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  1. Well I have decided that I want a MUni and I went to
    Unicycle.com and got all the MUni's written down that are in
    my price range. Now I was wondering what your opinions are
    on these and which ones you would suggest.

    1.United 20-inch Off-Road with Torker Black saddle Price:
    $124.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    2.United 24-inch Off-Road with Viscount saddle Price:
    $139.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    3.United 24-inch Off-Road Unicycle with Torker Black Seat
    and 28-spoke Suzue hub Price: $149.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    4.United 24-inch Off-Road with Torker Black Saddle and 36-
    spoke Hub Price: $159.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    5.Schwinn 24-inch Off-Road with Kenda Kenetic 24 x 2.6
    Price: $174.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    6.Nimbus 24-inch MUni Price: $189.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    7.Schwinn 24-inch Off-Road with Kenda Kolossal 24 x 2.6
    Price: $195.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    8.Nimbus 26-inch MUni Price: $199.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    9.Torker Unistar DX 24-inch Price: $209.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    10.United 24-inch Off-Road withTorker Black Saddle, Suzue
    36-spoke Hub and Kovachi Wheel Price: $219.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    11.Schwinn 24-inch with Nokian Gazzaloddi 24 x 2.6 DH Tire
    Price: $223.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    12.Pashley 20-inch MUni Price: $249.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    13.Pashley 26-inch Mountain Unicycle (MUni) Standard Price:
    $263.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    14.Yuni 24 inch Off-Road with 2.6 knobby tire Price: $299.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    15.Yuni 24-inch MUni Price: $299.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    16.Semcycle XLW 24- or 26-inch Off-Road Price: $319.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    17.Semcycle XLW 24- or 26-inch Off-Road with Torker Black
    Saddle Price: $339.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    18.Yuni 26-inch MUni Price: $344.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    19.Pashley 26-inch Fire MUni Price: $344.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    20.Semcycle XLW 24- or 26-inch with Sun BFR Rim, Gazzaloddi
    Tire, Semcycle Saddle Price: $349.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    21.Onza 24-inch MUni Price: $399.00
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp

    There is also a distributor called Lambert which a couple
    stores can order from in my area look in this topic.
    tinyurl.com3x6fo

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  2. Get the onza, their the only ones on your list that have a
    splined hub.

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  3. super_evill said:

    *Get the onza, their the only ones on your list that have
    a splined hub. *

    ah-hem. The Torker DX has a splined hub.

    Daniel

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  4. If 400$ is your pricerange i would suggest getting together
    with someone who really knows what they are talking about
    and decide on parts you want because i think it would be
    much more cost effective and putting together parts is very
    easy even for a beginner. If you want just a package deal
    then tell us what you want all we know is that yuve pretty
    much started to MUni but you want more so that means were
    shooting in the dark at whats right for you. I would suggest
    first checking product reveiws then go from there alot of us
    dont know what were talking about we just know what we like
    not what you like.

    I hope you find whats right for u!😄

    Note: i said alot of us not all of us!

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    crapped a rainbow into my brain!"-Me just after beleiving that if you
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  5. super_evill said:

    *Get the onza, their the only ones on your list that have
    a splined hub. *

    The Torker UniStar Dx-24 also has a splined axle and
    crankset. It has a
    25.4mm seatpost in addition which is a step up from the
    22.2mm weenie unicycle standard that needs to be changed
    desperately.

    The Onza ad claims that it has an alloy seatpost. That means
    nothing by itself. Steel is an alloy and the aluminum used
    in cycle parts can be any of several different alloys. Alloy
    is usually incorrectly used to distinguish steel (which is
    ALWAYS an alloy) from aluminum (which MAY occur as a pure
    elemental metal and not be an alloy). It is incorrectly
    applied in that it is generally used to describe something
    that is NOT steel. Interesting, irritating and almost
    universal misuse of the term. More importantly, does the
    Onza have a 27.2mm seatpost tube? If so many MB seatposts
    can be used with it and you can get a cheap seat rail
    adapter to give you a VERY flexible seat adjustment base.

    Lots of folks started with Schwinn frames. I think that
    they're too heavy and the marginally adjustable seatpost is
    annoying. The seatpost bolts pose a nice little thigh
    slicing threat, too.

    Big pluses to look for are: (1.) splined axle (hub) and
    crankset (2.) 24x3.0 tire (3.) 27.2mm seatpost tube (4.)
    metal, pinned pedals (5.) a seat with a handle preferably
    convertible to an airseat (6.) machined bearing holders
    (7.) lightweight frame. (8.) someone willing to give it to
    you for free.

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    harper - Old dog, no tricks

    -Greg Harper

    B L U E S H I F T

    "I hope to be a 90 year old guy who rides his unicycle to the store for
    whiskey and condoms." -J.D. Miller
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  6. harper said:

    ... Steel is an alloy and the aluminum used in cycle parts
    can be any of several different alloys. Alloy is usually
    incorrectly used to distinguish steel (which is ALWAYS an
    alloy) from aluminum (which MAY occur as a pure elemental
    metal and not be an alloy). It is incorrectly applied in
    that it is generally used to describe something that is
    NOT steel. Interesting, irritating and almost universal
    misuse of the term.

    Just substitute the phrase "aluminum alloy" whenever you
    see "alloy" in a cycling context and it all starts to
    make sense...

    Ken

  7. Are you just doing muni or do you plan on doing other types
    of riding too?

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  8. I think I will be doing other types of riding to.

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  9. I just realised something, I don't even think theres many
    places to go muniing around my area.🙁 I got to really think
    about what I want to spend my money on, Thank you all for
    repling though.

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  10. build your own

    buy separate parts abd then construct your own uni because
    this way you wont be paying for parts you dont need, for
    example if you buy a complete uni you will replace the
    saddle and pedals amd depending on your price range/style of
    riding you may upgrade crank arms (especially if you have a
    square tapered hub) and frame. here is what i did:

    miyata airseat conversion yuni 26" frame alex dx32 rim/
    suzue hub wheelset 24x3 arrow downhill tire bulletptoof
    pedals BE crankarms

    so, first the airseat. i got this because when i do muni, i
    like to make it an entire days trip. the airseat is by far
    the most comfortable seat and your butt will thank you if
    you get it.

    the yuni frame. while not a great frame, its cheap and has
    a great crown for one footed tricks. some of the completed
    munis have no crown on the frame and so if you plan to do
    freestyle you will need to upgrade; or, if you have a lOT
    of extra cash you may want to get a hunter frame or
    something similar.

    the wheelset. i have been happy with the suzue hub. i live
    in
    DC/virginia and i rarely come across a drop while riding
    trails that i would not do because i lack a splined hub.
    i do, though, hate cotterless cranks. the pyramid nut
    always comes loose and i need to buy new cranks every
    month ot two. the good thing about some of the completed
    unis (onza and kh) is that they have cheaper splined hub
    so you dont feel bad about paying 300 for a profile. i
    plan to upgrade to a splined hub for my uni very soon.
    ill probably get a profile. im just tired of bending
    crankarms and tightening pyramid nuts.

    the tire. you need a 3" wide tire for muni. i guess a
    smaller one would be fun because its more challenging, but
    if you want to ride to full potential get a 3". the arrow is
    much cheaper than the gazz but will wear out faster if you
    ride it on street (i dont have a gazz so this comparison is
    based on my arrow and my friend's gazz).

    bulletproof pedals are good because they are cheap and have
    good pins. the spindle will bend after a lot of riding but
    they are definitely worth the cost and work great.

    i listed BEs as my crankarms but i have gone through 4
    different types of crankarms (BE, torker, united, and sun).
    the torkers bent beyond repair in less than one hour of
    trail riding, the BEs lasted about 15 and the two others
    have surprisingly lasted hundreds before they died. i have
    nimbus x cranks coming in the mail so ill update later how
    well the work.

    this is all i have to offer but i will reiterate that
    building your own is fun and makes it easier to have exactly
    what you want. oh yeah, my set up was about 300 usd, maybe a
    little more. i rode it for muni, trials, and freestyle but
    now i have an onza 20" on which i can do trials and freestyl
    so i can save my muni for dirt use only. good luck and sorry
    for making you read this dreadfully long post. but if you
    are into reading really long stuff might i suggest
    dostoevsky's the brothers karamazov. i just finished and
    really enjoyed it.........

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  11. How about this one.
    tinyurl.com595r

    Air seat, Yuni Frame, Profile hub/cranks, Doublewide rim....

    Mojoe

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  12. I knew that was coming.

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  13. Mojoe is offering a great deal. If I was in the market for a
    Muni, I would definately bid on this ride. Good Luck!!! --chirokid--

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  14. If you've belatedly realised that there is nowhere locally
    that you can ride MUni, that suggests to me that you haven't
    done much MUni yet.

    If so, then you don't yet know what sort of MUni you
    will enjoy.

    Will you enjoy riding 5, 10 or 15 miles (or more) on rough
    tracks and across fields?

    Will you enjoy riding short but extremely difficult
    hilly sections?

    Up or down, or both?

    Or will you prefer staying in one small area and
    riding really difficult lines across the same patch of
    uneven ground?

    For long distance, a bigger wheel is good.

    For steep hills on firm ground, a smaller wheel is good.

    For drops and jumps, a small wheel with a fat tyre is good.

    For seriously uneven ground, mud and puddles, a big
    wheel is good.

    For long distance cross country, an ordinary (non splined)
    hub is perfectly adequate.

    For jumps and drops, I believe that a splined hub will
    last longer.

    I'm told air seats are comfortable. If you're riding MUNi
    you spend a lot of time standing up anyway! A non-air seat
    is perfectly good for 10
    - 20 mile rides.

    A good compromise is a 24 inch wheel with a fat (3 inch)
    tyre, cranks around 125 - 150 mm (170 are for very serious
    hills only) and pinned pedals. A good metal handle on the
    seat makes a big difference.

    Why not buy a good base model, upgrade it bit by bit (pedals
    will be the first upgrade) and find out what you really
    enjoy, then build your second MUni to suit your needs a few
    months later?

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  15. I was wondering is it a bad idea to use a muni for Trials?
    Will it break faster?

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  16. chirokid said:

    *Mojoe is offering a great deal. If I was in the market
    for a Muni, I would definately bid on this ride. Good
    Luck!!! --chirokid-- *

    I wasn't insulting him for plugging his sale. I know it's a
    great deal.

    Edit:New Page!!!(already?)

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  17. How do you do big drops and large staircases without hurting yourself?
    Theres a huge flight of stairs at my high school which I would like to
    tackle and I just got the new torker which I think could take the drops
    but I don't think I could. The DX torker is a really good muni for its
    price range and is a lot better for distance riding. I took it on the
    trail I usually rode on my old torker and after doing ten miles there is
    one thing to describe it. Ahhhh..... velo seat...😄

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  18. Mojoe said:

    *How about this one. tinyurl.com595r

    Air seat, Yuni Frame, Profile hub/cranks, Doublewide
    rim....

    Mojoe *

    It looks very tempting but it will only ship to U.S.🙁 I am
    in Canada, O well.

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  19. unidude9 said:

    *How do you do big drops and large staircases without
    hurting yourself? Theres a huge flight of stairs at my
    high school which I would like to tackle and I just got
    the new torker which I think could take the drops but I
    don't think I could. The DX torker is a really good muni
    for its price range and is a lot better for distance
    riding. I took it on the trail I usually rode on my old
    torker and after doing ten miles there is one thing to
    describe it. Ahhhh..... velo seat...😄 *

    I just lower my seat a whole bunch and "shock" the landing.
    By this I mean absorb it as much as possible with your
    body. Bend at the knees and flex your body. This extends
    the time over which the impact occurs and causes less force
    on your body and unicycle. When doing side-hops down stairs
    and such make sure you land with the unicycle leading your
    body, but not by much. If you don't you can taco your rim
    or fold the tire off
    it.

    The biggest thing I had trouble with when I first did drops
    was confidence. You need to be confident in yourself and
    your unicycle. Don't hop up to the edge of somethign and
    just sit there. If you're gonna do it, do it fast. The
    longer you think about it, the more you're going to think
    about bad outcomes. The more you think about bad outcomes,
    the more likely they are to come true. So if you think you
    can land a trick, just go try it. But start small and work
    your way up.

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  20. unidude9 said:

    *How do you do big drops and large staircases without
    hurting yourself? Theres a huge flight of stairs at my
    high school which I would like to tackle and I just got
    the new torker which I think could take the drops but I
    don't think I could. The DX torker is a really good muni
    for its price range and is a lot better for distance
    riding. I took it on the trail I usually rode on my old
    torker and after doing ten miles there is one thing to
    describe it. Ahhhh..... velo seat...😄 *

    As a general rule, when I ride down stairs I first hop up
    the set. That seems to make the stairs look less daunting.

    Drops are a little different cause I can't hop all that
    high. As OB1 said, confidence is a big part of it.

    Good luck, Daniel

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