Outdated strips & testing too much

rainbow wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
. . .(snip). . . Well, I had a need to test, and I had no strips and got out the horded stash. Used
them and they didn't seem wrong. Bought some and tested ad the old ones were okay. Same reading.
What is this about ? Do they really expire ? I wouldn't bet my life on it but it seems like maybe
something is afoot here. Is this just another medical rip off ? They were over a year old. I
wouldn;t tell someone to use expired strips, but I have been testing for over a week,side by side
with new strips and theold ones are fine ??!! .... Rainbow

AFAIK, strip expiration dates are set to keep the lawyers happy. The lawyers tell the companies
that make them to make d*mn sure there's an expiration date, and to make d*mn sure that the
expiration date is very conservative.

Doc Biggs complained about medical expiration dates in one of his posts a while back. The expiration
dates are arbitrary and capricious. He said in effect that we have more information on our cars than
our meds, and the FDA doesn't help much in that area.

Keep them cool and dry. Dry is more important but cool is definitely up there too.

Regards
Old Al

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:57:08 -0800 (PST), [email hidden]

(rainbow) said:

Well, while I had insurance, I managed to get one doc to agree to try to get my insurance to pay fr
strips. I had not had any insurance that would, before tht, but I did get a discount. So we made
and experiment, and l and behold, free strips. The way he wrote the prescripton for the drug store,
I guess, is how this occurred. Anyway, I was able to get the biggest box 4 times a month, Look,
don't ask me how, I don't know, but when I discovered I could, I went dutifully every week. So I
began to stockpile them. Then I changed insurance again and had to use a different meter that this
insurance paid for and my stockpile of other strips dissappeared to the back of my dark bathrooom
cabinet. I just read something in a post on here recently the someone was told they wereobsessed
with their numbers. This was me, for a while and I've been chastised by more than one doc for
chasing numbers too tightly. When you are type one it is alot more necessary than type two, so they
all said. 10 points high or low, who cares. "When you get up over 175 all day for a week, call me."
Well, unless something had gone very wrong, I knew an extra treadmill run or 30 minute walk would
about take care of most any small high and some food for a low, and I wasn't going to get worse or
die if I had 1 bad day a week. So I stopped testing, one becasue it began to cost money. two
because I stayed within a range, 90 % of the time, and only tested when I was ill or felt funny. It
did seem obsessive to test 4 times a day for nothing. So aware of how I feel during highs and lows,
I know something is off. Well, I had a need to test, and I had no strips and got out the horded
stash. Used them and they didn't seem wrong. Bought some and tested ad the old ones were okay. Same
reading. What is this about ? Do they really expire ? I wouldn't bet my life on it but it seems
like maybe something is afoot here. Is this just another medical rip off ? They were over a year
old. I wouldn;t tell someone to use expired strips, but I have been testing for over a week,side by
side with new strips and theold ones are fine ??!! .... Rainbow

I'm currently using expired Freestyle sticks purchased from EBay. I wouldn't recommend using the
sticks more than a few months beyond the expiration date.

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oldal4865 said:

AFAIK, strip expiration dates are set to keep the lawyers happy. The lawyers tell the companies
that make them to make d*mn sure there's an expiration date, and to make d*mn sure that the
expiration date is very conservative.

Doc Biggs complained about medical expiration dates in one of his posts a while back. The
expiration dates are arbitrary and capricious. He said in effect that we have more information on
our cars than our meds, and the FDA doesn't help much in that area.

Keep them cool and dry. Dry is more important but cool is definitely up there too.

The expiration dates were probably set by a combination of conservative factors, based on possible
heat exposure during shipping and storage plus the desire to turn the stock over quickly.

Since you can easily check using control solution, if the strips are more than a couple of months
out of date an occasional control test might be prudent. As long as they test ok they I think they
should be fine.

--
K'neH'a'Iw

Uncloaking, Shields up.

Rainbow, writing such a long post without breaking your thoughts into logically arranged paragraphs
makes for torturous reading. I was intrigued by your subject line, but decided to skip the pain of
reading your post...

dave

rainbow said:

Well, while I had insurance, I managed to get one doc to agree to try to get my insurance to pay
fr strips. I had not had any insurance that would, before tht, but I did get a discount. So we
made and experiment, and l and behold, free strips. The way he wrote the prescripton for the drug
store, I guess, is how this occurred. Anyway, I was able to get the biggest box 4 times a month,
Look, don't ask me how, I don't know, but when I discovered I could, I went dutifully every week.
So I began to stockpile them. Then I changed insurance again and had to use a different meter that
this insurance paid for and my stockpile of other strips dissappeared to the back of my dark
bathrooom cabinet. I just read something in a post on here recently the someone was told they
wereobsessed with their numbers. This was me, for a while and I've been chastised by more than one
doc for chasing numbers too tightly. When you are type one it is alot more necessary than type
two, so they all said. 10 points high or low, who cares. "When you get up over 175 all day for a
week, call me." Well, unless something had gone very wrong, I knew an extra treadmill run or 30
minute walk would about take care of most any small high and some food for a low, and I wasn't
going to get worse or die if I had 1 bad day a week. So I stopped testing, one becasue it began to
cost money. two because I stayed within a range, 90 % of the time, and only tested when I was ill
or felt funny. It did seem obsessive to test 4 times a day for nothing. So aware of how I feel
during highs and lows, I know something is off. Well, I had a need to test, and I had no strips
and got out the horded stash. Used them and they didn't seem wrong. Bought some and tested ad the
old ones were okay. Same reading. What is this about ? Do they really expire ? I wouldn't bet my
life on it but it seems like maybe something is afoot here. Is this just another medical rip off ?
They were over a year old. I wouldn;t tell someone to use expired strips, but I have been testing
for over a week,side by side with new strips and theold ones are fine ??!! .... Rainbow

And I detest it when people complain about how other people write. i write the way I speak, in a
word and carefree manner and I don't care if you skipped it or not. Someone must read it ... I get
alot of personal email. Are you one of those people who uses your for you're or prolly for probably
... do you diagram every sentence for content. Also take in to cinsideration that I can't see very
well at all anymore and I can't always tell how something looks when written. What you replied to me
sounded like a cranky insult. Rainbow Man if i complainedabout every minor little thing, I would
just about never shut up ... now it ooks like me that's cranky !

You mention not being able to see the screen well. There are products which enlarge what is on the
screen. Many times it helps to use a larger font size in your software or choose a different screen
size in the windows desktop. Ask a computer savvy friend to help you.

I was attempting to inform you that your writing style is difficult to read. That's constructive
criticism; not a cranky insult. Do it your way, RAINBOW!

dave

rainbow said:

And I detest it when people complain about how other people write. i write the way I speak, in a
word and carefree manner and I don't care if you skipped it or not. Someone must read it ... I get
alot of personal email. Are you one of those people who uses your for you're or prolly for
probably ... do you diagram every sentence for content. Also take in to cinsideration that I can't
see very well at all anymore and I can't always tell how something looks when written. What you
replied to me sounded like a cranky insult. Rainbow Man if i complainedabout every minor little
thing, I would just about never shut up ... now it ooks like me that's cranky !

My screen, which is a real tv not a computer monitor, because I can't see the monitors at all, is
set to te highest level. This tv screen has more light to it which helps me to see. Thank God I
doesn't come out white background light blue print like some newsgroups I read, I can't see that at
all. I have to print those out or send it to another email account that comes out black.

"Bay Area Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I was attempting to inform you that your writing style is difficult to read. That's constructive
criticism; not a cranky insult. Do it your way, RAINBOW!

Chill out Dave, it's only a newsgroup note and not everyone is gramatically logical.

As it happens, I didn't find Rainbows post difficult to read at all.

Beav

it wasn't a grammar issue, Beav. The issue was that the entire post was written without paragraph
breaks, making for a tiresome read.

dave

Beav said:

"Bay Area Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I was attempting to inform you that your writing style is difficult to read. That's constructive
criticism; not a cranky insult. Do it your way, RAINBOW!

Chill out Dave, it's only a newsgroup note and not everyone is gramatically logical.

As it happens, I didn't find Rainbows post difficult to read at all.

Beav

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Bay Area Dave said:

it wasn't a grammar issue, Beav. The issue was that the entire post was written without paragraph
breaks, making for a tiresome read.

dave

Beav said:

"Bay Area Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I was attempting to inform you that your writing style is difficult to read. That's constructive
criticism; not a cranky insult. Do it your way, RAINBOW!

Chill out Dave, it's only a newsgroup note and not everyone is gramatically logical.

As it happens, I didn't find Rainbows post difficult to read at all.

Beav

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Mon said:

Well, while I had insurance, ...

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Well, I had a need to test, and I had no strips and got out the horded stash. Used them and
they didn't seem wrong. Bought some and tested ad the old ones were okay. Same reading. What is
this about ?

old strips tend to give less accurate results

but old strips are generally *still* useful (so long as you keep in mind that they may be
less accurate)

with regard to less expensive strips, go to hocks.comdiabeticproducts.htmOpen ↗ and
order one "meter deal" for a Fast Take meter+100strips = $37.99 plus two boxes of Fast Take 50
strips (2*19.95) = $39.90

which gives you 200 excellent strips (and a "free" meter) for only $76.89. 🙂

the order is 2 bucks short of meeting their minimum for free shipping, so order something else and
get free shipping. (the A1C Now Hemaglobin A1c Home Test 3/PK @ 3/$45 (under regular "meters"😉 looks
like a good deal to me, but i've still not tried them (yet))

bill t1 since '57

Bay Area Dave <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Rainbow, writing such a long post without breaking your thoughts into logically arranged
paragraphs makes for torturous reading.

This is the same type of [censored] that made BAD hated over in rec.woodworking. He's just spreading his
sunshine all over usenet.

Rich

well if it isn't the cyberstalker talking again! I haven't had the displeasure to read anything from
you in a long time (thank god for filters). talk about spreading sunshine. The difference between my
post and yours is that I was offering a suggestion to Rainbow; you thrive on character
assassination. You are a real piece of work, Rich.

dave

Rich said:

Bay Area Dave <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Rainbow, writing such a long post without breaking your thoughts into logically arranged
paragraphs makes for torturous reading.

This is the same type of [censored] that made BAD hated over in rec.woodworking. He's just spreading his
sunshine all over usenet.

Rich

"Bay Area Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

it wasn't a grammar issue, Beav. The issue was that the entire post was written without paragraph
breaks, making for a tiresome read.

Tiresome maybe, but not difficult, and how many people who post to NG are English majors? Not many
as far as I've ever been able to establish, and placing yourself in the position of school teacher
won't make her (or anyone) write how YOU want them to.

This us Usenet, not the Open Uni after all.

--
Beav

Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the
obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at www.beavisoriginal.co.uk

I'm no English major either, Beav! 🙂 I wouldn't subject my readers to such a difficult read, that's
all. No need for a flame war over my initial suggestion, for pete's sakes! Let's move on...

dave

Beav said:

"Bay Area Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

it wasn't a grammar issue, Beav. The issue was that the entire post was written without paragraph
breaks, making for a tiresome read.

Tiresome maybe, but not difficult, and how many people who post to NG are English majors? Not many
as far as I've ever been able to establish, and placing yourself in the position of school teacher
won't make her (or anyone) write how YOU want them to.

This us Usenet, not the Open Uni after all.

"Bay Area Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I'm no English major either, Beav! 🙂 I wouldn't subject my readers to such a difficult read,
that's all. No need for a flame war over my initial suggestion, for pete's sakes! Let's move on...

I'm not flaming Dave, just pointing out another viewpoint. Flaming only serves to decrease the
possibility that something good could be learned, and I'm not about to do that, so as you say...
onwards and upwards🙂

Beav