John said:MD/PhD said:Casey wrote
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>Casey wrote:
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>>"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>>>Casey wrote:
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>>>>>> People who want to share their religious views with you, almost never want you to share
>>>>>> yours with them. ...Dave Barry 04 KC
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>>>>>Share away, Casey.
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>>>>OK, how about this one:
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>>>>There is no god. Just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically inadequate 'minds'
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>>>>KC
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>>>Is that truly your belief, Casey?
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>>...................Yep
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>>>If so, then where do you place your faith?
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>>..............Who said I have faith
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>Everyone has faith.
Another deep thought from Chung. People who wait for proof lack faith. It's a strongly human
characteristic and one that is the reason that disciplined inquiry has proceeded as far as it has.
The scientific method, math, etc..
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:The question remains, where do you place yours?
.........................Faith: n. .........Strong belief; religion; esp, without proof.
.........Sound familiar?
It does.
From the Webster Dictionary:
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Quoted message said:b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof The question remains, where do you
place your faith?
Humbly,
Andrew
Andrew has it exactly correct.
About as much as ever. The assumption is that everyone has this thing called faith in the unproven
and decides where to invest it. Everyone who has said that they're atheist or agnostic has certain
beliefs, but it certainly can't be called faith. They don't accept the unproven.
Quoted message said:With respect to certain basic questions such as: 1) why are we here, 2) how are we here and 3)
what should we do about it, the only plausible answers require faith.
Some belief sets say that there are no answers to those questions that we can figure out because
they're beyond us. Others say that there are no reasons - accidents of the universe. Others say that
our spirits continue after death and how we behaved will be judged - well or badly
- and appropriately dealt with. Others say that there's nothing beyond simple biology that there's
anything more to it than meets the eye.
Quoted message said:I don't see the scientific view being able to provide 'PROOF' with respect to these questions any
time in the near (or even distant) future. If you are going to have any position at all, that is,
a mature adult position, with respect to these questions, faith will be required. So, the question
remains, where do you place your faith?
Hey, "John" how come you dropped your 90210 or whatever it was? Was it 666? I forget.
It's people like you who read three books and think that you've got it all that make these
discussions so funny. There are rational ethical and moral systems all over the world that don't
depend on externally imposed rules. A basic belief that killing is undesirable (doesn't even need to
be a commandment) logically leads one to treat others in a kindly fashion. It can grow from a very
selfish beginning (I don't want anyone else to kill me.) to a very wide world view. The Dalai Lama,
for example.
And so do fundamentalist wackos believe in their zany inventions, whether they wear turbans,
nothing, or lab coats and stethoscopes. Their faith is a good bit more selective and absolute. They
claim to know *everything* you don't and unless you believe exactly as they do, you're stupid and
doomed. But they love their neighbors...
Pastorio
