need advice please :-\

Worried21 said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look to be the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i apologise, i tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i was 12 etc. this carried on
until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at this weight till i was 18/19. I was teased alot at
school and i hated my weight issue. Especially since girls said i had a really nice face, but my
body was too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Quoted message said:

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but that does not clear it away.

You are 21, 6 feet tall, and 161 pounds, and you think you've put on muscle! No way. You have done
some silly things (like a starvation diet) but I doubt you have ruined your life or your body. You
have great things ahead of you, all you have to do is want them enough.

I think you need to build some real muscle, and you will be amazed at what your body will look
like then.

stumptuous.comweights.htmlOpen ↗ exrx.netBeginning.htmlOpen ↗

These two sites will tell you how to lift some weights.

bodyrecomposition.combodyrecomposition.comOpen ↗ This site will tell you something about nutrition.

Take a look at the misc.fitness.weights newsgroup, but please read there first for at least a week
or they will crucify you.

I was nearly 20 stone a year ago and about as unfit as it's possible to get and still push a mouse
about. I have seen how my body has changed in a year as I've lost a shedload of weight and got a lot
fitter. I still don't quite believe it, but It's possible with a lot of effort..

Ray
--
rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

Welcome Worried. I haven't lost enough yet to know if I'll be plagued with extra skin so can't give
you any first-hand advice. I figure though, that you didn't have the best eating habits when you
had the excess weight and then the cracker diet wasn't good nutrition, certainly. Are you eating a
healthful, balanced diet these days? If not, I think the Weight Watchers way of eating would
benefit you greatly and maybe help with the skin and muscle tone. Congratulations on losing the
extra weight.
--
WatchingWorks
190/167/130 Drop some weight to reply "Worried21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look to be the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i apologise, i tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i was

12

Quoted message said:

etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at this weight till i was
18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my weight issue. Especially since girls said i had
a really nice face, but my body

was

Quoted message said:

too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due to

lots

Quoted message said:

of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight issue.

I

Quoted message said:

hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i mean, rye crackers) a day and
lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months and went from 15 stone to about 10. I thought I
looked fat still but my friend said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit
of a pigeon chest so it looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet tall 10 stone wasnt
enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost all the weight. The reason i thought i was
still fat was cause on my stomach i had excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just
loose skin. This

made

Quoted message said:

me feel even worse, i cried all the time worrying that I have ruined my body. My bum is flat, its
just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of a 50

y/o

Quoted message said:

man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick. Im not being big headed but im
very good looking, i know i am and people dont understand why i have no confidence.

Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about looks

and

Quoted message said:

looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do i

have

Quoted message said:

of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know alot

of

Quoted message said:

you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this. It annoys me cause I see this
guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like me

now)

Quoted message said:

but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is just flat and saggy with a
crease at the bottom.

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but

that

Quoted message said:

does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it slowly so the skin can tighten??
I have been offered modeling work a few times but i have no confidence, and i know that when they
see my upper body ill be laughed at :-(

Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to

improve

Quoted message said:

their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young guys,

not

Quoted message said:

a middle aged man.

Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to understand how much this worrys me.

Worried guy.

One of the best things I've heard works for sagging skin is time, building muscle, and time. Don't
put the weight back on, keep building the muscle and give yourself time--your skin will eventually
"spring" back. I've heard it can take well over 6 months to a year sometimes depending on age (your
young, that's good) and how dry your skin is (use mosturizer if it's dry and drink lots of water).

Taking the time to change your eating habits so that you are eating better will help also, but most
importantly work on your self confidence. Everyone deserves to be confident, including you!! Put the
past behind you the best you can (I know, easier said than done) and tell yourself you deserve to be
happy. When you start loving yourself and feel confidence in yourself others will see that and be
confident in you. Come here and post often when you have successes--you'll get lots of congratulations--
and when you have hard times--you'll get lots of support. I know lots of the people on this board
would help you with that self confidence issue!!! The other great thing about the people on this
board is they don't judge hard, just motivate (and kick your butt into gear when needed!!!) in
loving ways!!!

Good Luck!!! I'm on your side!!!

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)

"Worried21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look to be the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i apologise, i tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i was

12

Quoted message said:

etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at this weight till i was
18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my weight issue. Especially since girls said i had
a really nice face, but my body

was

Quoted message said:

too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due to

lots

Quoted message said:

of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight issue.

I

Quoted message said:

hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i mean, rye crackers) a day and
lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months and went from 15 stone to about 10. I thought I
looked fat still but my friend said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit
of a pigeon chest so it looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet tall 10 stone wasnt
enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost all the weight. The reason i thought i was
still fat was cause on my stomach i had excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just
loose skin. This

made

Quoted message said:

me feel even worse, i cried all the time worrying that I have ruined my body. My bum is flat, its
just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of a 50

y/o

Quoted message said:

man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick. Im not being big headed but im
very good looking, i know i am and people dont understand why i have no confidence.

Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about looks

and

Quoted message said:

looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do i

have

Quoted message said:

of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know alot

of

Quoted message said:

you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this. It annoys me cause I see this
guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like me

now)

Quoted message said:

but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is just flat and saggy with a
crease at the bottom.

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but

that

Quoted message said:

does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it slowly so the skin can tighten??
I have been offered modeling work a few times but i have no confidence, and i know that when they
see my upper body ill be laughed at :-(

Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to

improve

Quoted message said:

their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young guys,

not

Quoted message said:

a middle aged man.

Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to understand how much this worrys me.

Worried guy.

first of all, what is done is done, so start from where you are and don't
punish yourself for the past, it accomplishes not one thing. I am not sure
how long it has been since you have lost your weight but it can take up to
two years to have your skin adjust. My advice to you is to learn how to eat
properly now so you do not regain the weight and have to go through it all
gain. You might want to MAKE yourself take some of that modeling work so
you can save in case the skin does not shrink and you have to seek medical
alternatives. We all have confidence issues, we all are insecure because we
have lost weight and have a different body from what we are used to and we
all get through it eating healthy or we regain, I am pulling for you to
learn to eat properly and stay thin and get fit, Good luck, Lee
Worried21 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look to be the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i apologise, i tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i was

12

Quoted message said:

etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at this weight till i was
18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my weight issue. Especially since girls said i had
a really nice face, but my body

was

Quoted message said:

too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due to

lots

Quoted message said:

of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight issue.

I

Quoted message said:

hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i mean, rye crackers) a day and
lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months and went from 15 stone to about 10. I thought I
looked fat still but my friend said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit
of a pigeon chest so it looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet tall 10 stone wasnt
enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost all the weight. The reason i thought i was
still fat was cause on my stomach i had excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just
loose skin. This

made

Quoted message said:

me feel even worse, i cried all the time worrying that I have ruined my body. My bum is flat, its
just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of a 50

y/o

Quoted message said:

man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick. Im not being big headed but im
very good looking, i know i am and people dont understand why i have no confidence.

Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about looks

and

Quoted message said:

looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do i

have

Quoted message said:

of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know alot

of

Quoted message said:

you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this. It annoys me cause I see this
guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like me

now)

Quoted message said:

but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is just flat and saggy with a
crease at the bottom.

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but

that

Quoted message said:

does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it slowly so the skin can tighten??
I have been offered modeling work a few times but i have no confidence, and i know that when they
see my upper body ill be laughed at :-(

Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to

improve

Quoted message said:

their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young guys,

not

Quoted message said:

a middle aged man.

Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to understand how much this worrys me.

Worried guy.

I am 26. I am a woman. I had a baby 5 years ago and I lost 50 lbs. Now, my loose belly skin will
probably always be there. When I weighed 97 pounds it was like a little loose bag of skin hanging
off my stomach (not to mention the two flat socks with a dime in each I was carrying around for
breasts). Now I have gained 20 lbs since then I am now at 118 and voila: my breast are completely
full and my tummy is not loose anymore. On the other hand: my belly is now sticking out, I lost my
waiste and I can't fit into my pants.

I feel I have the choice between breasts & tight belly skin and being thin. Not an easy choice. I am
opting for a middle ground at 108 lbs.

My point is: Since you are a guy and your skin has not strecthed from here to eternity due to
pregnancy, it will probably bounce back over time - especially if you start building a whole lot of
muscle. But we must realize that we don't all get to be on the cover of "Sport Illustrated" although
we are now slim and fit. Because our bodies have taken a toll when we were overweight and it shows.
But don't worry - life shows - this is life.

:o)

Mette - who hardly notices her saggy skin or stretchmarks anylonger...

Thank you for your advice and kind words.

Best wishes :-)

"ray miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Worried21 said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look to

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i apologise,

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i was

12

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight till i was 18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my

weight

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

issue. Especially since girls said i had a really nice face, but my body

was

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Quoted message said:

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

does not clear it away.

You are 21, 6 feet tall, and 161 pounds, and you think you've put on muscle! No way. You have done
some silly things (like a starvation diet) but I doubt you have ruined your life or your body. You
have great things ahead of you, all you have to do is want them enough.

I think you need to build some real muscle, and you will be amazed at what your body will look
like then.

stumptuous.comweights.htmlOpen ↗ exrx.netBeginning.htmlOpen ↗

These two sites will tell you how to lift some weights.

bodyrecomposition.combodyrecomposition.comOpen ↗ This site will tell you something about nutrition.

Take a look at the misc.fitness.weights newsgroup, but please read there first for at least a week
or they will crucify you.

I was nearly 20 stone a year ago and about as unfit as it's possible to get and still push a mouse
about. I have seen how my body has changed in a year as I've lost a shedload of weight and got a
lot fitter. I still don't quite believe it, but It's possible with a lot of effort..

Ray
--
rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

Im not eating a very good diet. I've been so busy with my 2nd year drama performance the last few
months, but i know this is just an excuse. Im going to stop smoking (!!) and eat well, and I will
look good in the end. If it want it I will get it in the end!

Thank you

"WatchingWorks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Welcome Worried. I haven't lost enough yet to know if I'll be plagued with extra skin so can't
give you any first-hand advice. I figure though, that you didn't have the best eating habits when
you had the excess weight and then the cracker diet wasn't good nutrition, certainly. Are you
eating a healthful, balanced diet these days? If not, I think the Weight Watchers

way

Quoted message said:

of eating would benefit you greatly and maybe help with the skin and

muscle

Quoted message said:

tone. Congratulations on losing the extra weight.
--
WatchingWorks
190/167/130 Drop some weight to reply "Worried21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look to

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i apologise,

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i

was

Quoted message said:

12

Quoted message said:

etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight till i was 18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my

weight

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

issue. Especially since girls said i had a really nice face, but my body

was

Quoted message said:

too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due to

lots

Quoted message said:

of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight

issue.

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i mean,

rye

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

crackers) a day and lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months and went from 15 stone to
about 10. I thought I looked fat still but my

friend

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit of a pigeon chest so it
looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet tall

10

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

stone wasnt enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost all

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight. The reason i thought i was still fat was cause on my stomach i

had

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just loose skin. This

made

Quoted message said:

me feel even worse, i cried all the time worrying that I have ruined my body. My bum is flat,
its just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of a 50

y/o

Quoted message said:

man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick. Im

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

being big headed but im very good looking, i know i am and people dont understand why i have no
confidence.

Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about looks

and

Quoted message said:

looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do i

have

Quoted message said:

of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know alot

of

Quoted message said:

you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this. It annoys me cause I see
this guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like me

now)

Quoted message said:

but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

flat and saggy with a crease at the bottom.

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but

that

Quoted message said:

does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it slowly

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the skin can tighten?? I have been offered modeling work a few times but

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have no confidence, and i know that when they see my upper body ill be laughed at :-(

Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to

improve

Quoted message said:

their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young guys,

not

Quoted message said:

a middle aged man.

Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to

understand

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

how much this worrys me.

Worried guy.

Thank you :-)

I need my butt kicking sometimes!

"Janice Kennish" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8m8Jb.191809$8y1.619588@attbi_s52...

Quoted message said:

One of the best things I've heard works for sagging skin is time, building muscle, and time. Don't
put the weight back on, keep building the muscle and give yourself time--your skin will eventually
"spring" back. I've

heard

Quoted message said:

it can take well over 6 months to a year sometimes depending on age (your young, that's good) and
how dry your skin is (use mosturizer if it's dry

and

Quoted message said:

drink lots of water).

Taking the time to change your eating habits so that you are eating better will help also, but
most importantly work on your self confidence.

Everyone

Quoted message said:

deserves to be confident, including you!! Put the past behind you the

best

Quoted message said:

you can (I know, easier said than done) and tell yourself you deserve to

be

Quoted message said:

happy. When you start loving yourself and feel confidence in yourself others will see that and be
confident in you. Come here and post often

when

Quoted message said:

you have successes--you'll get lots of congratulations--and when you have hard times--you'll get
lots of support. I know lots of the people on this board would help you with that self confidence
issue!!! The other great thing about the people on this board is they don't judge hard, just

motivate

Quoted message said:

(and kick your butt into gear when needed!!!) in loving ways!!!

Good Luck!!! I'm on your side!!!

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)

"Worried21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look to

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i apologise,

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i

was

Quoted message said:

12

Quoted message said:

etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight till i was 18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my

weight

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

issue. Especially since girls said i had a really nice face, but my body

was

Quoted message said:

too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due to

lots

Quoted message said:

of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight

issue.

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i mean,

rye

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

crackers) a day and lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months and went from 15 stone to
about 10. I thought I looked fat still but my

friend

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit of a pigeon chest so it
looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet tall

10

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

stone wasnt enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost all

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight. The reason i thought i was still fat was cause on my stomach i

had

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just loose skin. This

made

Quoted message said:

me feel even worse, i cried all the time worrying that I have ruined my body. My bum is flat,
its just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of a 50

y/o

Quoted message said:

man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick. Im

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

being big headed but im very good looking, i know i am and people dont understand why i have no
confidence.

Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about looks

and

Quoted message said:

looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do i

have

Quoted message said:

of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know alot

of

Quoted message said:

you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this. It annoys me cause I see
this guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like me

now)

Quoted message said:

but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

flat and saggy with a crease at the bottom.

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but

that

Quoted message said:

does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it slowly

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the skin can tighten?? I have been offered modeling work a few times but

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have no confidence, and i know that when they see my upper body ill be laughed at :-(

Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to

improve

Quoted message said:

their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young guys,

not

Quoted message said:

a middle aged man.

Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to

understand

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

how much this worrys me.

Worried guy.

I do need a good diet. I had irregular sleeping pattersn due to funny working times and school
times. Regardless today I am starting. No smoking, no drinking (apart from JD!), lots of water (no
coke). No crisps, no chocolate.

I need to try and find out what to eat now for a well balanced diet. I know that when i eat properly
the weight falls off me, which would be helpful to get rid of this fatty belly i have.

Obvious stuff is easy, no fatty foods, no fast foods, no sugery drinks etc. I guess im safe to stick
to salad's, pasta, potatoes, fish ermmmmm and other stuff that is common sense that its good to eat!

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

first of all, what is done is done, so start from where you are and don't punish yourself for the
past, it accomplishes not one thing. I am not

sure

Quoted message said:

how long it has been since you have lost your weight but it can take up to two years to have your
skin adjust. My advice to you is to learn how to

eat

Quoted message said:

properly now so you do not regain the weight and have to go through it all gain. You might want to
MAKE yourself take some of that modeling work so you can save in case the skin does not shrink and
you have to seek medical alternatives. We all have confidence issues, we all are insecure because

we

Quoted message said:

have lost weight and have a different body from what we are used to and we all get through it
eating healthy or we regain, I am pulling for you to learn to eat properly and stay thin and get
fit, Good luck, Lee Worried21 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look to

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i apologise,

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i

was

Quoted message said:

12

Quoted message said:

etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight till i was 18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my

weight

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

issue. Especially since girls said i had a really nice face, but my body

was

Quoted message said:

too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due to

lots

Quoted message said:

of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight

issue.

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i mean,

rye

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

crackers) a day and lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months and went from 15 stone to
about 10. I thought I looked fat still but my

friend

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit of a pigeon chest so it
looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet tall

10

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

stone wasnt enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost all

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight. The reason i thought i was still fat was cause on my stomach i

had

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just loose skin. This

made

Quoted message said:

me feel even worse, i cried all the time worrying that I have ruined my body. My bum is flat,
its just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of a 50

y/o

Quoted message said:

man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick. Im

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

being big headed but im very good looking, i know i am and people dont understand why i have no
confidence.

Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about looks

and

Quoted message said:

looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do i

have

Quoted message said:

of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know alot

of

Quoted message said:

you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this. It annoys me cause I see
this guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like me

now)

Quoted message said:

but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

flat and saggy with a crease at the bottom.

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but

that

Quoted message said:

does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it slowly

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the skin can tighten?? I have been offered modeling work a few times but

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have no confidence, and i know that when they see my upper body ill be laughed at :-(

Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to

improve

Quoted message said:

their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young guys,

not

Quoted message said:

a middle aged man.

Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to

understand

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

how much this worrys me.

Worried guy.

GR8 attitude Mette :-) From one mother to another ;-) Vanessa In OZ :-) Overall (Was 273- Current
214- Goal 160 to 140)

"Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
I am 26. I am a woman. I had a baby 5 years ago and I lost 50 lbs. Now, my loose belly skin will
probably always be there. When I weighed 97 pounds it was like a little loose bag of skin hanging
off my stomach (not to mention the two flat socks with a dime in each I was carrying around for
breasts). Now I have gained 20 lbs since then I am now at 118 and voila: my breast are completely
full and my tummy is not loose anymore. On the other hand: my belly is now sticking out, I lost my
waiste and I can't fit into my pants.

I feel I have the choice between breasts & tight belly skin and being thin. Not an easy choice. I am
opting for a middle ground at 108 lbs.

My point is: Since you are a guy and your skin has not strecthed from here to eternity due to
pregnancy, it will probably bounce back over time - especially if you start building a whole lot of
muscle. But we must realize that we don't all get to be on the cover of "Sport Illustrated" although
we are now slim and fit. Because our bodies have taken a toll when we were overweight and it shows.
But don't worry - life shows - this is life.

:o)

Mette - who hardly notices her saggy skin or stretchmarks anylonger...

Worried21 said:

Thank you for your advice and kind words.

Sorry I was a bit harsh. Dietting drastically loses muscle as well as fat. It is possible to get the
muscle back but it will take time and determination. The skin will adjust too. But it all takes
time. Get back in the gym and let us know how you get on.

Ray
--
rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

I have found that eating sensibly has worked. I don't follow a "diet" per-say. I work out with
weights 3 times a week and I eat when I'm hungry, stop when I'm full, and eat what I crave. I have
found I don't eat as much since starting this, I tend to crave "good" foods--fruit, vegi's, etc...--
and I'm continuing to lose about 1-2 pounds a week. The nice thing about this is I won't have to
worry about whether or not eating a candy bar will cause me to gain weight--I don't even want a
whole candy bar anymore, usually half will get me by for the day or two!!! It may take me longer to
reach my goal but it's worth it to me to have new eating habits and be able to eat what I want!!!

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)

"Worried21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I do need a good diet. I had irregular sleeping pattersn due to funny working times and school
times. Regardless today I am starting. No

smoking,

Quoted message said:

no drinking (apart from JD!), lots of water (no coke). No crisps, no chocolate.

I need to try and find out what to eat now for a well balanced diet. I

know

Quoted message said:

that when i eat properly the weight falls off me, which would be helpful

to

Quoted message said:

get rid of this fatty belly i have.

Obvious stuff is easy, no fatty foods, no fast foods, no sugery drinks

etc.

Quoted message said:

I guess im safe to stick to salad's, pasta, potatoes, fish ermmmmm and

other

Quoted message said:

stuff that is common sense that its good to eat!

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

first of all, what is done is done, so start from where you are and

don't

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Quoted message said:

punish yourself for the past, it accomplishes not one thing. I am not

sure

Quoted message said:

how long it has been since you have lost your weight but it can take up

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

two years to have your skin adjust. My advice to you is to learn how to

eat

Quoted message said:

properly now so you do not regain the weight and have to go through it

all

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

gain. You might want to MAKE yourself take some of that modeling work

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you can save in case the skin does not shrink and you have to seek

medical

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

alternatives. We all have confidence issues, we all are insecure

because

Quoted message said:

we

Quoted message said:

have lost weight and have a different body from what we are used to and

we

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all get through it eating healthy or we regain, I am pulling for you to learn to eat properly
and stay thin and get fit, Good luck, Lee Worried21 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look

to

Quoted message said:

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i

apologise,

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i

was

Quoted message said:

12

Quoted message said:

etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight till i was 18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my

weight

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

issue. Especially since girls said i had a really nice face, but my

body

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was

Quoted message said:

too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due to

lots

Quoted message said:

of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight

issue.

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i mean,

rye

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

crackers) a day and lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

went from 15 stone to about 10. I thought I looked fat still but my

friend

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit of

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

pigeon chest so it looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet

tall

Quoted message said:

10

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

stone wasnt enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost all

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight. The reason i thought i was still fat was cause on my stomach i

had

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just loose skin. This

made

Quoted message said:

me feel even worse, i cried all the time worrying that I have ruined

my

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

body. My bum is flat, its just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of a

50

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

y/o

Quoted message said:

man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick. Im

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

being big headed but im very good looking, i know i am and people dont understand why i have
no confidence.

Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about

looks

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do i

have

Quoted message said:

of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know

alot

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of

Quoted message said:

you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this.

It

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

annoys me cause I see this guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like

me

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

now)

Quoted message said:

but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

flat and saggy with a crease at the bottom.

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but

that

Quoted message said:

does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it

slowly

Quoted message said:

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the skin can tighten?? I have been offered modeling work a few times

but

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have no confidence, and i know that when they see my upper body ill be laughed at :-(

Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to

improve

Quoted message said:

their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young

guys,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not

Quoted message said:

a middle aged man.

Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to

understand

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

how much this worrys me.

Worried guy.

I am gonna criticize you just a bit, hope it doesn't offend you, you sound
like I used to ... lots of changes in your post. That is good that you have
identified things that need to be changed, and working on them is great too,
but remember it is NOT all or nothing. I am trying to say don't get trapped
by having to be perfect. If you have identified where you need to change
then work on the things just don't quit if you can't do them all at once,
you can read and learn what the best food plan is for you and writing down
what you eat as you eat it is the best way to figure out what you are
currently doing and where you need to make changes, again, good luck, Lee
Worried21 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I do need a good diet. I had irregular sleeping pattersn due to funny working times and school
times. Regardless today I am starting. No

smoking,

Quoted message said:

no drinking (apart from JD!), lots of water (no coke). No crisps, no chocolate.

I need to try and find out what to eat now for a well balanced diet. I

know

Quoted message said:

that when i eat properly the weight falls off me, which would be helpful

to

Quoted message said:

get rid of this fatty belly i have.

Obvious stuff is easy, no fatty foods, no fast foods, no sugery drinks

etc.

Quoted message said:

I guess im safe to stick to salad's, pasta, potatoes, fish ermmmmm and

other

Quoted message said:

stuff that is common sense that its good to eat!

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

first of all, what is done is done, so start from where you are and

don't

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

punish yourself for the past, it accomplishes not one thing. I am not

sure

Quoted message said:

how long it has been since you have lost your weight but it can take up

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

two years to have your skin adjust. My advice to you is to learn how to

eat

Quoted message said:

properly now so you do not regain the weight and have to go through it

all

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

gain. You might want to MAKE yourself take some of that modeling work

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you can save in case the skin does not shrink and you have to seek

medical

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

alternatives. We all have confidence issues, we all are insecure

because

Quoted message said:

we

Quoted message said:

have lost weight and have a different body from what we are used to and

we

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all get through it eating healthy or we regain, I am pulling for you to learn to eat properly
and stay thin and get fit, Good luck, Lee Worried21 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look

to

Quoted message said:

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the best place to ask.

Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i

apologise,

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

tend to ramble on alot)

Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12 i

was

Quoted message said:

12

Quoted message said:

etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed at

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight till i was 18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my

weight

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

issue. Especially since girls said i had a really nice face, but my

body

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was

Quoted message said:

too fat (kids are cruel!!).

Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due to

lots

Quoted message said:

of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight

issue.

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i mean,

rye

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

crackers) a day and lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

went from 15 stone to about 10. I thought I looked fat still but my

friend

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit of

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

pigeon chest so it looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet

tall

Quoted message said:

10

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

stone wasnt enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost all

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight. The reason i thought i was still fat was cause on my stomach i

had

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just loose skin. This

made

Quoted message said:

me feel even worse, i cried all the time worrying that I have ruined

my

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

body. My bum is flat, its just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of a

50

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

y/o

Quoted message said:

man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick. Im

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

being big headed but im very good looking, i know i am and people dont understand why i have
no confidence.

Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about

looks

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do i

have

Quoted message said:

of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know

alot

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of

Quoted message said:

you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this.

It

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

annoys me cause I see this guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like

me

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

now)

Quoted message said:

but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

flat and saggy with a crease at the bottom.

So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle but

that

Quoted message said:

does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it

slowly

Quoted message said:

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the skin can tighten?? I have been offered modeling work a few times

but

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have no confidence, and i know that when they see my upper body ill be laughed at :-(

Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to

improve

Quoted message said:

their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young

guys,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not

Quoted message said:

a middle aged man.

Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to

understand

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

how much this worrys me.

Worried guy.

You were a bit harsh but that helps me, motivation. I can be a lazy SOB sometimes and i need a kick
upthe rear!

I must confess, I think my stomach is not all skin. I got so used to it being skin i now put my
belly down to skin, i didnt realise that in the past year it has tightened and the reason its still
there is cause im a little fat.... I got so used to it being loose and flabby, i didnt realise that
its quite solid now so it must be fat :-\ Also realise that I lost all my muscle when i did my big
diet. Probably best to cut before i bulk, get rid of the belly so the muscle can show easily.

"ray miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Worried21 said:

Thank you for your advice and kind words.

Sorry I was a bit harsh. Dietting drastically loses muscle as well as fat. It is possible to get
the muscle back but it will take time and determination. The skin will adjust too. But it all
takes time. Get back in the gym and let us know how you get on.

Ray
--
rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

this is very sensible, Lee
Janice Kennish <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:BPiJb.31954$I07.84515@attbi_s53...

Quoted message said:

I have found that eating sensibly has worked. I don't follow a "diet" per-say. I work out with
weights 3 times a week and I eat when I'm

hungry,

Quoted message said:

stop when I'm full, and eat what I crave. I have found I don't eat as

much

Quoted message said:

since starting this, I tend to crave "good" foods--fruit, vegi's, etc...--and I'm continuing to
lose about 1-2 pounds a week. The nice

thing

Quoted message said:

about this is I won't have to worry about whether or not eating a candy

bar

Quoted message said:

will cause me to gain weight--I don't even want a whole candy bar anymore, usually half will get
me by for the day or two!!! It may take me longer

to

Quoted message said:

reach my goal but it's worth it to me to have new eating habits and be

able

Quoted message said:

to eat what I want!!!

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)

"Worried21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I do need a good diet. I had irregular sleeping pattersn due to funny working times and school
times. Regardless today I am starting. No

smoking,

Quoted message said:

no drinking (apart from JD!), lots of water (no coke). No crisps, no chocolate.

I need to try and find out what to eat now for a well balanced diet. I

know

Quoted message said:

that when i eat properly the weight falls off me, which would be helpful

to

Quoted message said:

get rid of this fatty belly i have.

Obvious stuff is easy, no fatty foods, no fast foods, no sugery drinks

etc.

Quoted message said:

I guess im safe to stick to salad's, pasta, potatoes, fish ermmmmm and

other

Quoted message said:

stuff that is common sense that its good to eat!

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

first of all, what is done is done, so start from where you are and

don't

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

punish yourself for the past, it accomplishes not one thing. I am not

sure

Quoted message said:

how long it has been since you have lost your weight but it can take

up

Quoted message said:

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

two years to have your skin adjust. My advice to you is to learn how

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

eat

Quoted message said:

properly now so you do not regain the weight and have to go through it

all

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

gain. You might want to MAKE yourself take some of that modeling work

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you can save in case the skin does not shrink and you have to seek

medical

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

alternatives. We all have confidence issues, we all are insecure

because

Quoted message said:

we

Quoted message said:

have lost weight and have a different body from what we are used to

and

Quoted message said:

we

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all get through it eating healthy or we regain, I am pulling for you

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

learn to eat properly and stay thin and get fit, Good luck, Lee Worried21 <[email hidden]>
wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look

to

Quoted message said:

be

Quoted message said:

> the best place to ask.
>
> Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i

apologise,

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

> tend to ramble on alot)
>
> Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was

Quoted message said:

12
> etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed

at

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

this

Quoted message said:

> weight till i was 18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my

weight

Quoted message said:

> issue. Especially since girls said i had a really nice face, but my

body

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was
> too fat (kids are cruel!!).
>
> Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lots
> of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight

issue.

Quoted message said:

I
> hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i

mean,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

rye

Quoted message said:

> crackers) a day and lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> went from 15 stone to about 10. I thought I looked fat still but my

friend

Quoted message said:

> said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit

of

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> pigeon chest so it looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet

tall

Quoted message said:

10

Quoted message said:

> stone wasnt enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost

all

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the

Quoted message said:

> weight. The reason i thought i was still fat was cause on my stomach

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

had

Quoted message said:

> excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just loose skin.

This

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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made
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> body. My bum is flat, its just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of

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50

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y/o
> man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick.

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not

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> being big headed but im very good looking, i know i am and people

dont

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> understand why i have no confidence.
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> Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about

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> looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do

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> of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know

alot

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of
> you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this.

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> annoys me cause I see this guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like

me

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now)
> but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is

just

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> flat and saggy with a crease at the bottom.
>
> So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle

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> does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it

slowly

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so

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> the skin can tighten?? I have been offered modeling work a few times

but

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i

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> have no confidence, and i know that when they see my upper body ill

be

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> laughed at :-(
>
> Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to
improve
> their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young

guys,

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not
> a middle aged man.
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> Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to

understand

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> how much this worrys me.
>
> Worried guy.
>
>

i have iregular sleeping patterns as well. I work mid nights actually from 11 - 7 in the morning. i
usually wgo to bed at about 8 maybe 9 sometimes later if we have something to do. I eat breakfast no
matter what time a day it is that i wake up. then i usually go back to bed for another couple of hrs
and then when i wake up the next time i have my lunch. and then the pattern continues. I treat my
working nights as if i was eating regular during the day. if i wasn't working nights.If that makes
any sence. i get my exercise at work because i work at tim hortons. and i am running constently,
also i walk to and from work, and take the stairs to my apartment. i try to go for walks when i can.
the weather however has been bad the last couple of days. snow storm one day, and freezing rain
today. hoping the weather gets better soon so i can get out and do my walking again. but even though
my days are all mixed up because of my night shift. but i don't let that stop me from trying to lose
the weight that i want to lose. Anyway, don't give up keep working on it and you will get to where
you want to be it just takes time.

Angie "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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I am gonna criticize you just a bit, hope it doesn't offend you, you sound like I used to ... lots
of changes in your post. That is good that you

have

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identified things that need to be changed, and working on them is great

too,

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but remember it is NOT all or nothing. I am trying to say don't get

trapped

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by having to be perfect. If you have identified where you need to change then work on the things
just don't quit if you can't do them all at once, you can read and learn what the best food plan
is for you and writing down what you eat as you eat it is the best way to figure out what you are
currently doing and where you need to make changes, again, good luck, Lee Worried21
<[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I do need a good diet. I had irregular sleeping pattersn due to funny working times and school
times. Regardless today I am starting. No

smoking,

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no drinking (apart from JD!), lots of water (no coke). No crisps, no chocolate.

I need to try and find out what to eat now for a well balanced diet. I

know

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that when i eat properly the weight falls off me, which would be helpful

to

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get rid of this fatty belly i have.

Obvious stuff is easy, no fatty foods, no fast foods, no sugery drinks

etc.

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I guess im safe to stick to salad's, pasta, potatoes, fish ermmmmm and

other

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stuff that is common sense that its good to eat!

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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first of all, what is done is done, so start from where you are and

don't

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punish yourself for the past, it accomplishes not one thing. I am not

sure

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how long it has been since you have lost your weight but it can take

up

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to

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two years to have your skin adjust. My advice to you is to learn how

to

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eat

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properly now so you do not regain the weight and have to go through it

all

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gain. You might want to MAKE yourself take some of that modeling work

so

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you can save in case the skin does not shrink and you have to seek

medical

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alternatives. We all have confidence issues, we all are insecure

because

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we

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have lost weight and have a different body from what we are used to

and

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we

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all get through it eating healthy or we regain, I am pulling for you

to

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learn to eat properly and stay thin and get fit, Good luck, Lee Worried21 <[email hidden]>
wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> Hi, I've got alot of questions about stuff and these newsgroups look

to

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be

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> the best place to ask.
>
> Basically the problem is this. (this is a very long post so i

apologise,

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> tend to ramble on alot)
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> Im 21 and I weigh 11.5 stone. When i was 11 i weighed 11, at age 12

i

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> etc. this carried on until I was 15 and weighed 15 stone, i stayed

at

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> weight till i was 18/19. I was teased alot at school and i hated my

weight

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> issue. Especially since girls said i had a really nice face, but my

body

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was
> too fat (kids are cruel!!).
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> Around 19 years old I had a big breakdown. I was very depressed due

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lots
> of problems in my life and in my past, one of which being my weight

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I
> hardly ate. I had a few 'ryevetas' (cant spell it, u know what i

mean,

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rye

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> crackers) a day and lots of water. thats it. I did this for 4 months

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> went from 15 stone to about 10. I thought I looked fat still but my

friend

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> said i was too thin and u could see my chest too much (i have a bit

of

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> pigeon chest so it looked bad). I eventually agreed that at 6 feet

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10

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> stone wasnt enough. Regardless I was gloriously happy to have lost

all

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> weight. The reason i thought i was still fat was cause on my stomach

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had

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> excess skin, which i presumed to be fat, but its just loose skin.

This

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made
> me feel even worse, i cried all the time worrying that I have ruined

my

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> body. My bum is flat, its just saggy skin. It looks like the bum of

a

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50

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y/o
> man, not a 21 y/o. Its just handfulls of skin and it makes me sick.

Im

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not

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> being big headed but im very good looking, i know i am and people

dont

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> understand why i have no confidence.
>
> Its hard cause im in drama school and this world is so much about

looks

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and
> looking good, especially in the entertainment business. What hope do

i

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have
> of been a good lookin actor guy with this messed up body :-( I know

alot

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of
> you will say its my own fault and I ruined my body, but i know this.

It

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> annoys me cause I see this guy in my class and hes a bit podgy (like

me

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now)
> but his bum is all round and full and id adore to have that, mine is

just

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> flat and saggy with a crease at the bottom.
>
> So I want to know what to do. Ive been to the gym and built muscle

but

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that
> does not clear it away. Should I put weight back on then lose it

slowly

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so

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> the skin can tighten?? I have been offered modeling work a few times

but

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i

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> have no confidence, and i know that when they see my upper body ill

be

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> laughed at :-(
>
> Reading this i sound vain, i am in a way, but everyone who wants to
improve
> their look is vain in a way. I just want to look like other young

guys,

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not
> a middle aged man.
>
> Thank you for reading this and before you judge me try hard to

understand

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> how much this worrys me.
>
> Worried guy.
>
>

Well look who 's here... hi Vanessa, how have you been ? Great to see you back!
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/100.2/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
134.1/100.3/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds NYNY 227.3/220.9/214

"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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GR8 attitude Mette :-) From one mother to another ;-) Vanessa In OZ :-) Overall (Was 273- Current
214- Goal 160 to 140)

"Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]... I am 26. I am a woman. I had a baby 5
years ago and I lost 50 lbs. Now, my loose belly skin will probably always be there. When I
weighed 97 pounds

it

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was like a little loose bag of skin hanging off my stomach (not to mention the two flat socks with
a dime in each I was carrying around for breasts). Now I have gained 20 lbs since then I am now at
118 and voila: my breast

are

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completely full and my tummy is not loose anymore. On the other hand: my belly is now sticking
out, I lost my waiste and I can't fit into my pants.

I feel I have the choice between breasts & tight belly skin and being

thin.

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Not an easy choice. I am opting for a middle ground at 108 lbs.

My point is: Since you are a guy and your skin has not strecthed from here to eternity due to
pregnancy, it will probably bounce back over time - especially if you start building a whole lot
of muscle. But we must realize that we don't all get to be on the cover of "Sport Illustrated"
although we are now slim and fit. Because our bodies have

taken

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a toll when we were overweight and it shows. But don't worry - life

shows -

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this is life.

:o)

Mette - who hardly notices her saggy skin or stretchmarks anylonger...