friends land to flat." so after doing some 6 sets for a while without problems i landed one pretty badly and felt it both in my ankles and between my legs. dont worry, nothing serious. i roll out of my hops but im not exactly sure that i am doing it right. it feels like i am absorbing the blow pretty well but there is still a big thud as i hit and the split second before i roll out. is this right? should there be a thud? should the roll out occur immediately or after the split second i mentioned? and i do mean split second. anyway, i got some good looks, especially on the higher 6 sets and the wider 5 sets. ;-) -- muniracer - Hell On Wheel The Hell on Wheel Unicycle Gang owns you!! http://www.unicyclist.com/gallery/albuq25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ muniracer's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4339 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/29906

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Muniracer
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2 April 2004, 11:55 UTC #1

now that i have a trials unicycle i have started trying some
bigger drops. mostly i have been cearing stairs, since its
an excuse to land to flat. "friends dont let friends land to
flat." so after doing some 6 sets for a while without
problems i landed one pretty badly and felt it both in my
ankles and between my legs. dont worry, nothing serious. i
roll out of my hops but im not exactly sure that i am doing
it right. it feels like i am absorbing the blow pretty well
but there is still a big thud as i hit and the split second
before i roll out. is this right? should there be a thud?
should the roll out occur immediately or after the split
second i mentioned? and i do mean split second. anyway, i
got some good looks, especially on the higher 6 sets and the
wider 5 sets.
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Muniracer
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2 April 2004, 11:55 UTC #2

come on, you punks! im just woriried about a)popping a tire
b) bending my new cranks c) putting a flat spot on my rim.
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Fluffinator007
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2 April 2004, 11:56 UTC #3

I used to get the thud. I worried a ton about it. I figure
it just the metal of my rim contacting my tire/the ground. I
didn't view this as healthy so i put some more air pressure
in my tire. I havent had a thud in awhile unless its a hard
hard landing which can happen.
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Joona
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2 April 2004, 11:57 UTC #4

If the thud comes from your unicycle, put some air in the
tire. Otherwise you can ruin your tire and the rim.
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Rayden
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2 April 2004, 11:57 UTC #5

What is this "land to flat?" Should it be "land too flat?"
What exactly is this? What is the proper way to land?
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Joona
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2 April 2004, 11:57 UTC #6

Rayden said:
*What is this "land to flat?" Should it be "land too
flat?"
What exactly is this? What is the proper way to land? *
Landing to flat means just what it says. You are, say three
feet, of the ground and jump down from there. If you land on
flat ground you are more likely to break your wheell. If you
land on a downhill, it will make you roll right away and the
shock from the drop will be absorbed by a larger area of the
wheel. Rolling out of the landing (you start pedaling right
on the moment the wheel hits the ground or even slightly
before it) is a good way not to brake your wheel when
landing a drop on flat.
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Rayden
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2 April 2004, 11:57 UTC #7

Oh. I thought maybe it had to do with how you place your
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Zelten
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2 April 2004, 11:57 UTC #8

when I do drops that are decent sized like 6 and above I
take olot in with my back, I lean over the front of the uni
with my lower back and it takes in alot, and I dont have
any back problems either, and for the 6 stairs try putin
your seat lower so your legs can take in more without
damagin the jewels
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Muniracer
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2 April 2004, 11:57 UTC #9

Zelten said:
*when I do drops that are decent sized like 6 and above I
take olot in with my back, I lean over the front of the
uni with my lower back and it takes in alot, and I dont
have any back problems either, and for the 6 stairs try
putin your seat lower so your legs can take in more
without damagin the jewels *
yeah, i try to lean over as much as possible. i am not so
much worried about protecting me but more so the uni.
joona- it doesnt happen when i do a smaller drop but only on
the 5 and 6 sets. i guess i cold put air in the tire but
what happens when i try a higher drop? i guess if i do these
drops often, i should increase the pressure. but then i cant
hop as high (less bounce in the tires). Hopefully Ryan A.
can answer this one for me. in his videos i see him hopping
three feet up and then doing a 5-6 foot drop. he must have a
low tire pressure to hop that high. its hard to explain the
'thud' when you guys cant hear it but its not that loud... i
guess the fall would have to make a sound, even if rolling
out of it. im just not sure...
the main question: is the roll-out immediate, or occur a
millisecond after one hits the ground. its just hard for me
to imagine that you drop into the roll, as it would be hard
to keep balance.
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Joona
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2 April 2004, 11:57 UTC #10

muniracer said:
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yeah, i try to lean over as much as possible. i am not so
much worried about protecting me but more so the uni.
joona- it doesnt happen when i do a smaller drop but only
on the 5 and 6 sets. i guess i cold put air in the tire
but what happens when i try a higher drop? i guess if i do
these drops often, i should increase the pressure. but
then i cant hop as high (less bounce in the tires).
Hopefully Ryan A. can answer this one for me. in his
videos i see him hopping three feet up and then doing a
5-6 foot drop. he must have a low tire pressure to hop
that high. its hard to explain the 'thud' when you guys
cant hear it but its not that loud... i guess the fall
would have to make a sound, even if rolling out of
it. im just not sure...*
I guess the thud is more a feeling than a sound. I've gotten
those too, but I immediately increased the pressure. Your
the sidewalls of your tire may start to break and go softer,
or you might pop your tube on one of these drops if you
don't increase the pressure. My tire is now quite a lot
harder than some time ago, but still, my hops have improved.
You'll just have to put more downforce on the prehop. I
think someone said that Kris uses quite a high tire
pressure, but he can still jump high. At least by my
standards.
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Phil
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2 April 2004, 12:35 UTC #11

muniracer said:
*is the roll-out immediate, or occur a millisecond after
one hits the ground. its just hard for me to imagine that
you drop into the roll, as it would be hard to keep
balance. *
I think the idea is that you don't land with your weight
straight through the wheel; you land with the weight on a
pedal. This means the wheel touches down "gently" while the
pedal rotates from horizontal to vertical, slowly putting
all the weight onto the wheel.
In which case, the rollout is "instant"; if you trace the
movement of the pedal it will start slowing down and turning
slightly on landing, rather than stopping instantly.
If that makes any sense...
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Gingerfreek
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2 April 2004, 12:35 UTC #12

phil said:
* I think the idea is that you don't land with your weight
straight through the wheel; you land with the weight on a
pedal. This means the wheel touches down "gently" while
the pedal rotates from horizontal to vertical, slowly
putting all the weight onto the wheel.
In which case, the rollout is "instant"; if you trace the
movement of the pedal it will start slowing down and
turning slightly on landing, rather than stopping
instantly.
If that makes any sense...
Phil *
it does, as i have found myself landing in exactly this way,
with much success. The only thing that i think is important
to note is that, when landing, your weight should be
slightly foward (in preparation for the rapid rollout).i've
found that if i land with my weight slightly foward i have
to roll out instantly(in order to stay balanced), which
makes the rollout more subconscious, more instant and
consequently absorbes more of the shock.
if i land with my weight directly above the wheel i find it
hard to roll out propperly because my weight is thrown back
if i do, and i often have to step off backwards of fall off
or my foot gets thrown off or something like that.
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Phil
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2 April 2004, 12:35 UTC #13

gingerfreek said:
*The only thing that i think is important to note is that,
when landing, your weight should be slightly foward (in
preparation for the rapid rollout).*
Another thought is that this is probably why I can roll out
perfectly well on my 20" trials, but have much more
difficulty on a 24"... with the larger wheel size it
requires more force to get the wheel turning, so by the time
the downwards force gets the wheel moving it's too late and
the THUD has happened.
I'm just too much of a wimp to lean further out over
the void...
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Muniracer
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2 April 2004, 12:35 UTC #14

wow! great responses. i know what to do now. dont worry,
joe, ill be at motorama.
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2 April 2004, 12:35 UTC #15

I find that when I land even 2' drops, I only rollout for
1/2 of a pedal revolution. I drop, and immediately I'm
rolling. But then again, I hate drops, and I won't drop over
20" unless it's part of a line, or the first time I've
gotten to that part of it. I've had my fair share of 7 sets,
so I'm done. I'd rather jump up, than drop down. I also find
that the better drops are the ones where you need presicion,
where you can't rollout. Then you need to land seat out,
which is harder. I'm much more satisfied by a 2' drop onto a
16" diameter pole 2' off the ground than a 4' drop directly
to the ground next to the pole.
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Muniracer
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2 April 2004, 12:35 UTC #16

good point. i think i am just doing them so much because i
have a splined hub and actually can do them. with my square
tapered i would do a lot of drops seat out, as you said. i
am doing sets instead of a straight drops because its a
little more practical.
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Merrill
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2 April 2004, 12:35 UTC #17

muniracer said:
*i am doing sets instead of a straight drops because its a
little more practical. *
What do you mean by "sets" and "straight" drops?
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Muniracer
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2 April 2004, 12:35 UTC #18

merrill said:
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What do you mean by "sets" and "straight" drops? *
i mean sets of stairs and just straight vertical drops. the
point that i was attampting to make was that jumping sets
(of stairs) is good for flatland tricks (tugboat style, of
course) while i try to limit vertical drops to trials lines.
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