Matthew has it right

Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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From the Gospel according to St. Matthew:

6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing
in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say
unto you, They have their reward.

6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to
thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

The above are the words of Christ as quoted in Matthew 6.

Here is the entire passage about prayer.

Jesus says as quoted in Matthew 6:

5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the
synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have
received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray
to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward
you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard
because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before
you ask him. 9"This, then, is how you should pray: " 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your
name, 10your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 11Give us today our
daily bread. 12Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13And lead us not
into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.'

14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

May God add His blessings to the writing of His Word here in SMC.

Amen.

Quoted message said:

Pastorio

You poor guy.

May you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior in 2004.

You truly remain in my prayers, neighbor.

Fwiw, I don't say my prayers out-loud standing in a synagogue/church or at a street corner and
certain I don't say my prayers out-loud to be seen by others.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Dear Bob,

The Lord comes like a thief in the night and this is your opportunity with Him 'now'. Take it now
whilst you can still knock on His door and invite Him to your table; for tomorrow may be too late.
Do not strive to belittle your neighbours, only to love them all unconditionally.

"Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be
able. When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand
outside and knock at the door, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open for us,' and He will answer and say to you,
'I do not know you, where you are from,' then you will begin to say, 'We ate and drank in Your
presence, and You taught in our streets.' But He will say, 'I tell you I do not know you, where you
are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity." Luke 13:24-28 NKJ

Jesus said "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I
will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me." Rev 3:20

Do not be deafened to the Lord's Word by the same self pride which made the hypocrites stand on the
streets in Jesus' time professing to speak for God. For they preached for power and greed, and cared
not for their neighbours. When you pray tonight you can do it in your own room if you find it
difficult. No one else in your house hold needs to know, but Jesus will hear you and open His door.

Carol T

People who want to share their religious views with you, almost never want you to share yours with
them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC

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Quoted message said:

From the Gospel according to St. Matthew:

6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray
standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men.
Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray
to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee
openly.

The above are the words of Christ as quoted in Matthew 6.

Here is the entire passage about prayer.

Jesus says as quoted in Matthew 6:

5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the
synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have
received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray
to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward
you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be
heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need
before you ask him. 9"This, then, is how you should pray: " 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed
be your name, 10your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 11Give us
today our daily bread. 12Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13And
lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.'

14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

May God add His blessings to the writing of His Word here in SMC.

Amen.

Quoted message said:

Pastorio

You poor guy.

May you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior in 2004.

You truly remain in my prayers, neighbor.

Fwiw, I don't say my prayers out-loud standing in a synagogue/church or at a street corner and
certain I don't say my prayers out-loud to be seen by others.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
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Carol T said:

Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Dear Bob,

Dear Carol,

I've respectfully read all your posts. You speak in circumlocutions and riddles. You seem not to
read what I've posted. That's fine. Save your florid and tortured expositions for others.

Quoted message said:

Luke 13:24-28 NKJ

I prefer KJ.

Quoted message said:

Do not be deafened to the Lord's Word by the same self pride which made the hypocrites stand on
the streets in Jesus' time professing to speak for God. For they preached for power and greed, and
cared not for their neighbours.

What makes you think they've stopped. Read Chung's posts. You have no idea what I think of Jesus'
words. You assume too much.

Quoted message said:

When you pray tonight you can do it in your own room if you find it difficult. No one else in your
house hold needs to know, but Jesus will hear you and open His door.

You know nothing about my relationship with God. Don't presume so.

You talk *at* people with your posts. Do you talk to your family this same way?

Pastorio

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Quoted message said:

From the Gospel according to St. Matthew:

6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing
in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say
unto you, They have their reward.

6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to
thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

The above are the words of Christ as quoted in Matthew 6.

Somebody please thank [censored] Chiung for repeating what I said. Perhaps he didn't recognize the
significance of "6:5" and "6:6" when I typed them above.

Quoted message said:

Here is the entire passage about prayer.

The entire passage merely further illuninates the sanctimonious fakery of Chung's "witnessing" when
all it really is can be described as propagandizing and relentlessly showering misinformation on the
uninterested. Teaching the nations isn't the same as badgering them.

Quoted message said:

Jesus says as quoted in Matthew 6:

5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the
synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received
their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your
Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And
when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of
their many words.

Chung babbles like the pagans using his false piety as a weapon, as a source of disparagement, as a
means of insult. Using "many words" instead of wise ones. And using them to push people away rather
than drawing them close.

Quoted message said:

Fwiw, I don't say my prayers out-loud standing in a synagogue/church or at a street corner and
certain I don't say my prayers out-loud to be seen by others.

Chung implies he doesn't say The Lord's Prayer out loud in public, probably, but htis is another
convenient "misunderstanding" on his part. The public and unctuously self-congratulatory "religious"
prattle he posts daily serves to make the point about wearing his piety like a proudly-worn robe in
the streets to which he draws constant attention. It's merely a way to boast about his superiority
to others who don't believe as he does. And what intelligent person who can read the bible would?
There's a difference between offering information from a spirit of Christian charity and insisting
on an exclusive grasp of *the only* exclusionary truth.

Chung's falsity is nowhere more evident that in his treatment of others. He claims to love his
neighbors as himself; can it be that he treats himself the way he treats others? Does he lie *to*
himself as he lies to others? Does he distort *his* words as he distorts the words of others? Does
he sneer at himself as he sneers at others? Does he support malicious attacks on himself from
M_unstruck?

Poor, faker Chung.

Pastorio

Casey said:

People who want to share their religious views with you, almost never want you to share yours
with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC

Share away, Casey.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From the Gospel according to St. Matthew:

6:5
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for
they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the
streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They
have their reward.

6:6
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast
shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father
which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

The above are the words of Christ as quoted in Matthew 6.

Here is the entire passage about prayer.

Jesus says as quoted in Matthew 6:

5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love
to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be
seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in
full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray
to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done
in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on
babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of
their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you
need before you ask him.
9"This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us today our daily bread.
12Forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.'

14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly
Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive men their
sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

May God add His blessings to the writing of His Word here in SMC.

Amen.

Quoted message said:

Pastorio

You poor guy.

May you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior in 2004.

You truly remain in my prayers, neighbor.

Fwiw, I don't say my prayers out-loud standing in a synagogue/church
or at a street corner and certain I don't say my prayers out-loud to
be seen by others.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

People who want to share their religious views with you, almost never want you to share yours
with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC

Share away, Casey.

OK, how about this one:

There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'

KC

Quoted message said:

Humbly,

Andrew

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"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> From the Gospel according to St. Matthew:
>
> 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray
> standing in the synagogues and in the corners of

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
>
> 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou

hast

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret
> shall reward thee openly.

The above are the words of Christ as quoted in Matthew 6.

Here is the entire passage about prayer.

Jesus says as quoted in Matthew 6:

5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the
synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have
received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and
pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret,
will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think
they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father
knows what you need before you ask him. 9"This, then, is how you should pray: " 'Our
Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, 10your kingdom come, your will be done on earth
as it is in heaven. 11Give us today our daily bread. 12Forgive us our debts, as we also
have forgiven our debtors. 13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the
evil one.'

14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive
you. 15But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

May God add His blessings to the writing of His Word here in SMC.

Amen.

> Pastorio

You poor guy.

May you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior in 2004.

You truly remain in my prayers, neighbor.

Fwiw, I don't say my prayers out-loud standing in a synagogue/church or at a street corner and
certain I don't say my prayers out-loud to be seen by others.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Casey said:

People who want to share their religious views with you, almost never want you to share yours
with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC

Share away, Casey.

Go ahead, if you must, Casey. But first you might want to google the "sharing" between "Mozz" and
chung. See how Chung "shares" with others. He mocks, and scorns. He distorts. He uses what others
say as ammunition. He "misunderstands" what the they say. And it's all a fraudulent act to gain
ascendancy, as always.

Free will and all that...

Pastorio

Casey said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

People who want to share their religious views with you, almost never want you to share yours
with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC

Share away, Casey.

OK, how about this one:

There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'

KC

Is that truly your belief, Casey?

If so, then where do you place your faith?

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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Casey said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

People who want to share their religious views with you, almost never want you to share yours
with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC

Share away, Casey.

OK, how about this one:

There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'

Tell us what your adequate mind says about God and Jesus specifically.

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Casey said:

Quoted message said:

> People who want to share their religious views with you, almost

never

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> want you to share yours with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC
>

Share away, Casey.

OK, how about this one:

There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'

KC

Is that truly your belief, Casey?

...................Yep

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If so, then where do you place your faith?

..............Who said I have faith

Quoted message said:

Humbly,

Andrew

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Casey said:

Quoted message said:

> People who want to share their religious views with you, almost

never

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> want you to share yours with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC
>

Share away, Casey.

OK, how about this one:

There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'

Tell us what your adequate mind says about God and Jesus specifically.

................There is no God, therefore no Jesus.

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Casey said:

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Casey said:

>
> > People who want to share their religious views with you, almost

never

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > want you to share yours with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC
> >
>
> Share away, Casey.

OK, how about this one:

There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'

KC

Is that truly your belief, Casey?

...................Yep

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If so, then where do you place your faith?

..............Who said I have faith

Everyone has faith. The question remains, where do you place yours?

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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Casey said:

Quoted message said:

Tell us what your adequate mind says about God and Jesus specifically.

Quoted message said:

................There is no God, therefore no Jesus.

At least you are consistent in your blindness.

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Casey said:

> > People who want to share their religious views with you, almost

never

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > want you to share yours with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC
> >
>
> Share away, Casey.

OK, how about this one:

There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'

Tell us what your adequate mind says about God and Jesus specifically.

................There is no God, therefore no Jesus.

It would seem that you have chosen to place your faith on the non-existence of God.

What led you to make this choice?

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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>>>>>> What makes you think they've stopped. Read Chung's posts.

You have no idea what I think of Jesus' words. You assume too much.<<<<<

Dear Bob,

You hold the ultimate lottery ticket in your hands, you are free to chose 'if or when' to cash it
in. Be warned though, if you tear pieces off it because you don't quite believe what you have,
others will see what you do.

I say that because I care about you and don't want you to make this mistake.

Jesus said "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."

Sometimes we really don't know the consequences of some of the things we do, do. We _can_ take that
forgiveness, it came at the cost of the life of the one person who loves you unconditionally, what
more can any one give for you?

Who has more to give you? Love your neighbours Bob, don't let the seeing you tearing away at your
Saviour, there are no rewards in this.

I am glad that you like the King James, it is pure poetry and I pray that The Spirit moves through
you as you read The Word.

Carol T

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Casey said:

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Casey wrote:

> >
> > > People who want to share their religious views with you, almost

never

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> > > want you to share yours with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC
> > >
> >
> > Share away, Casey.
>
> OK, how about this one:
>
> There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'
>
> KC

Is that truly your belief, Casey?

...................Yep

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If so, then where do you place your faith?

..............Who said I have faith

Everyone has faith. The question remains, where do you place yours?

.........................Faith: n. .........Strong belief; religion; esp, without proof.
.........Sound familiar?

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Humbly,

Andrew

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Thanks for the heads up Bob, Being a member of this group since 98 I'm well aware of Dr Chung and
Mu's postings on religion. I don't believe in God or any religion, but I am a good charitable person
always ready to help anyone regardless of their religious persuasion.

KC

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Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Casey said:

People who want to share their religious views with you, almost never want you to share yours
with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC

Share away, Casey.

Go ahead, if you must, Casey. But first you might want to google the "sharing" between "Mozz" and
chung. See how Chung "shares" with others. He mocks, and scorns. He distorts. He uses what others
say as ammunition. He "misunderstands" what the they say. And it's all a fraudulent act to gain
ascendancy, as always.

Free will and all that...

Pastorio

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Casey said:

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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:17:22 +1100, "Casey" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>> > People who want to share their religious views with you, almost

never

Quoted message said:

>> > want you to share yours with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC
>> >
>>
>> Share away, Casey.
>
>OK, how about this one:
>
>There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'

Tell us what your adequate mind says about God and Jesus specifically.

................There is no God, therefore no Jesus.

It would seem that you have chosen to place your faith on the

non-existence

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of God.

What led you to make this choice?

..............It's unanswerable and irrelevent to my life. KC

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Humbly,

Andrew

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