Trail, Feb 2004, p. 13, bottom right corner [Just landed on my doormat]
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In our December issue (on sale 10 November - 10 December), we ran an article ‘Do dead toes scare you?' featuring routes in the Lairig Ghru, and on Stac Pollaidh and Great Gable. Our aim was to highlight routes which would be challenging but without some of the potential hazards associated with big summits in the month during which the issue was current. We did not mean to imply that it does not snow in the Cairngorms in winter, that these routes never ice up, or that ice axe and crampons should not be carried whenever snow or ice is lying. However, we failed to make these points sufficiently clearly in the article, and we are happy to do so now.
I have to say people are being a bit nannyish about this . Presumably most readers had worked out perfectly well that it can snow in Scotland in the winter and aren't the dunces various people in this NG and elsewhere have made out. The point of the article - which I looked at in passing, though admit didn't pore through properly - was that there is stuff to do that might be less daunting than full-on Cairngorm 4000s or whatever. Perhaps the magazine didn't dumb down enough for some people's taste - but really !
I quite like the magazine and buy it occasionally as it suits my type of stuff better than proper climbing magazines - even though most of my hillwalking is somewhat more sporting than what the magazine generally covers.
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After the horse has bolted!
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Trail, Feb 2004, p. 13, bottom right corner [Just landed on my doormat]
Clarification
In our December issue (on sale 10 November - 10 December), we ran an article 'Do dead toes scare you?' featuring routes in the Lairig Ghru, and on Stac Pollaidh and Great Gable. Our aim was to highlight routes which would be challenging but without some of the potential hazards associated with big summits in the month during which the issue was current. We did not mean to imply that it does not snow in the Cairngorms in winter, that these routes never ice up, or that ice axe and crampons should not be carried whenever snow or ice is lying. However, we failed to make these points sufficiently clearly in the article, and we are happy to do so now.
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I have to say people are being a bit nannyish about this . Presumably most readers had worked out perfectly well that it can snow in Scotland in the winter and aren't the dunces various people in this NG and elsewhere have made out. The point of the article - which I looked at in passing, though admit didn't pore through properly - was that there is stuff to do that might be less daunting than full-on Cairngorm 4000s or whatever. Perhaps the magazine didn't dumb down enough for some people's taste - but really !
Seriously.. Is it possible for Trail wa*ker to dumb down any more?
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Seriously.. Is it possible for Trail wa*ker to dumb down any more?
Richard Webb
Are you calling me a [censored] or a walker? Seriously. Or are you trying to be funny?
Always called it that.. Its a climbing thing, bit of a convention. Nowt personal.
Richard Webb
I can't be arsed arguing over such a trivial matter, fact is, or should I say Google records previous statements from yourself as "Trail [censored]". I've been called worse, it doesnt' mean I should simply accept it. Don't assume everyone takes it with a pinch of salt. The point being is not that you called me a [censored], you implied I could not get any dumber. Remember? Be more careful when you fling your insults, some people don't like it. End of discussion.
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They call themselves youarsey.
And I coined that for them! Many years ago.
Really? Good for you Martin.
Yep - urw didn't exist then. An expedition was being organised - and I said how could I recognise any of them - as I did not want to walk round the pub saying to people 'urc' as it sounded like 'youarsey' - and risk being beaten up. It caught on from there. BTW the expedition never took place. However, a 'youarsey' T shirt was produced (I've still got mine) - and I have come across a couple of others wearing them since.
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"RJ Webb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4001a339.5104812@news- text.blueyonder.co.uk... > Seriously.. Is it possible for Trail wa*ker to dumb down any more? > > Richard Webb
Are you calling me a [censored] or a walker? Seriously. Or are you trying to be funny?
Always called it that.. Its a climbing thing, bit of a convention. Nowt personal.
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I can't be arsed arguing over such a trivial matter, fact is, or should I say Google records previous statements from yourself as "Trail [censored]". I've been called worse, it doesnt' mean I should simply accept it. Don't assume everyone takes it with a pinch of salt. The point being is not that you called me a [censored], you implied I could not get any dumber. Remember? Be more careful when you fling your insults, some people don't like it. End of discussion.
If you're not the editor or owner of "Trail Wa*ker" magazine you need to calm down and reread this thread. It's not about you.
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Be more careful when you fling your insults, some people don't like it.
Richard was not having a go at you, KRO. Trail gets a varied reaction and gets referred to as Trail Wa*ker quite frequently. Not so much in this forum, granted. Its derived from the fact that some of the more pleasant people in the dangly community like to refer to us as wa*kers ( we just call them c*nts ;-) ). Rich hardly qualifies as a prime agitator given his presence in both the wa*king and climbing groups.
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If you're not the editor or owner of "Trail Wa*ker" magazine you need to calm down and reread this thread. It's not about you.
You should stick to your own arguments, the OP called me a [censored], I disuputed that. How's that your problem?
No he didn't!
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might be less daunting than full-on Cairngorm 4000s or whatever. Perhaps the
magazine didn't dumb down enough for some people's taste - but really !
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Seriously.. Is it possible for Trail wa*ker to dumb down any more?
In reply to a post of yours. He was referring to the MAGAZINE. Admittedly he missed out the capitalisation of Wa*ker, but If he had meant you were a wa*ker he would have put a comma after Trail and another after wa*ker. Even then you are jumping to conclusions about what the asterisk stands for. -- Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
I can't be arsed arguing over such a trivial matter, fact is, or should I say Google records previous statements from yourself as "Trail [censored]". I've been called worse, it doesnt' mean I should simply accept it. Don't assume everyone takes it with a pinch of salt. The point being is not that you called me a [censored], you implied I could not get any dumber. Remember? Be more careful when you fling your insults, some people don't like it. End of discussion.
No it is not.....
Please beleive me...
It was not aimed at you or any corperal entity, honest! Again, I was refering to the old name - Trail Walker. As for the asterisk.. have a look on Uk.rec.Cl*mbing. You know its part of the culture on hill going groups, and somewhat fun for those of us who climb and walk. First time in 7 years I have ever heard anyone have a hard time over it.
Please think again about your inferences.. You wont make an enemy of me easily, so there is nothing to gain by ramping me up as foul mouthed troll (may be true mind). As someone involved in bothy maintainance, I have always had it in for that publication....
Now your accusatiuon would hold true in one case: You are Trail itself! But then, magazines dont post to newsgroups - do they?
