Pepper Spray mounting

Howdy folks!

I'd be interested in how others have done it too. In my situation where one dog in particular would
just not leave us alone (my 10 yr old daughter and
I) when riding, we ended up buying HALT from the local bike shop. The guys at the bike shop said
to clip it onto one of the brake cable sheaths up in the handlebars, but that doesn't seem to
be a really decent solution. Any thoughts out there? I'd be interested in ideas for my bike
(Tour Easy SS
II) and my wife's bike (EZ-1 Lite).

--
"Sea" ya!
--Lars S. Mulford
"You can find evil anywhere you look.
The question is, why are you looking?"

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Quoted message said:

Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an
upright position without at least one hand on the handlebar. Well,
maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a spray that
looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to
mount it. I don't want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme
I want to be able to grab it without fumbling, and deploy it quickly

Howdy folks!

I'd be interested in how others have done it too. In my situation where one dog in particular would
just not leave us alone (my 10 yr old daughter and
I) when riding, we ended up buying HALT from the local bike shop. The guys at the bike shop said
to clip it onto one of the brake cable sheaths up in the handlebars, but that doesn't seem to
be a really decent solution. Any thoughts out there? I'd be interested in ideas for my bike
(Tour Easy SS
II) and my wife's bike (EZ-1 Lite).

--
"Sea" ya!
--Lars S. Mulford
"You can find evil anywhere you look.
The question is, why are you looking?"

"GeoB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an
upright position without at least one hand on the handlebar. Well,
maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a spray that
looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to
mount it. I don't want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme
I want to be able to grab it without fumbling, and deploy it quickly

Nasbar sells HALT and also has a clip on handlebar mount. On side clips to
handlebar and the spray bottle clips to other end. Works fine ,I only had
the bottle pop out once when I hit a very large bump.
Ben fox
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I had a really lovely ride in the country last weekend. Took a route that I had never been on
before, even in a car. Lots to see, people to wave at, etc. Tractors at work, chainsaws, Watusi
cattle. And no dogs attacked me. Occasionally, on my work commute, there is a pitbull with Rabies
whose massive jowls (spraying putrid mucus) are as high as my face, who gallumphs along beside me
describing to me how he is going to rip my limbs off... but aside from that, no trouble yet. I did
buy a pepper spray for my country rides, knowing that angry farm dogs are more fixed in their
purpose than their city counterparts. I think more experienced at dismembering carcasses also.

Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an upright position without at
least one hand on the handlebar. Well, maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a
spray that looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to mount it. I don't
want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme I want to be able to grab it without fumbling,
and deploy it quickly.

I am actively soliciting ideas and suggestions on how to do this. *My* ideas are too weird.. I was
trying to figger a way to mount it with a section of bungee cord threaded inside the frame, so
that it would hold the spray container up against a frame hole in plain view. I thought that might
allow me to [censored]-stretch-aim-fire-follow-through in one easy motion. Perhaps a small pouch
depending from the bar. Maybe two sprays mounted in the rear pointing outward with some kind of
remote activation on the handle bars...[1] I also have some industrial strength velcro tape that
may offer some alternatives. Maybe I could fasten it to my windbreaker or something with velcro.
If a mtn lion should get me off of my bike and start dragging me into the brush for a repast maybe
that way I'd have some recourse [2].

[1] I was riding my bike through a high-density neighborhood, and a hood (one of a group of
similar hoods) shouted at me. I ignored it and it came running after me like it was going to
knock me off of the bike. In a case like this a similar setup would make it a matter of a
single movement to get its attention. And visualize this.. after such a incident a fella gets
his fellow benters together, all with similar setups. An entire phalanx of 'bents, side-by-
side, goes through the the infected area, and in one quick pass cleans it out.

[2] My wife and I were at a conference. They were shutting down for the evening, and said "The
dining room will be open until 11 PM for snacks, after that you will have no recourse". So
sometimes we will ask the other, "Do we have any recourse on hand? I need a snack". But since
we have a 12-yer-old daughter we generally are left with no recourse.

I have seen it clipped to a riders shorts, with the tube on the outside. He has emptied about 4
tubes on dogs, and got bit at least 5 times

Lars S. Mulford said:

Howdy folks!

I'd be interested in how others have done it too. In my situation where one dog in particular
would just not leave us alone (my 10 yr old daughter and
I) when riding, we ended up buying HALT from the local bike shop. The guys at the bike shop said
to clip it onto one of the brake cable sheaths up in the handlebars, but that doesn't seem to
be a really decent solution. Any thoughts out there? I'd be interested in ideas for my bike
(Tour Easy SS
XL) and my wife's bike (EZ-1 Lite).

--
"Sea" ya! --Lars S. Mulford "You can find evil anywhere you look. The question is, why are you
looking?"

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Quoted message said:

Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an upright position without at
least one hand on the handlebar. Well, maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a
spray that looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to mount it. I
don't want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme I want to be able to grab it without
fumbling, and deploy it quickly

I gave up on halt when I emptied a new can directly into the faces of 2 dogs who were apparently
attempting to bite my VRex seat cushion they were so close. Didn't faze 'em. Actually it seemed to
encourage 'em. I'm a firm believer in lemon juice now. bill g

Mike Schwab said:

I have seen it clipped to a riders shorts, with the tube on the outside. He has emptied about 4
tubes on dogs, and got bit at least 5 times

You are right. My first can bounced off when I hit a pothole. It got run
over by the garbage truck following me. I figure it made it smell better
and spiced up the load. 🙂

Lars S. Mulford said:

Howdy folks!

I'd be interested in how others have done it too. In my situation where one dog in particular
would just not leave us alone (my 10 yr old daughter and
I) when riding, we ended up buying HALT from the local bike shop. The guys at the bike shop said
to clip it onto one of the brake cable sheaths up in the handlebars, but that doesn't seem to
be a really decent solution. Any thoughts out there? I'd be interested in ideas for my bike
(Tour Easy SS
XL) and my wife's bike (EZ-1 Lite).

--
"Sea" ya! --Lars S. Mulford "You can find evil anywhere you look. The question is, why are you
looking?"

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Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an upright position without at
least one hand on the handlebar. Well, maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a
spray that looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to mount it. I don't
want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme I want to be able to grab it without fumbling,
and deploy it quickly

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I bought some pepper spray (not Halt, but stronger stuff from the web) along with a belt holster for
it. I attached the holster to the upright part of the handlebar (Tour Easy) with two of those
plastic self locking strips electricians use. It holds well, and I can pull the can from the holster
whenever I want. After I bought mine, the dog that chased me has not been seen again.

"Lars S. Mulford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Howdy folks!

I'd be interested in how others have done it too. In my situation

where one

Quoted message said:

dog in particular would just not leave us alone (my 10 yr old

daughter and

Quoted message said:

I) when riding, we ended up buying HALT from the local bike shop.

The guys

Quoted message said:

at the bike shop said to clip it onto one of the brake cable sheaths

up in

Quoted message said:

the handlebars, but that doesn't seem to be a really decent

solution. Any

Quoted message said:

thoughts out there? I'd be interested in ideas for my bike (Tour

Easy SS

Quoted message said:

XL) and my wife's bike (EZ-1 Lite).

--
"Sea" ya! --Lars S. Mulford

Quoted message said:

He has emptied about 4 tubes on dogs, and got bit at least 5 times

I guess I need an assist in interpreting this data. Does this fella feel that pepper spray caused
the bites? Or did he need a total of 9 pepper spray tubes intead of 4?

I am inexperienced in this topic. A fella I know sprays in front of the pursuing dog, so that it
runs through the spray. Perhaps this approach seems less like an attack to the dog? I wonder. But
I'm not ready to do an imperical analysis with my own body as bait.

Forget spray. Bit twice using spray. Aim well, observe what is behind and to either side of
offender, fire .22cal short, problem solved for both yourself and others.

"GeoB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I had a really lovely ride in the country last weekend. Took a route that I had never been on
before, even in a car. Lots to see, people to wave at, etc. Tractors at work, chainsaws, Watusi
cattle. And no dogs attacked me. Occasionally, on my work commute, there is a pitbull with Rabies
whose massive jowls (spraying putrid mucus) are as high as my face, who gallumphs along beside me
describing to me how he is going to rip my limbs off... but aside from that, no trouble yet. I did
buy a pepper spray for my country rides, knowing that angry farm dogs are more fixed in their
purpose than their city counterparts. I think more experienced at dismembering carcasses also.

Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an upright position without at
least one hand on the handlebar. Well, maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a
spray that looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to mount it. I don't
want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme I want to be able to grab it without fumbling,
and deploy it quickly.

I am actively soliciting ideas and suggestions on how to do this. *My* ideas are too weird.. I was
trying to figger a way to mount it with a section of bungee cord threaded inside the frame, so
that it would hold the spray container up against a frame hole in plain view. I thought that might
allow me to [censored]-stretch-aim-fire-follow-through in one easy motion. Perhaps a small pouch
depending from the bar. Maybe two sprays mounted in the rear pointing outward with some kind of
remote activation on the handle bars...[1] I also have some industrial strength velcro tape that
may offer some alternatives. Maybe I could fasten it to my windbreaker or something with velcro.
If a mtn lion should get me off of my bike and start dragging me into the brush for a repast maybe
that way I'd have some recourse [2].

[1] I was riding my bike through a high-density neighborhood, and a hood (one of a group of
similar hoods) shouted at me. I ignored it and it came running after me like it was going to
knock me off of the bike. In a case like this a similar setup would make it a matter of a
single movement to get its attention. And visualize this.. after such a incident a fella gets
his fellow benters together, all with similar setups. An entire phalanx of 'bents, side-by-
side, goes through the the infected area, and in one quick pass cleans it out.

[2] My wife and I were at a conference. They were shutting down for the evening, and said "The
dining room will be open until 11 PM for snacks, after that you will have no recourse". So
sometimes we will ask the other, "Do we have any recourse on hand? I need a snack". But since
we have a 12-yer-old daughter we generally are left with no recourse.

Try a flashlight holder like this one:

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You'll have to squeeze the tabs together a little bit (easy to do) to grasp the smaller can, but it
holds the can tight (even over ruts and bumps) and it's easy to yank the can out of the clip with
one hand when you need it. Comes in your choice of three colors: black, white, or silver.

I have two of these on each of my 'bents. One holds a can of "dog repellent" (pepper spray), the
other holds a small and LOUD marine air horn I bought at Wal-Mart for about 10 bucks.

If talking to/shouting at the dog doesn't work, the air horn is my next line of dog defense -- a
good blast aimed at the dog's head usually does the trick and the dog backs off. The "dog repellent"
is for when the air horn doesn't work!

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I had a really lovely ride in the country last weekend. Took a route that I had never been on
before, even in a car. Lots to see, people to wave at, etc. Tractors at work, chainsaws, Watusi
cattle. And no dogs attacked me. Occasionally, on my work commute, there is a pitbull with Rabies
whose massive jowls (spraying putrid mucus) are as high as my face, who gallumphs along beside me
describing to me how he is going to rip my limbs off... but aside from that, no trouble yet. I did
buy a pepper spray for my country rides, knowing that angry farm dogs are more fixed in their
purpose than their city counterparts. I think more experienced at dismembering carcasses also.

Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an upright position without at
least one hand on the handlebar. Well, maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a
spray that looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to mount it. I don't
want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme I want to be able to grab it without fumbling,
and deploy it quickly.

I am actively soliciting ideas and suggestions on how to do this. *My* ideas are too weird.. I was
trying to figger a way to mount it with a section of bungee cord threaded inside the frame, so
that it would hold the spray container up against a frame hole in plain view. I thought that might
allow me to [censored]-stretch-aim-fire-follow-through in one easy motion. Perhaps a small pouch
depending from the bar. Maybe two sprays mounted in the rear pointing outward with some kind of
remote activation on the handle bars...[1] I also have some industrial strength velcro tape that
may offer some alternatives. Maybe I could fasten it to my windbreaker or something with velcro.
If a mtn lion should get me off of my bike and start dragging me into the brush for a repast maybe
that way I'd have some recourse [2].

[1] I was riding my bike through a high-density neighborhood, and a hood (one of a group of
similar hoods) shouted at me. I ignored it and it came running after me like it was going to
knock me off of the bike. In a case like this a similar setup would make it a matter of a
single movement to get its attention. And visualize this.. after such a incident a fella gets
his fellow benters together, all with similar setups. An entire phalanx of 'bents, side-by-
side, goes through the the infected area, and in one quick pass cleans it out.

[2] My wife and I were at a conference. They were shutting down for the evening, and said "The
dining room will be open until 11 PM for snacks, after that you will have no recourse". So
sometimes we will ask the other, "Do we have any recourse on hand? I need a snack". But since
we have a 12-yer-old daughter we generally are left with no recourse.

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I gave up on halt when I emptied a new can directly into the faces of 2 dogs who were apparently
attempting to bite my VRex seat cushion they were so close. Didn't faze 'em. Actually it seemed to
encourage 'em. I'm a firm believer in lemon juice now. bill g

I don't use a spray anymore because 1)I have sprayed it at dogs that don't seem to mind it 2) had
the wind against me 3)have run out of spray at the most inopportune time. I have repulsed more
dogs by simply spraying my water bottle at them, but on a hot Texas day I really hate to part
with the water. So I carry an arrow that I use like a riding crop. Electrical tape on the
feathered end provides a good grip. Most dogs shy away from the sight of it, but a few have
gotten close enough that I whacked 'em, and their yelps of pain far exceeded the crocodile tears
any pepper spray ever caused.

CyclePath said:

Forget spray. Bit twice using spray. Aim well, observe what is behind and to either side of
offender, fire .22cal short, problem solved for both yourself and others.

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Quoted message said:

I had a really lovely ride in the country last weekend. Took a route that I had never been on
before, even in a car. Lots to see, people to wave at, etc. Tractors at work, chainsaws, Watusi
cattle. And no dogs attacked me. Occasionally, on my work commute, there is a pitbull with Rabies
whose massive jowls (spraying putrid mucus) are as high as my face, who gallumphs along beside me
describing to me how he is going to rip my limbs off... but aside from that, no trouble yet. I did
buy a pepper spray for my country rides, knowing that angry farm dogs are more fixed in their
purpose than their city counterparts. I think more experienced at dismembering carcasses also.

Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an upright position without at
least one hand on the handlebar. Well, maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a
spray that looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to mount it. I don't
want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme I want to be able to grab it without fumbling,
and deploy it quickly.

I am actively soliciting ideas and suggestions on how to do this. *My* ideas are too weird.. I was
trying to figger a way to mount it with a section of bungee cord threaded inside the frame, so
that it would hold the spray container up against a frame hole in plain view. I thought that might
allow me to [censored]-stretch-aim-fire-follow-through in one easy motion. Perhaps a small pouch
depending from the bar. Maybe two sprays mounted in the rear pointing outward with some kind of
remote activation on the handle bars...[1] I also have some industrial strength velcro tape that
may offer some alternatives. Maybe I could fasten it to my windbreaker or something with velcro.
If a mtn lion should get me off of my bike and start dragging me into the brush for a repast maybe
that way I'd have some recourse [2].

[1] I was riding my bike through a high-density neighborhood, and a hood (one of a group of
similar hoods) shouted at me. I ignored it and it came running after me like it was going to
knock me off of the bike. In a case like this a similar setup would make it a matter of a
single movement to get its attention. And visualize this.. after such a incident a fella gets
his fellow benters together, all with similar setups. An entire phalanx of 'bents, side-by-
side, goes through the the infected area, and in one quick pass cleans it out.

[2] My wife and I were at a conference. They were shutting down for the evening, and said "The
dining room will be open until 11 PM for snacks, after that you will have no recourse". So
sometimes we will ask the other, "Do we have any recourse on hand? I need a snack". But since
we have a 12-yer-old daughter we generally are left with no recourse.

Toss them a piece of bacon soaked in Antifreeze and they won't be there next time you go by. However
you may be in jail and not able to ride by anyway. Don't try this at home. Just kidding!!

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Bit twice using spray.

I'd like to hear more details on this. What kind of situation? What kinda dog? Bitten how bad? How
did they respond to pepper spray?

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fire .22cal short

Love to, but a large pit bull won't even know he's hit by a .22 short. Oh, in the lungs it will
eventually kill him, but by then he's had lunch (me) had his nap, and chased several school kids. A
.22 Stinger, maybe yeah... That lil pellet would bounce offa his head, prolly. Yes, I have used
these successfully against neighborhood cats, but.. this pit bull is the real thing.

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I carry an arrow that I use like a riding crop. Electrical tape on the feathered end provides a
good grip.

I like this idea! But only as a last resort.

Maybe the dogs around here are a bit less vivious than their American counterparts, but so far I
only had to tell them off, without any recourse to violence. I just slow down, sit right up (instead
of lying on my back

Sorry, pushed a wrong button, so I'll start right over

Maybe the dogs around here are a bit less vicious than their American counterparts, but so far I
only had to tell them off, without any recourse to violence. I just slow down, sit right up (instead
of lying on my back, a very submissive posture, I'm now looking down on the dog in a dominant
manner), and say DOWN (or the local equivalent) in an authorative, stern and calm manner. This only
works if being harrassed by dogs doesn't scare you, but just pisses you off, but luckily you can
train yourself for that attitude. I used to be quite scared of dogs myself. If they won't back down,
you're now fully in your right to whack them with that arrow!

Mark van Gorkom.

Before you go using weapons or repellant on a persuing dog, acertain if that dog indeed has malicious intent, or just enjoying the fun of a chase. I am chased by dogs of all kinds all the time, and with rare exceptions, it is all fun on both our parts. That isn't to say I never encounter a malevolent animal, but none has ever succeeded in putting his teeth in me.
I find that if I keep the pedals turning, the dog running alongside is unable to bite a moving target. Twice that I can think of, I thwarted a particularly persistent dog with a bop on the head with a tire pump.
D.B.

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i wounder it the dog could smell the spray and knows better not to nessy with you ??

Michael Plog said:

I bought some pepper spray (not Halt, but stronger stuff from the web) along with a belt holster
for it. I attached the holster to the upright part of the handlebar (Tour Easy) with two of those
plastic self locking strips electricians use. It holds well, and I can pull the can from the
holster whenever I want. After I bought mine, the dog that chased me has not been seen again.

"Lars S. Mulford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Howdy folks!

I'd be interested in how others have done it too. In my situation

where one

Quoted message said:

dog in particular would just not leave us alone (my 10 yr old

daughter and

Quoted message said:

I) when riding, we ended up buying HALT from the local bike shop.

The guys

Quoted message said:

at the bike shop said to clip it onto one of the brake cable sheaths

up in

Quoted message said:

the handlebars, but that doesn't seem to be a really decent

solution. Any

Quoted message said:

thoughts out there? I'd be interested in ideas for my bike (Tour

Easy SS

Quoted message said:

XL) and my wife's bike (EZ-1 Lite).

--
"Sea" ya! --Lars S. Mulford

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part of the handlebar (Tour Easy) with two of those plastic self locking strips electricians use. It
holds well, and I can pull the can from the holster whenever I want. After I bought mine, the dog
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GeoB:

You know, after having read most of the comments in this thread I think there must be a proper
technique to the use of pepper spray, and that it therefore, like the proper use of a handgun,
requires some sort of practice. Simply buying the stuff with the intent to use it probably isn't
enough. I'd suggest using some kind of similar sized spray can of an innoccous substance, focussing
on how and where to lay down a pattern of spray in various situations. Like any self-defense
technique, the proper method is probably not something that should simply be taken for granted. All
too often it seems as though that's the case, however.

As for mounting, I like the idea of using a bungee with some sort of holster. I should think finding
some way to mount it to the stem would be the best bet, or perhaps under the side of the seat. But
whatever you decide, make sure to practice with something other than the actual mace, and try the
mace itself at least once or twice to make sure there aren't any additional nuances to its use.

--
--Scott
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I had a really lovely ride in the country last weekend. Took a route
that I had never been on before, even in a car. Lots to see, people
to wave at, etc. Tractors at work, chainsaws, Watusi cattle. And no
dogs attacked me. Occasionally, on my work commute, there is a
pitbull with Rabies whose massive jowls (spraying putrid mucus) are as
high as my face, who gallumphs along beside me describing to me how he
is going to rip my limbs off... but aside from that, no trouble yet.
I did buy a pepper spray for my country rides, knowing that angry farm
dogs are more fixed in their purpose than their city counterparts. I
think more experienced at dismembering carcasses also.

Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an
upright position without at least one hand on the handlebar. Well,
maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a spray that
looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to
mount it. I don't want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme
I want to be able to grab it without fumbling, and deploy it quickly.

I am actively soliciting ideas and suggestions on how to do this.
*My* ideas are too weird.. I was trying to figger a way to mount it
with a section of bungee cord threaded inside the frame, so that it
would hold the spray container up against a frame hole in plain view.
I thought that might allow me to
[censored]-stretch-aim-fire-follow-through in one easy motion. Perhaps a
small pouch depending from the bar. Maybe two sprays mounted in the
rear pointing outward with some kind of remote activation on the
handle bars...[1] I also have some industrial strength velcro tape
that may offer some alternatives. Maybe I could fasten it to my
windbreaker or something with velcro. If a mtn lion should get me off
of my bike and start dragging me into the brush for a repast maybe
that way I'd have some recourse [2].

[1] I was riding my bike through a high-density neighborhood, and a
hood (one of a group of similar hoods) shouted at me. I ignored it
and it came running after me like it was going to knock me off of the
bike. In a case like this a similar setup would make it a matter of a
single movement to get its attention. And visualize this.. after such
a incident a fella gets his fellow benters together, all with similar
setups. An entire phalanx of 'bents, side-by-side, goes through the
the infected area, and in one quick pass cleans it out.

[2] My wife and I were at a conference. They were shutting down for
the evening, and said "The dining room will be open until 11 PM for
snacks, after that you will have no recourse". So sometimes we will
ask the other, "Do we have any recourse on hand? I need a snack".
But since we have a 12-yer-old daughter we generally are left with no
recourse.

CyclePath:

"Aim well, observe what is behind and to either side of offender, fire .22cal short, problem solved
for both yourself and others."

If you're going to carry a handgun don't bother with anything less than a 9mm. Even a .22lr
hollowpoint is a pretty anemic self-defense round to stop a charging animal, or bad human (which is
really a much greater threat). I'd be fairly reluctant to shoot a dog, unless it's one of the
"killer breeds" (Rotty or Pittbull, etc.) and looked serious. But it's nice to have the weapon as a
last resort.

--
--Scott
"CyclePath" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Forget spray.
Bit twice using spray.
Aim well, observe what is behind and to either side of offender, fire

.22cal

Quoted message said:

short, problem solved for both yourself and others.

"GeoB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I had a really lovely ride in the country last weekend. Took a route
that I had never been on before, even in a car. Lots to see, people
to wave at, etc. Tractors at work, chainsaws, Watusi cattle. And no
dogs attacked me. Occasionally, on my work commute, there is a
pitbull with Rabies whose massive jowls (spraying putrid mucus) are as
high as my face, who gallumphs along beside me describing to me how he
is going to rip my limbs off... but aside from that, no trouble yet.
I did buy a pepper spray for my country rides, knowing that angry farm
dogs are more fixed in their purpose than their city counterparts. I
think more experienced at dismembering carcasses also.

Anyway, I don't know about yours, but I can't ride my 'bent in an
upright position without at least one hand on the handlebar. Well,
maybe I can but I'm not ready to try it. So I bought a spray that
looks like it can be handled one-handed. Now I am considering how to
mount it. I don't want it to fall off. In a moment of gravest extreme
I want to be able to grab it without fumbling, and deploy it quickly.

I am actively soliciting ideas and suggestions on how to do this.
*My* ideas are too weird.. I was trying to figger a way to mount it
with a section of bungee cord threaded inside the frame, so that it
would hold the spray container up against a frame hole in plain view.
I thought that might allow me to
[censored]-stretch-aim-fire-follow-through in one easy motion. Perhaps a
small pouch depending from the bar. Maybe two sprays mounted in the
rear pointing outward with some kind of remote activation on the
handle bars...[1] I also have some industrial strength velcro tape
that may offer some alternatives. Maybe I could fasten it to my
windbreaker or something with velcro. If a mtn lion should get me off
of my bike and start dragging me into the brush for a repast maybe
that way I'd have some recourse [2].

[1] I was riding my bike through a high-density neighborhood, and a
hood (one of a group of similar hoods) shouted at me. I ignored it
and it came running after me like it was going to knock me off of the
bike. In a case like this a similar setup would make it a matter of a
single movement to get its attention. And visualize this.. after such
a incident a fella gets his fellow benters together, all with similar
setups. An entire phalanx of 'bents, side-by-side, goes through the
the infected area, and in one quick pass cleans it out.

[2] My wife and I were at a conference. They were shutting down for
the evening, and said "The dining room will be open until 11 PM for
snacks, after that you will have no recourse". So sometimes we will
ask the other, "Do we have any recourse on hand? I need a snack".
But since we have a 12-yer-old daughter we generally are left with no
recourse.