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  1. There've been threads on 'student food' and other cheap meals, but I wonder... I made Freedom Toast
    the other day from a couple of large slices ($2/loaf) of WalMart sourdough bread, 1 egg, and a
    little milk. Ate one with jam; froze the other and m'waved for another breakfast several days later.
    How much could that have cost? Why do cheap eats involve ramen noodles (can't argue with the
    cheapness, f'r sure) or hamburger extended to the limit with pasta?

    Surely this group can come up with inexpensive dishes that aren't Welfare Porridge. Assuming a
    normal range of condiments and spices, and kitchen equipment beyond a m'wave and hotplate, can
    rfc'rs come up with things better than hot dog casserole and chicken wing soup? I have a feeling
    that many here could produce more than Keep-'em-Alive Mash with modest ingredients.

    Maybe I'm wrong and one needs fresh veg (green peppers were 99 cents each the last time I checked!)
    and specialty meats to make really delicious food. Just a thought.

  2. Frogleg said:

    There've been threads on 'student food' and other cheap meals, but I wonder... I made Freedom
    Toast the other day from a couple of large slices ($2/loaf) of WalMart sourdough bread, 1 egg, and
    a little milk.


    (snip) Why do cheap eats

    Quoted message said:

    involve ramen noodles (can't argue with the cheapness, f'r sure) or hamburger extended to the
    limit with pasta?

    Surely this group can come up with inexpensive dishes that aren't Welfare Porridge. Assuming a
    normal range of condiments and spices,

    There's your problem. Assuming a normal range of condiments and spices. It's hardly fair to assume
    in a college dorm one would have anything aside from salt, pepper and some packets of ketchup from
    McDonalds. Maybe some hot sauce from Taco Bell or packets of Duck Sauce from the local Chinese
    takeout place.

    You have to get in the student groove. That hot plate can only do one thing... and they have only
    one pan. It's a skillet but doubles as a soup pan. Ramen works. So does Hamburger Helper (in its
    various incarnations) after you brown the burger and dump the grease down the unsuspecting dormitory
    drain. Likewise Kraft Mac & Cheese (with said hotdogs sliced into it). Hmmm, never heard of chicken
    wing soup, might have to try that.

    Now ask me why they don't steam some veggies or figure out how to stir-fry in that one-meal-wonder
    skillet. And I'll say I have no idea 🙂

    Jill (light years away from a college dorm but recalls the feeling)

  3. On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 00:02:01 GMT, Frogleg <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Surely this group can come up with inexpensive dishes that aren't Welfare Porridge. Assuming a
    normal range of condiments and spices, and kitchen equipment beyond a m'wave and hotplate, can
    rfc'rs come up with things better than hot dog casserole and chicken wing soup? I have a feeling
    that many here could produce more than Keep-'em-Alive Mash with modest ingredients.

    Refried bean toastadas.

    1/2lb of dry pinto beans ($.22) rehydrated and cooked until tender. Add 2 tsp of chili powder (I
    make my own - $.05), 1/4 onion - chopped ($.08), clove of garlic - smashed ($.03), and
    2.5-2TB of lard and/or rendered bacon fat ($.07). Mix it all up with a stick blender and salt to
    taste ($.002).

    Spread it on crispy tostadas ($.05/ea) or on warmed corn tortillas ($.02), top with any other
    condiments (pilfered Taco Bell taco sauce packets, ie.) or scrap meat/cheese you have lying around
    and you have some mighty fine eating. Cost about $.08 each or about $.25 for a meal of 3 (Recipe
    makes about 15). I eat these all the time and I'm not even broke (yet).

    Don't knock it until you've tried it.

    -sw

  4. Frogleg said:

    Surely this group can come up with inexpensive dishes that aren't Welfare Porridge.

    Not that I have a clue about what tuna costs these days, but creamed tuna of toast was probably me
    and my sibs favourite lunch. I still remember mum putting a slice of whole wheat toast down,
    ladeling over the sauce (we called it Tuna Barf) and then cutting the bread into perfect little
    squares for me while it snowed like mad outside. I must have been four. blacksalt

  5. The other day a friend of mine and I were driving around and couldn't make up our mind what we
    wanted to eat, plus we were getting short on cash. We both love bologna, so we went into the
    store, bought a pound of Eckridge Bologna, a loaf of bread and had plain bologna sandwiches, while
    driving around. We really liked them. And we spent less than $4 for everything, including two
    small bags of chips!

    Mark

  6. jmcquown said:
    Frogleg said:

    There've been threads on 'student food' and other cheap meals, but I wonder... I made Freedom
    Toast the other day from a couple of large slices ($2/loaf) of WalMart sourdough bread, 1 egg,
    and a little milk.


    (snip) Why do cheap eats

    Quoted message said:

    involve ramen noodles (can't argue with the cheapness, f'r sure) or hamburger extended to the
    limit with pasta?

    Surely this group can come up with inexpensive dishes that aren't Welfare Porridge. Assuming a
    normal range of condiments and spices,

    There's your problem. Assuming a normal range of condiments and spices. It's hardly fair to assume
    in a college dorm one would have anything aside from salt, pepper and some packets of ketchup from
    McDonalds. Maybe some hot sauce from Taco Bell or packets of Duck Sauce from the local Chinese
    takeout place.

    You have to get in the student groove. That hot plate can only do one thing... and they have only
    one pan. It's a skillet but doubles as a soup pan. Ramen works. So does Hamburger Helper (in its
    various incarnations) after you brown the burger and dump the grease down the unsuspecting
    dormitory drain. Likewise Kraft Mac & Cheese (with said hotdogs sliced into it). Hmmm, never heard
    of chicken wing soup, might have to try that.

    Now ask me why they don't steam some veggies or figure out how to stir-fry in that one-meal-wonder
    skillet. And I'll say I have no idea 🙂

    Jill (light years away from a college dorm but recalls the feeling)


    Years from dorm life myself, but I normally cook lunch for myself on weekdays, and it is often soup
    of some sort. I often only use one burner.

    Leek and potato soup can be very satisfying, and also makes a start for a soup with another
    ingredient, veggie or animal. If you aren't trying to be fancy, it needn't be white. You can use
    most of the green parts if you cut them up finely, or stick a wand blender in when cooked.

    While I have no objection to offal per se, I would never put hot dogs in. I would rather see the
    tripe, lips, or whatever and put them in knowingly. Hot dogs are an expensive way of eating what
    many on the list claim they would never eat.

    The same argument applies to Kraft mac & Cheese. If you want to adulterate cheese sauce with junk,
    there are cheaper ways to do it if you actually want cheese.( I associate Kraft Dinners with lean
    times during WW2.)

    What is wrong with chicken wings for soup? Brown them first, then wilt a chopped onion, throw in
    some pasta, cous-cous, stale bread, or some other starch and some water, and simmer as long as the
    starch takes. Quick cous-cous is almost instant, and doesn't need a refrigerator.

    You do need salt and pepper, and I would keep a bottle of Tabasco as well.

    All this assumes a sink and running water, but not refrigeration, if chicken wings and such are
    bought for immediate use.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

    The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of
    discouraging rational inquiry.
    - Richard Dawkins, "Viruses of the Mind"

  7. jmcquown said:
    Frogleg said:

    There've been threads on 'student food' and other cheap meals, but I wonder... I made Freedom
    Toast the other day from a couple of large slices ($2/loaf) of WalMart sourdough bread, 1 egg,
    and a little milk.


    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    Why do cheap eats involve ramen noodles (can't argue with the cheapness, f'r sure) or hamburger
    extended to the limit with pasta?

    Surely this group can come up with inexpensive dishes that aren't Welfare Porridge. Assuming a
    normal range of condiments and spices,

    There's your problem. Assuming a normal range of condiments and spices. It's hardly fair to assume
    in a college dorm one would have anything aside from salt, pepper and some packets of ketchup from
    McDonalds.

    I have explained this qestion badly. I'm *wasn't* asking about student food, just using that as an
    example of how cheap eats are often discussed here. What I'm after is inexpensive gour-may ideas.
    Not rock-bottom poverty fuel, but also ideas that don't require goat cheese and prosciutto or a
    bucket of fresh raspberries to taste 'right.' Also wasn't thinking of "how to feed 20 people for
    $10" dishes. Just inexpensive but *good* food. Ex: potatoes and onions can be had quite cheaply.
    Cabbage and carrots. Celery and eggs keep going up and up, but butter is pretty cheap right now.
    Frozen veg are cheaper than fresh, mostly. Chicken, whole or cut up, is relatively inexpensive. It's
    easy to make something delicious that starts with a pound of large shrimp or sushi-grade tuna; what
    about something that starts with frozen whiting?

  8. Frogleg said:
    jmcquown said:
    Frogleg said:

    There've been threads on 'student food' and other cheap meals, but I wonder... I made Freedom
    Toast the other day

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There's your problem. Assuming a normal range of condiments and spices. It's hardly fair to
    assume in a college dorm one would have anything aside from salt, pepper and some packets of
    ketchup from McDonalds.


    (snipped)

    Quoted message said:

    inexpensive. It's easy to make something delicious that starts with a pound of large shrimp or sushi-
    grade tuna; what about something that starts with frozen whiting?

    Ah, there you go! Fish & chips! I happen to adore pan-fried whiting (we're talking pan dressed;
    heads removed, bone-in). That's easy *and* inexpensive. You've got your whiting. You 've got some
    potatoes. You've got a meal!

    One pan (a skillet). Oil of choice; I like canola. Cook the sliced potatoes/fries first - and if you
    want them really nice and crisp cook them once, let them cool, then fry them again. Remove to a
    brown paper bag (we're talking *cheap* here!) to drain. Dose with salt & pepper.

    Dredge the thawed whiting in a mixture of cornmeal/flour/salt/pepper. Brown about 3 fish at a time
    (depends on the size of that skillet) on medium hot heat, about 10 minutes on each side, until
    golden brown. Remove with a wide flat slotted thingey (technical cooking term heheh) and place on
    another brown paper bag (again, cheap) to absorb any excess oil.

    The fish is absolutely wonderful, tender and tasty; flakes off the bones with a fork. Dang, now
    you're going to make me go look for whiting again at the store! IIRC the last time I bought it, it
    was about $1.50 a pound for a 5 lb. box.

    If you absolutely must have something green to go with this I'd suggest er, salad.

    Jill (hates salads)

  9. Frogleg said:

    There've been threads on 'student food' and other cheap meals, but I wonder... I made Freedom
    Toast the other day from a couple of large slices ($2/loaf) of WalMart sourdough bread, 1 egg, and
    a little milk. Ate one with jam; froze the other and m'waved for another breakfast several days
    later. How much could that have cost? Why do cheap eats involve ramen noodles (can't argue with
    the cheapness, f'r sure) or hamburger extended to the limit with pasta?

    Then you have not been reading closely. I have seen lots of postings in the cheap foods threads
    about interesting dishes that can be made inexpensively that do not involve raman noodles, or other
    manufactured food extenders.

    For example, I have posted several times that one of my favorite cheap dishes is to make chicken
    legs, which are full of flavor and very inexpensive. Two or three chicken legs (depending on size)
    makes a filling and flavorful meal and they're easy to cook in numerous different ways without any
    hamburger helper type ingredients, nor any raman noodles, and no dried beans or pasta.

    I like to take chicken legs, sear them all over in a hot non-stick pan in a bit of olive oil or
    regular vegetable oil. Add in a can of pureed tomatoes, some herbs and spices. some sliced mushrooms
    (optional), and serve over plain white steamed rice. Very low cost and loaded with flavor.

  10. What I think many people are forgetting is that in a college dorm (at least in the college I went to
    20 years ago) there was no running water in the room, no counter, no real knives, no spices, etc. If
    I wanted to cook anything, I had my hotplate and a pot and a pan. The room was too small for food
    storage past a few cans or boxes. Ultimately, I lived on Mac & Cheese, cereal, soups, ramen, pizza
    delivery and sub sandwich delivery - same things people are saying that they're living on today.
    There just wasn't room or facilties to try anything remotely *fancy*.

    Maybe dorm life is different these days, but back then the rooms were just not condusive to cooking
    when you couldn't even rinse a pot without lugging a whole mess to the community bathroom way at the
    end of the hall.

    kilikini

  11. kalanamak said:

    Not that I have a clue about what tuna costs these days, but creamed tuna of toast was probably me
    and my sibs favourite lunch....

    I was raised on the stuff. Still fix a batch now 'n then. If you catch the supermarket sales, you
    can still get a can of mushroom soup for $.50 and a can of good tuna for $1. It's the damn milk
    that's insanely priced!

    Creamed Tuna on Toast

    1 can cream of mushroom soup 1 can tuna 7-8oz milk toast

    This ain't rocket science. Make soup, add tuna, pour on toast.

    Open window shades so you can view the dismal rain/snow outside and appreciate how good you've
    got it. 🙂

    nb

  12. "notbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:5t9Tb.204055$na.334992@attbi_s04...

    Quoted message said:
    kalanamak said:

    Not that I have a clue about what tuna costs these days, but creamed tuna of toast was probably
    me and my sibs favourite lunch....

    I was raised on the stuff. Still fix a batch now 'n then. If you catch the supermarket sales, you
    can still get a can of mushroom


    soup

    Quoted message said:

    for $.50 and a can of good tuna for $1. It's the damn milk that's


    insanely

    Quoted message said:

    priced!

    Creamed Tuna on Toast

    1 can cream of mushroom soup 1 can tuna 7-8oz milk toast

    This ain't rocket science. Make soup, add tuna, pour on toast.

    Open window shades so you can view the dismal rain/snow outside and appreciate how good you've
    got it. 🙂

    nb

    Jeez, sometimes I wouldn't mind going back to the mainland! A can of cheap tuna here is $1.29, but
    you can occasionally buy it on sale for $.99. Mushroom soup is $1.89 a can - on sale for $1.49, milk
    is $6.49 a gallon and a loaf of cheap bread is $2.99. Fresh broccoli is $2.99 a pound, iceberg
    lettuce is $1.59 a pound, and baking 'taters are $.99 a pound.

    One package of shrimp ramen $.49. Jack in the Box jumbo Jack $.99. McD's double-pounder $.99.

    If you don't have much money, it seems almost impossible to eat healthy.

    kilikini

  13. when I was in college I lived in a room that of course had no kitchen....soooooo what I used was a
    crock pot and an electric frying pan...two indispensible appliances for those without kitchens.....

    one staple was rice with cream of whatever on it and some sort of vegetable...one frozen box of
    veggies of your choice...whatever i cooked always lasted me for dinner and lunch the next day.....it
    didn;t go bad overnight even when I used a piece of meat like a pork blade steak or chicken...maybe
    i was skirting death at every meal...but I ate fairly well even if it was pretty boring.. LG

  14. kilikini said:

    What I think many people are forgetting is that in a college dorm...

    Not, not, not asking about student food! Sorry I even mentioned it as a peripheral example of what I
    *wasn't* interested in.

    Want ideas of economical *real* food. What would dear Julia do if restricted to a common or garden
    supermarket and no budget for a $50 roast and $2.50/ea artichokes? I have a feeling she'd be able to
    dazzle with a packet of frozen spinach and some chicken thighs.

    We're all (mostly) supposed to be inventive and talented cooks who can make the most of whatever
    ingredients are available. Not Iron Chef weird stuff, but plain ol' supermarket food. If it takes a
    specialty butcher and ground macadamia nuts and goat cheese and baby zucchini to make anything worth
    eating, then we deserve to pay $45 for a restaurant hamburger.

    Can't anybody come up with a few main dishes, sides, soups or salads that are a delight and don't
    include some particularly expensive brand of chestnut puree? Is the only food worth eating the
    product of free-range pheasants and out-of-season endiive?

    No one suggested souffles and quiches. or simple fruit [censored] for dessert. Soups and stews are often
    economical, but I'd like to see some more individual main dishes and crafty use of meat. A new
    thread on 'elegant salmon loaf' has possibilities, 'though I wasn't thinking of 'open a can of this
    and a can of that.' Not excluding it, either.

    Come ON people. I'm a fan of white chicken meat, but whole fryers were on sale last week for
    $0.48/lb. Wouldn't a roasted chicken surrounded by potatoes, carrots, and onions be cheap and good
    eats with dark- & light-meat eaters around? *This* is the kind of thing I was looking for.

  15. kilikini said:

    What I think many people are forgetting is that in a college dorm (at least in the college I went
    to 20 years ago) there was no running water in the room, no counter, no real knives, no spices,
    etc. If I wanted to cook anything, I had my hotplate and a pot and a pan. The room was too small
    for food storage past a few cans or boxes. Ultimately, I lived on Mac & Cheese, cereal, soups,
    ramen, pizza delivery and sub sandwich delivery - same things people are saying that they're
    living on today. There just wasn't room or facilties to try anything remotely *fancy*.

    Maybe dorm life is different these days, but back then the rooms were just not condusive to
    cooking when you couldn't even rinse a pot without lugging a whole mess to the community bathroom
    way at the end of the hall.

    I don't think things have changed much. Dorms do vary, but mine didn't have running water in the
    room, and you weren't supposed to have hot plates. I had a microwave, a rice cooker and a small
    fridge. NO pots and pans, NO spice rack of any kind. There was a tiny communal kitchen with a
    crappy erratic stove/oven, you supply your own utensils and cookware. I ate a lot of pasta
    (cooked in rice cooker!), tuna salad, PB&J, sandwiches, canned soups, jello, etc. Didn't like
    boxed mac and cheese, so I didn't have any. Ramen was a staple, though. And DH (then boyfriend)
    visited a lot, so we went out for replenishing meals of real food on weekends. ;D

    I realize this is a bit of thread drift from the original idea of inexpensive good food,
    sorry. It's sometimes hard to think of what a person can do minus the extensive spice
    cabinet, which is why I think a small investment in spices can be so useful in expanding
    one's repetoire of dishes. One cheap thing I like to do is take chicken leg quarters,
    usually on sale at .39-.49/lb, poach them, and use the meat in soups and chicken salad. A
    nice recipe from Jeff Smith's _Frugal Gourmet_ describes sprinkling the bits of cooked
    chicken with julienned scallions, a bit of soy sauce and sesame oil, then drizzling a bit
    of hot oil over the top to make it sizzle. Toss, and the flavors blend nicely and it goes
    great with rice.

    Ariane

  16. Frogleg said:
    kilikini said:

    What I think many people are forgetting is that in a college dorm...

    Not, not, not asking about student food! Sorry I even mentioned it as a peripheral example of what
    I *wasn't* interested in.

    Want ideas of economical *real* food. What would dear Julia do if restricted to a common or garden
    supermarket and no budget for a $50 roast and $2.50/ea artichokes? I have a feeling she'd be able
    to dazzle with a packet of frozen spinach and some chicken thighs.

    *REAL* barbecue where you take a tough, cheap cut of meat and make it into a heavenly food, fit for
    the Gods. Mexican/ Cuban/Island type foods. Use the cheaper spices. Think "breads" (freshly baked)
    Home made pizza (without the expensive toppings) Grilled fresh vegetables

    BOB

  17. Frogleg said:
    kilikini said:

    What I think many people are forgetting is that in a college dorm...

    Not, not, not asking about student food! Sorry I even mentioned it as a peripheral example of what
    I *wasn't* interested in.

    Want ideas of economical *real* food. What would dear Julia do if restricted to a common or garden
    supermarket and no budget for a $50 roast and $2.50/ea artichokes? I have a feeling she'd be able
    to dazzle with a packet of frozen spinach and some chicken thighs.

    We're all (mostly) supposed to be inventive and talented cooks who can make the most of whatever
    ingredients are available. Not Iron Chef weird stuff, but plain ol' supermarket food. If it takes a
    specialty butcher and ground macadamia nuts and goat cheese and baby zucchini to make anything
    worth eating, then we deserve to pay $45 for a restaurant hamburger.

    Can't anybody come up with a few main dishes, sides, soups or salads that are a delight and don't
    include some particularly expensive brand of chestnut puree? Is the only food worth eating the
    product of free-range pheasants and out-of-season endiive?

    No one suggested souffles and quiches. or simple fruit [censored] for dessert. Soups and stews are often
    economical, but I'd like to see some more individual main dishes and crafty use of meat. A new
    thread on 'elegant salmon loaf' has possibilities, 'though I wasn't thinking of 'open a can of this
    and a can of that.' Not excluding it, either.

    Come ON people. I'm a fan of white chicken meat, but whole fryers were on sale last week for
    $0.48/lb. Wouldn't a roasted chicken surrounded by potatoes, carrots, and onions be cheap and good
    eats with dark- & light-meat eaters around? *This* is the kind of thing I was looking for.

    Here is a chicken recipe you may like
    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Yellow Rice and Chicken, Tampa Style

    Recipe By : Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Main Dishes Poultry

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    1 chicken, whole -- cut in quarters 4 ounces olive oil 1 medium onion -- sliced thin 2 cloves
    garlic 6 ounces tomatoes -- drained 1 1/2 scoops water 1 bay leaf 2 tablespoons salt 1 pound rice
    1 Pinch saffron 1 green pepper -- chopped 2 pimentos 1 can peas *

    Cut chicken in quarters and fry in oil with onion and garlic. When done, add tomatoes and
    water. Boil for 5 minutes. Add bay leaf, salt, rice, saffron and green pepper. Stir
    thoroughly and place in moderate oven for 20 - 25 minutes. Place on heated platter, garnish
    with peas and pimentos.

    (Can cut chicken in serving pieces. Bake for 30 minutes for drier rice.)

    NOTES : petit peas

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    --
    Susan N.

    There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who do not.

  18. On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 19:06:38 GMT, Frogleg <[email hidden]> wrote: [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    Can't anybody come up with a few main dishes, sides, soups or salads that are a delight and don't
    include some particularly expensive brand of chestnut puree? Is the only food worth eating the
    product of free-range pheasants and out-of-season endiive?

    No one suggested souffles and quiches. or simple fruit [censored] for dessert. Soups and stews are
    often economical, but I'd like to see some more individual main dishes and crafty use of meat. A
    new thread on 'elegant salmon loaf' has possibilities, 'though I wasn't thinking of 'open a can of
    this and a can of that.' Not excluding it, either.

    Come ON people. I'm a fan of white chicken meat, but whole fryers were on sale last week for
    $0.48/lb. Wouldn't a roasted chicken surrounded by potatoes, carrots, and onions be cheap and good
    eats with dark- & light-meat eaters around? *This* is the kind of thing I was looking for.

    Easy now, thread drift happens. No use getting too worked up over it or your blood pressure
    will never go down while reading this group. 😉

    I think people have mentioned plenty of ideas in this group as a whole, although you might
    get more specific responses if you were to Google or ask on misc.consumers.frugal-living.
    I tend to try and keep things fairly simple, just because it suits my skills and the time
    I have available to me. A few examples of very basic meals, some I've done these past
    couple weeks:

    --pan-fried fish (dredged in seasoned flour), then with a bit of sherry, soy sauce, water, ginger
    and scallions added to the pan and made into a sauce, served with rice and steamed broccoli --roast
    beef, a chunk of bottom round rubbed with salt, pepper and studded with slivers of garlic, served
    with a baked potato and steamed asparagus --chicken breasts, marinated in Italian dressing and baked
    (can also be grilled or cooked on Foreman grill), cut into strips and tossed with romaine lettuce
    and sliced onion in a simple salad, dressing of your chocie --grilled ham and cheese --salmon
    croquettes, recipe at end of message --omelet, herbs are a nice addition if you've got them, but we
    like grated sharp cheddar, and sauteed mushrooms/onions, too --Dimitri's great recipe idea for
    baking some pork spare ribs on a bed of sauerkraut, chopped cabbage, sliced onion, with a sprinkling
    of caraway seeds, can add a splash of white wine or apple juice, eaten with mashed potatoes --
    cabbage roll-like stew with half and half mixture of ground pork and beef, simmered on stovetop,
    extra cabbage and sauerkraut --Mimi Hiller's sticky chicken (recipe in RFC cookbook) with parsley
    potatoes and a salad --Don't remember the Chinese name for it offhand, but a whole chicken rubbed
    with salt and let sit in the fridge overnight, next day poach it (boiling water, put chicken in, let
    sit a minute or two, take it out, bring water back to boiling, put chicken in, cover pot and turn
    off heat, let sit for an hour) and served with rice, maybe a dipping sauce (oyster sauce, hoisin,
    etc.) and some sliced cucumbers--leftovers work great in chicken salad --saute some garlic and
    onion, add some canned diced tomatoes and a can of good tuna, let simmer a bit, and serve over pasta

    Well, the list goes on. I'm sure that a great many people make fairly simple dishes quite often, but
    it may not occur to them to discuss them because... well, they're so simple.

    Ariane

    P.S. I've never had pheasant and probably wouldn't recognize an endive if it bit me on the ass. <g>

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    BAKED SALMON CROQUETTES

    Recipe By : Southern Living 1981 Annual Recipes, page 22 Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : Fish Salmon

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    15 1/2 ounces Canned pink salmon -- Drain, reserve juice Milk
    1/4 Cup Butter 2 Tablespoons Onion -- finely chopped
    2/3 Cup All purpose flour
    3/2 teaspoon Salt
    4/4 teaspoon Pepper 1 Tablespoon Lemon juice 1 Cup Bread crumbs, or crushed Corn Flakes

    5. Drain salmon, reserving liquid; add enough milk to salmon liquid to measure 1 cup; set aside.
    6. Melt butter in a heavy saucepan over low heat; add onion and cook until tender. 3 Add flour,
    stirring until smooth. Cook 1 minute, stirring constantly.
    7. Gradually add milk mixture; cook over medium heat, stirring constantly, until thickened and
    bubbly. Stir in salt and pepper;set aside.
    8. Remove skin and bones from salmon; flake salmon with a fork. Add lemon juice, 1/2 cup bread
    crumbs, and white sauce, stirring well.
    9. Refrigerate mixture until chilled; shape into croquettes. Roll in remaining bread crumbs.
    10. Place on a lightly greased baking sheet; bake at 400 degrees for 30 minutes.

  19. Frogleg said:
    kilikini said:

    What I think many people are forgetting is that in a college dorm...

    Not, not, not asking about student food! Sorry I even mentioned it as a peripheral example of what
    I *wasn't* interested in.

    Want ideas of economical *real* food. What would dear Julia do if restricted to a common or garden
    supermarket and no budget for a $50 roast and $2.50/ea artichokes? I have a feeling she'd be able
    to dazzle with a packet of frozen spinach and some chicken thighs.

    We're all (mostly) supposed to be inventive and talented cooks who can make the most of whatever
    ingredients are available. Not Iron Chef weird stuff, but plain ol' supermarket food. If it takes a
    specialty butcher and ground macadamia nuts and goat cheese and baby zucchini to make anything
    worth eating, then we deserve to pay $45 for a restaurant hamburger.

    Can't anybody come up with a few main dishes, sides, soups or salads that are a delight and don't
    include some particularly expensive brand of chestnut puree? Is the only food worth eating the
    product of free-range pheasants and out-of-season endiive?

    No one suggested souffles and quiches. or simple fruit [censored] for dessert. Soups and stews are often
    economical, but I'd like to see some more individual main dishes and crafty use of meat. A new
    thread on 'elegant salmon loaf' has possibilities, 'though I wasn't thinking of 'open a can of this
    and a can of that.' Not excluding it, either.

    Come ON people. I'm a fan of white chicken meat, but whole fryers were on sale last week for
    $0.48/lb. Wouldn't a roasted chicken surrounded by potatoes, carrots, and onions be cheap and good
    eats with dark- & light-meat eaters around? *This* is the kind of thing I was looking for.

    Here is another one of my favorites.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Kale With Cannellini Beans

    Recipe By :Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone by Deborah Madison Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time
    :0:00 Categories : Beans

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    2 pounds Kale salt pepper 1 small onion -- finely diced 1 1/2 tablespoons olive oil 2 cloves
    garlic -- minced pinch red pepper flakes 2 teaspoons rosemary -- chopped
    1/2 cup wine, white -- dry 1 1/3 cups cannellini beans, cooked
    2/4 cup Parmesan cheese -- freshly grated

    Simmer the kale in salted water until tender, 7 to 10 minutes. Drain, reserving the cooking water,
    and chop the leaves.

    In a large skillet, saute the onion in the oil with the garlic, pepper flakes, and rosemary for
    about 3 minutes. Add the wine and cook until it's reduced to a syrupy sauce.

    Add the beans, kale, and enough cooking water to keep the mixture loose. Heat through, taste for
    salt and season with pepper, and serve with a dusting of Parmesan.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    - -

    Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 216 Calories; 8g Fat (33.8% calories from fat); 10g Protein;
    26g Carbohydrate; 5g Dietary Fiber; 4mg Cholesterol; 194mg Sodium. Exchanges: 0 Grain(Starch); 1/2
    Lean Meat; 5 Vegetable; 1 1/2 Fat.

    Nutr. Assoc. : 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

    --
    Susan N.

    There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who do not.

  20. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    You have to get in the student groove. That hot plate can only do one thing... and they have only
    one pan. It's a skillet but doubles as a soup pan. Ramen works. So does Hamburger Helper (in its
    various incarnations) after you brown the burger and dump the grease down the unsuspecting
    dormitory drain. Likewise Kraft Mac & Cheese (with said hotdogs sliced


    into

    Quoted message said:

    it). Hmmm, never heard of chicken wing soup, might have to try that.

    Now ask me why they don't steam some veggies or figure out how to stir-fry in that one-meal-wonder
    skillet. And I'll say I have no idea 🙂

    Jill (light years away from a college dorm but recalls the feeling)

    I'm 2 years out of college dorm life, after living in the dorm for 4. I never ate Ramen noodles or
    any of the other "cheap slop" kind of staples...

    I'm not sure if things are like this at other schools, but both dorms that I lived in, one for one
    year and the other for the remaining three, had kitchens in the basement, complete with full-sized
    stove top and oven. This was at the University of Kentucky, BTW. So, students living in the dorms
    had more options than just a microwave. Hot plates weren't allowed, but some had them anyway.

    In my dorm room, I had a toaster oven (which wasn't allowed either, but I kept it under my bed and
    out of site unless it was in use), electric skillet, microwave, and mini-fridge. I did have a meal
    card, which operated on a declining balance format, so you weren't locked in to having to eat a set
    amount of meals. When I didn't eat at a place on campus, I could cook up some pretty decent food in
    my room and in the kitchen.

    I'm in graduate school now, and the school am at only has dorm space for freshman, so the
    majority of students live off-campus. At the grocery, it seems that most still go for the Ramen
    noodle suprise type of stuff. It always amazes me what you see these kids buying... lots of
    prepackaged junk.

    I think a lot of the times with college kids, it's lack of interest to try to make good food
    inexpensively. It can be done, but it involves some effort and planning ahead. Making chicken soup,
    etc isn't as quick as throwing a pack of Ramen noodles in the microwave. IMO, eating well for cheap
    isn't something you can do without thinking about it. I'm always planning ahead what I want to eat,
    how I can get the most from each food purchase, and still have really good food. I'll usually have a
    good idea of what I'm going to want at some point in the next 2-3 months, and I watch for whatever I
    need to go on sale. I never pay full price for meat of any sort, canned goods, butter, cheese,
    sugar, flour, potatoes, soda, juice, condiments... I tend to make most of my bread, but
    occassionally buy a loaf of sour dough, and I do buy bagels, hamburger/hotdog buns, and white bread
    for sandwiches, but I purchase on sale and freeze. My full price expenditures are usually limited to
    fresh vegetables, and even then, I try to stick to mostly what's in season, milk, eggs, and the
    occasional random special item. I've gotten creative at finding storage places for nonperishables,
    and I have a 5.5 cubic foot deep freeze, which I received as an apartment warming gift from my
    parents, to store the rest in.

    In addition to the long term general planning, I try to plan what I want for a week ahead of time. I
    plan for suppers and lunches, how much to make, if I can freeze leftovers, etc. I don't always stick
    religously to the plan--sometimes, even though I've thought I might want something it just doesn't
    sound good anymore when it comes time to make it--but it works pretty well.

    Another thing.. it seems like more and more young people make it to college without knowing to cook,
    or plan meals, or cook on a budget. When I was growing up, I was always in the kitchen with mom and
    my sister and I would accopmany her to the grocery store. I started cooking when I was 9, and by the
    time we were in high school, my sister and I were responsible for planning and preparing a couple of
    meals a week. Do kids not learn this type of stuff anymore? And not necessarily at school. I never
    sat foot in a home ec class, but my mom taught me what I needed to know...

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