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  1. I'm looking to buy clipless pedals now, but I want to retain
    the ability to use ordinary shoes as well.

    I've been looking at the Shimano M324 and M424. The
    former is type with a platform one side, SPD mechanism
    the other. The latter apparently supports ordinary shoes
    on the pedal outer.

    Any comments, pros, and cons for these two? I'll be using
    them on the road and on paths, not on actual mountains, so
    I'm not bothered about mud etc.

    Cycleexpress.co.uk have the former for 29 quid, the latter
    for 23 quid. Are Cycleexpress a reputable place? And is
    fitting pedals easy enough for an idiot like me?

    Also, regarding the SPD shoes that look like ordinary
    leisure shoes/trainers - are they comfortable enough to
    replace trainers, or are they just "not bad for walking
    around for a short while during a ride" comfortable?

    Last thing - how do the cleats attach to the shoe?

    --
    Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeith "I've seldom seen
    a horny player walk into a bar and not let out exactly what
    he did for a living." - Johnny Bench

  2. Keith Willoughby wrote:

    /snip (Sorry I can't help with pedal models mentioned)

    Quoted message said:

    Cycleexpress.co.uk have the former for 29 quid, the latter
    for 23 quid. Are Cycleexpress a reputable place?

    Yes, I've had good service from them (and no extra charge
    for postage).

    Quoted message said:

    And is fitting pedals easy enough for an idiot like me?

    Definitely. It helps to have a proper pedal spanner
    (thinner, longer and better angled than ordinary spanner)
    - could get one from a bike shop or: mwdyason.-mwdyason.-
    ltd.uk/shop.asp?no_category=23&text_company=TOOLS (£4.50
    free post)

    Don't forget: Left pedal unscrews clockwise, right pedal is
    normal (anti-clockwise to unscrew).

    Clipless pedal tension should be easy to adjust with an
    allen key. Setting up cleats on shoes can be fiddly (to find
    the most comfortable position) but it's well worth
    persevereing with, trying different positions/angles.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, regarding the SPD shoes that look like ordinary
    leisure shoes/trainers - are they comfortable enough to
    replace trainers, or are they just "not bad for walking
    around for a short while during a ride" comfortable?

    Some of them, including Shimano MO21, are as comfortable as
    ordinary trainers but have slightly stiffer soles for better
    pedalling (as well ofthe cleats, of course). I've tried a
    pair of these on myself, they're quite nice. Stiffer shoes
    will be even better for cycling, however. Velcro instead of
    laces are also good: nothing to get tangled in chain and can
    adjust while riding.

    Quoted message said:

    Last thing - how do the cleats attach to the shoe?

    Bit of sole pops out (if recess not already prepared) and
    cleats bolt on. Instructions should be supplied, and
    people who have the same shoes & pedals will no doubt help
    you further.

    ~PB

  3. Pete Biggs wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Don't forget: Left pedal unscrews clockwise, right pedal
    is normal (anti-clockwise to unscrew).

    Hah, not so much 'forget' as 'never knew that'. I guess it
    makes a lot of sense!

    Thanks for the advice.

    --
    Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeith "The truth is,
    these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."

  4. Keith Willoughby said:


    I'm looking to buy clipless pedals now, but I want to
    retain the ability to use ordinary shoes as well.

    I've been looking at the Shimano M324 and M424. The
    former is type with a platform one side, SPD mechanism
    the other. The latter apparently supports ordinary shoes
    on the pedal outer.

    I have one of the Shimano models with a large outer part - I
    think they're called 525s. Like you, I wanted the option of
    wearing normal shoes too. However, if I were buying again I
    wouldn't bother with this and would go for smaller, lighter
    SPD-only pedals (which are a bit easier to clip into as
    well). It simply isn't really a hardship to change shoes if
    I'm taking that bike out.

    Ian
    --
    www.drianwalker.com

    Remove the nice brown paste in my signature if you
    want to reply!

  5. Ian W said:
    Keith Willoughby said:

    I'm looking to buy clipless pedals now, but I want to
    retain the ability to use ordinary shoes as well. I've
    been looking at the Shimano M324 and M424. The former is
    type with a platform one side, SPD mechanism the other.
    The latter apparently supports ordinary shoes on the
    pedal outer.

    I have one of the Shimano models with a large outer part -
    I think they're called 525s. Like you, I wanted the option
    of wearing normal shoes too. However, if I were buying
    again I wouldn't bother with this and would go for
    smaller, lighter SPD-only pedals (which are a bit easier
    to clip into as well). It simply isn't really a hardship
    to change shoes if I'm taking that bike out.

    I mostly want the dual-use pedals to allow someone else to
    occasionally use the bike. Otherwise, I'd just go with the
    little SPDs, as you suggest.

    --
    Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeith "I was an angry
    young man in need of an icon and Leonid Brezhnev fell short
    on several counts" -- Mark Steel

  6. I've been riding those pedals on my tourer for about 8 years
    now. They are great. I use the regular side for my short
    ride to work and I use the SPD side for longer rides.

    Very practical and highly recommended. Dave

    "Keith Willoughby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ian W said:
    Keith Willoughby said:

    I'm looking to buy clipless pedals now, but I want to
    retain the ability to use ordinary shoes as well. I've
    been looking at the Shimano M324 and M424. The former
    is type with a platform one side, SPD mechanism the
    other. The latter apparently supports ordinary shoes on
    the pedal outer.

    I have one of the Shimano models with a large outer part
    - I think they're called 525s. Like you, I wanted the
    option of wearing normal shoes too. However, if I were
    buying again I wouldn't bother with this and would go
    for smaller, lighter SPD-only pedals (which are a bit
    easier to clip into as well). It simply isn't really a
    hardship to change shoes if I'm taking that bike out.

    I mostly want the dual-use pedals to allow someone else to
    occasionally use the bike. Otherwise, I'd just go with the
    little SPDs, as you suggest.

    --
    Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeith "I was an angry
    young man in need of an icon and Leonid Brezhnev fell
    short on several counts" -- Mark Steel

  7. Dave said:

    I've been riding those pedals on my tourer for about 8
    years now. They are great. I use the regular side for
    my short ride to work and I use the SPD side for
    longer rides.

    Very practical and highly recommended.

    Ta!

    --
    Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeith Unionise.

  8. Keith Willoughby <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I mostly want the dual-use pedals to allow someone else to
    occasionally use the bike. Otherwise, I'd just go with the
    little SPDs, as you suggest.

    The dual ones are very good. I have them on my
    touring/commuting bike. When you restart the correct side of
    the pedal seems to present itself nearly every time and you
    clip in as easily as with standard SPDs. Occasionally the
    rat-trap side comes round instead. It's no big deal as you
    can pedal reasonably well on this side even with a cleated
    sole. To change sides simply take your foot off at the
    bottom of the stroke and the correct side will be uppermost
    at the top of the next one.

    --
    Dave...

  9. On 28/3/04 8:04 pm, in article [email hidden], "Keith

    Willoughby said:
    Dave said:

    I've been riding those pedals on my tourer for about 8
    years now. They are great. I use the regular side for
    my short ride to work and I use the SPD side for
    longer rides.

    Very practical and highly recommended.

    Ta!

    I'll echo that. I have a pair of the flat one side, SPD
    the other that are fitted to the MTB which is used for
    almost everything. This gives me the option of using
    either normal shoes (boots/smart shoes/trainers) or my
    cycle shoes as I see fit.

    The pedals are fine and are mostly fit and forget. They have
    spanner flats but you will want a proper pedal spanner. To
    remember how to get the pedal off, place the crank facing
    forward. Add spanner facing backwards. Push the spanner
    down. That will undo the pedal.

    regards

    ..d

  10. David Martin said:

    To remember how to get the pedal off, place the crank
    facing forward. Add spanner facing backwards. Push the
    spanner down. That will undo the pedal.

    What a neat aide-memoire. Thanks!
    --
    www.drianwalker.com

    Remove the nice brown paste in my signature if you
    want to reply!

  11. "Keith Willoughby" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    I'm looking to buy clipless pedals now, but I want to
    retain the ability to use ordinary shoes as well.

    I've been looking at the Shimano M324 and M424. The
    former is type with a platform one side, SPD mechanism
    the other. The latter apparently supports ordinary shoes
    on the pedal outer.

    Any comments, pros, and cons for these two? I'll be using
    them on the road and on paths, not on actual mountains, so
    I'm not bothered about mud etc.

    I bought some 324's as "trainer pedals" for my weekend bike.
    They quickly moved to my utility and bought double-sided for
    the first. Excellent for that purpose. They are biased to
    the SPD side but even in thin soled shoes aren't intolerably
    lumpy. More annoying is when rhythm puts them wrong side up
    for engaging the cleats.

  12. in message <[email hidden]>, Keith Willoughby

    (') said:


    I'm looking to buy clipless pedals now, but I want to
    retain the ability to use ordinary shoes as well.

    I've been looking at the Shimano M324 and M424. The
    former is type with a platform one side, SPD mechanism
    the other. The latter apparently supports ordinary shoes
    on the pedal outer.

    Any comments, pros, and cons for these two? I'll be using
    them on the road and on paths, not on actual mountains, so
    I'm not bothered about mud etc.

    My partner has these on all her bikes and loves them.

    Quoted message said:

    Last thing - how do the cleats attach to the shoe?

    Screw into holes in the shank.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
    jasmine.org.uk~simon

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    below this line.

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