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  1. Does anyone else have a 'Raleigh Pioneer Classic'?

    I have obtained one which I'm converting to a fixed wheel, and was wondering if anyone knows what it
    was originally intended for?

    heres a photo:

    alexpg.ath.cxpioneer.jpg

    It has brazed lugged joints, threaded gear hanger, HDOs, 700C wheels, square taper BB, double
    chainset with a 5 speed freewheel.

    Its dark red, the only stickers are raleigh ones, no mention of reynolds blah or anything. As you
    can see it has the most horrific bars and saddle known to mankind at the moment 🙂

    Any info would be appreciated!

    Cheers,
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    -Alex

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  2. "Alex Graham" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone else have a 'Raleigh Pioneer Classic'?

    I have obtained one which I'm converting to a fixed wheel, and was wondering if anyone knows what
    it was originally intended for?

    hybrid, fairly cheap.

    Quoted message said:

    Its dark red

    That's a very purple dark red...

    (is the down sloping top tube an optical illusion?)

    cheers, clive

  3. "Alex Graham" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone else have a 'Raleigh Pioneer Classic'?

    I have obtained one which I'm converting to a fixed wheel, and was wondering if anyone knows what
    it was originally intended for?

    heres a photo:

    alexpg.ath.cxpioneer.jpg

    It has brazed lugged joints, threaded gear hanger, HDOs, 700C wheels, square taper BB, double
    chainset with a 5 speed freewheel.

    Its dark red, the only stickers are raleigh ones, no mention of reynolds blah or anything. As you
    can see it has the most horrific bars and saddle known to mankind at the moment 🙂

    Any info would be appreciated!

    Cheers,
    --

    -Alex

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  4. Alex Graham said:

    Its dark red

    Ahem. Euphemism of the year? :-)

    Simon

  5. Clive George said:

    That's a very purple dark red...

    Yeah, youre right, it is more of a purple 🙂

    So ever owned or ridden one? Do you know if the b*ll*ck crunching saddle and the flat handlebars
    are original?

    Cheers,

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    -Alex

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  6. In "]news:[email hidden], Alex Graham <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone else have a 'Raleigh Pioneer Classic'?

    I have obtained one which I'm converting to a fixed wheel, and was wondering if anyone knows what
    it was originally intended for?

    I would say it was a low-end "comfort bike" - a development of the traditional "roadster" that
    village bobbies used to ride, and nuns and posties still do. There is one chap at work who rides
    one, one of the older guys. AFAIK flat bars were standard.

    I think the frame is steel - probably cro-moly.

    BTW apologies for blank message sent earlier - must have accidentally double clicked on something

    Alex

  7. Simon Hay said:

    Ahem. Euphemism of the year? :-)

    Look - can people stop criticising my colour perception! I wrote dark red having last seen it in
    quite a dark room. I didnt look at the photo when I wrote that!

    Anyway iww is it a euphemism? Is being purple really that dark, sordid and unacceptable?

    🙂

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  8. Mr R@t (2.3 zulu-alpha) comms room 2 said:

    I would say it was a low-end "comfort bike" - a development of the traditional "roadster" that
    village bobbies used to ride, and nuns and posties still do. There is one chap at work who rides
    one, one of the older guys. AFAIK flat bars were standard.

    I think the frame is steel - probably cro-moly.

    Any idea of age?

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  9. Alex Graham said:

    Any idea of age?

    In fact, is there any general way to find out the age of a bike - perhaps from frame serial no.? I
    have a fairly aged Puch road bike I've been steadily upgrading as a hack bike but out of curiosity
    would like to know just how old it is...

    Simon

  10. "Alex Graham" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone else have a 'Raleigh Pioneer Classic'?

    I have obtained one which I'm converting to a fixed wheel, and was wondering if anyone knows what
    it was originally intended for?

    heres a photo:

    alexpg.ath.cxpioneer.jpg

    It has brazed lugged joints, threaded gear hanger, HDOs, 700C wheels, square taper BB, double
    chainset with a 5 speed freewheel.

    Its dark red, the only stickers are raleigh ones, no mention of reynolds blah or anything. As you
    can see it has the most horrific bars and saddle known to mankind at the moment 🙂

    Any info would be appreciated!

    Cheers,
    --

    -Alex

    We've had a ladies version 'Raleigh Pioneer Classic Jaguar 12 speed' since new (about 8-10 yrs old)?
    . It cost £220. Bars on yours look original. Saddle on ladies version is black with a couple of
    springs at the rear. I recently bought the gents (frame and forks only) and swapped the components
    over and am using it for commuting. My lbs has a new gents Pioneer in the showroom.but I didn't pay
    attention to the saddle type. When I mentioned that it was quite elderly they said they found it at
    the rear of the back room and have moved it to the showroom to try and sell it.

    Quoted message said:

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  11. PM said:

    We've had a ladies version 'Raleigh Pioneer Classic Jaguar 12 speed' since new (about 8-10 yrs
    old)? . It cost £220. Bars on yours look original. Saddle on ladies version is black with a couple
    of springs at the rear. I recently bought the gents (frame and forks only) and swapped the
    components over and am using it for commuting. My lbs has a new gents Pioneer in the showroom.but
    I didn't pay attention to the saddle type. When I mentioned that it was quite elderly they said
    they found it at the rear of the back room and have moved it to the showroom to try and sell it.

    Thanks for the info everyone btw

    So how have you got it set up? I thought its got quite a classic roady geometry and would make a
    good fixed wheel... Ill find out when I try riding it I suppose 🙂 Ive got rid of those horrendous
    bars and put some drops on.

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  12. Alex Graham <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    Its dark red, the only stickers are raleigh ones, no mention of reynolds blah or anything.

    Probably high-tensile steel, though Raleigh did make Reynolds tubed ones in 501 butted Cr-Mo. For a
    couple of years, when really going for the hard sell on Pioneers, they even made a 531 version -
    potential candidate for conversion to a beginner's 'cross machine?

    David E. Belcher

    Dept. of Chemistry, University of York

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