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  1. For my recent overnight stay on Y Garn, I used a Kelly kettle, and it worked very well for my brewup
    before the wind and rain got going. Thereafter, I didn't even try because it would have been no go
    in the conditions prevailing - see www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk/Pictures/8437_std.jpg for an
    imaginative view of the prologue.

    So two questions : What do we think is the best form of heating in the wind and rain? What food
    items are best taken along in case no brewup is possible?

    Pat

    Pat Bennett From Cheshire in the UK www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk

  2. Pat Bennett said:

    For my recent overnight stay on Y Garn, I used a Kelly kettle, and it worked very well for my
    brewup before the wind and rain got going. Thereafter, I didn't even try because it would have been
    no go in the conditions prevailing - see www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk/Pictures/8437_std.jpg for an
    imaginative view of the prologue.

    So two questions : What do we think is the best form of heating in the wind and rain? What food
    items are best taken along in case no brewup is possible?

    I do it in the tent - always have done unless I'm next to the car. I know it's not recommended, but
    there's no alternative in weather, imo.

    --
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    Please sponsor me for the London Marathon at: justgiving.comlondon2004

  3. Pat Bennett said:

    www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk/Pictures/8437_std.jpg for an imaginative view of the prologue.

    Excellent! That's my kind of picture! Did you use contrast masking or what?

    Quoted message said:

    So two questions : What do we think is the best form of heating in the wind and rain?

    A camping stove. I used to be a big fan of petrol because it was so cheap, easily available and
    works great in the depths of winter, but it's a bit volatile and after at least three very exciting
    flare ups in the tent porch I decided to switch to gas. A bit more pricey but much lighter and more
    controllable, and much safer for cooking in the porch, which is a commonplace activity when camping
    in the colder, wilder, darker months of the year.

    Quoted message said:

    What food items are best taken along in case no brewup is possible?

    I've never been in that situation, a brew up has always been possible. Of course, I've always used
    tents with decent sized porches, but even with the APA, you can cook out of the side of the tent if
    you pitch it carefully so that the entrance is to the lee of the wind.

    If you really must cook inside the APA, it can be done. Go outside, unhook the inner tent from the
    outer and peg the outer back on its own (a bit fiddly but it can be done) then when you're back
    inside the tent you can roll back the inner to create a decent porch space for cooking.

    Paul
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  4. On 13/9/03 22:01, in article [email hidden],

    Pat Bennett said:

    So two questions : What do we think is the best form of heating in the wind and rain? What food
    items are best taken along in case no brewup is possible?

    Fresh orange juice is a remarkably good source of energy - cartoons or even the original fruit
    work well!

    --
    Andy Howell Birmingham, UK

    www.ecotrend.net

  5. Quoted message said:

    So two questions : What do we think is the best form of heating in the wind and rain?

    The ordinary (with the big windshield) Trangia meths stoves are the only ones I'd be completely
    happy using in a tent. They also do pretty well in windy conditions owing to their superb
    windshield design.

    Quoted message said:

    What food items are best taken along in case no brewup is possible?

    That's easy : chocolate and oranges.

    --
    Boo

  6. Quoted message said:

    www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk/Pictures/8437_std.jpg

    What an excellent, atmospheric photo. v. well done !

    --
    Boo

  7. "Pat Bennett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    For my recent overnight stay on Y Garn, I used a Kelly kettle, and it worked very well for my
    brewup before the wind and rain got going. Thereafter, I didn't even try because it would have
    been no go in the conditions prevailing - see www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk/Pictures/8437_std.jpg for
    an imaginative view of the prologue.

    So two questions : What do we think is the best form of heating in the wind and rain?

    Trangia. The design means it works very well (even better?) in the wind, and a little water in the
    meths makes the pans less black. If you cook inside the porch, it's safe, too.

  8. Pat Bennett said:

    What food items are best taken along in case no brewup is possible?

    On one of my walks in Noway I did spend the odd night out in a bivvy bag and didn't carry a stove. I
    filled a flask with hot water in the hut in the morning and used it to make some sort of instant
    mashed potatoes with vegetables (called 'wonderstamppot' in Dutch). Add some cheese and eat.

    Roos

  9. "Pat Bennett" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    What food items are best taken along in case no brewup is possible?

    I don't take a stove anyway as a weight and hassle saving measure. Usually survive on naan or pitta
    bread, plum loaf (superior version of malt loaf), crisps, nuts, biscuits, chocolate and all sorts of
    junk food like that. Pretty much the same as when I'm home.

  10. Andy Howell said:
    Pat Bennett said:

    So two questions : What do we think is the best form of heating in the wind and rain? What food
    items are best taken along in case no brewup is possible?

    Fresh orange juice is a remarkably good source of energy - cartoons or even the original fruit
    work well!

    Fantastic! I no longer need to carry heavy cartons of juice with me. I can just take a sketch on a
    piece of paper. :-)
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  11. Paul Saunders said:
    Pat Bennett said:

    www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk/Pictures/8437_std.jpg for an imaginative view of the prologue.

    Excellent! That's my kind of picture! Did you use contrast masking or what?


    You'll have spotted that this derives from the third photo in my previous post.

    First ran the High Pass filter, adjusting the setting tioll I had what I wanted. Then adjusted
    contrast and brightness, and finished up with burning in the foreground to give it less emphasis.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So two questions : What do we think is the best form of heating in the wind and rain?

    A camping stove. I used to be a big fan of petrol because it was so cheap, easily available and
    works great in the depths of winter, but it's a bit volatile and after at least three very exciting
    flare ups in the tent porch I decided to switch to gas. A bit more pricey but much lighter and more
    controllable, and much safer for cooking in the porch, which is a commonplace activity when camping
    in the colder, wilder, darker months of the year.

    Quoted message said:

    What food items are best taken along in case no brewup is possible?

    I've never been in that situation, a brew up has always been possible. Of course, I've always used
    tents with decent sized porches, but even with the APA, you can cook out of the side of the tent if
    you pitch it carefully so that the entrance is to the lee of the wind.

    If you really must cook inside the APA, it can be done. Go outside, unhook the inner tent from the
    outer and peg the outer back on its own (a bit fiddly but it can be done) then when you're back
    inside the tent you can roll back the inner to create a decent porch space for cooking.

    Paul

    I think I'll have to try that out on the back lawn!

    Pat

    Pat Bennett From Cheshire in the UK www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk

  12. On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:42:43 +0100, Boo <boo@spam_me_no_spam.net>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk/Pictures/8437_std.jpg

    What an excellent, atmospheric photo. v. well done !

    Thanks, Boo. A payback for the soaking!

    Pat

    Pat Bennett From Cheshire in the UK www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk

  13. Boo said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk/Pictures/8437_std.jpg

    What an excellent, atmospheric photo. v. well done !

    <Goes off to see what the fuss is about> Wow! That's wonderful Respect! <Puts away camera>
    --

    Fran The email address in the headers is now a spamtrap; however ynyschwith at lineone dot net (no
    spaces) will reach me.

  14. On 14/9/03 11:04, in article [email hidden],

    Phil Cook said:

    Fantastic! I no longer need to carry heavy cartons of juice with me. I can just take a sketch on a
    piece of paper. :-)

    Virtual reality in the mountains :-)

    --
    Andy Howell Birmingham, UK

    www.ecotrend.net

  15. Phil Cook said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Fresh orange juice is a remarkably good source of energy - cartoons or even the original fruit
    work well!

    Fantastic! I no longer need to carry heavy cartons of juice with me. I can just take a sketch on a
    piece of paper. :-)

    Swine! Guess who'd just taken a big swig of tea...
    --

    Fran The email address in the headers is now a spamtrap; however ynyschwith at lineone dot net (no
    spaces) will reach me.

  16. On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:56:25 +0100, Fran <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Boo said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk/Pictures/8437_std.jpg

    What an excellent, atmospheric photo. v. well done !

    <Goes off to see what the fuss is about> Wow! That's wonderful Respect! <Puts away camera>


    Thanks Fran!

    Pat

    Pat Bennett From Cheshire in the UK www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk

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