Pizza.

[email hidden] (Oscar) wrote in news:ae2763da.0401012149.55ffee14
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I was reading the pizza posts below, and was wondering: why is a food (any food) supposedly
"better" in it's country of origin than here in the U.S.?

I personally believe American pizza simply dwarfs its italian predicessor. Why is there so little
italian pizza in the U.S.? Because nobody wants it! Italian "pizza" is an impotent concoction of
crunchy, paper thin "bread" that is so unappetizing that it has to be covered up by a feable
excuse for tomato sauce and (what appear to be) rotten, overcooked herbs like fresh basil leaves.
And no, I don't like four large lumps of grainy mozzarella placed confusingly on the top. Grate
your cheese, please. And give me some meat baby!

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Wayne

Oscar said:

And give me some meat baby!

I hear Sheldon's services are for rent...

Seriously, though, pizza without meat is like a hamburger without the burger, like a chicken
sandwich without the chicken, etc.

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Hello gorgeous people,

Just wondering....... seeing I'm considering ordering a Pizza for tea.

If you *had* to order a Pizza & have it delivered............ who would you choose? ie, which
companies do the best pizzas?

eg, I go with Pizza Hut. I like their thin/crispy bases.

You might go Dominoes or some other.

Raelene - Perf.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

(Oscar) said:

I was reading the pizza posts below, and was wondering: why is a food (any food) supposedly
"better" in it's country of origin than here in the U.S.?

I personally believe American pizza simply dwarfs its italian predicessor. Why is there so little
italian pizza in the U.S.? Because nobody wants it! Italian "pizza" is an impotent concoction of
crunchy, paper thin "bread" that is so unappetizing that it has to be covered up by a feable
excuse for tomato sauce and (what appear to be) rotten, overcooked herbs like fresh basil leaves.
And no, I don't like four large lumps of grainy mozzarella placed confusingly on the top. Grate
your cheese, please. And give me some meat baby!

We are still in search of decent pizza in Seattle. I refuse to buy Domino's. Papa John's is okay,
that's where we used to get pizza when we lived in Greensboro. Of the local chains, Pagliacci is
overpriced and Jet City is underwhelming. Jeff, Joni, Alan, any ideas for us?

As it stands now, homemade pizza works the best. I can make the crust as thin or thick as I want
and use good quality sauce and toppings. For the time being, we'll avoid the "nose-and-udder-
meat" toppings.

Cindy

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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Wayne

I've just started reading "American Pie," by Peter Reinhart. What fun. The beginning is a travel
journal of his quest. This section gives a good understanding of the different types of Italian and
American pies. (Haven't finished that yet.) I skimmed ahead and he gives a half dozen different
crust types, lots of different intriguing topping preparations, specific pies, and ends up with
foccacia. It looks to be a wonderful winter playbook. Take a look at it the next time you are at the
book store; it was just published in November. Janet

Wayne Boatwright said:

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Hey -- I like Papa John's thin crust. Of course it isn't authentic, none of the chains are, but I
don't care. I still like it.

I love Donato's. They are a chain east of the Mississippi in about six or seven states. Their claim
to fame is using provolone instead of mozarella. Again, not authentic, but good nonetheless.

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Wayne Boatwright said:

[email hidden] (Oscar) wrote in news:ae2763da.0401012149.55ffee14 @posting.google.com:

Quoted message said:

I was reading the pizza posts below, and was wondering: why is a food (any food) supposedly
"better" in it's country of origin than here in the U.S.?

I personally believe American pizza simply dwarfs its italian predicessor.

(snip)

Quoted message said:

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Wayne

No no, this post is deserving of Chuck E. Cheese's! 🙂

Jill

In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne

Boatwright said:

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Wayne

He-e-e-ey-y, I represent that remark! Papa John's makes the best thin crust around here. There's a
nearby Italian deli that's touted but their base sauce seemed to be plain ol' tomato sauce. We love
Papa John's. So there! :-P
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"Raelene" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hello gorgeous people,

Just wondering....... seeing I'm considering ordering a Pizza for tea.

If you *had* to order a Pizza & have it delivered............ who would

you

Quoted message said:

choose? ie, which companies do the best pizzas?

eg, I go with Pizza Hut. I like their thin/crispy bases.

You might go Dominoes or some other.

First of all, I wouldn't order from Dominoes if it was the last pizza place on earth. Dominoes has
bad pizza, in my opinion, and that is enough reason to avoid them. The other reason is that Dominoes
is aligned with some extreme right-wing religious groups, and part of your purchase price ends up
funding law suites for political causes like forcing schools to teach creationism. The Thomas More
Law Center was established by Dominoes founder, Tom Monaghan and is housed in the Dominoes
headquarters in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Thomas More Law Center is extremely anti-gay. Thomas More lists
Rick Santorum and Alan Keyes among its board members and supplies guest attorneys to Fox News
network shows such as Hannity and Colmes and the O'Reilly Factor.

I try to find a local pizza place to order from -- even if I have to pick-up the pizza.

Raelene said:

eg, I go with Pizza Hut. I like their thin/crispy bases.

You might go Dominoes or some other.

Puh-leeez! This is a cooking newsgroup. Let's do some cooking. Make your own pizza. Easy with this
Julia Child video/transcript:

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If you can't view the video, email yourself the transcript.

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Cindy Fuller wrote:

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Quoted message said:

We are still in search of decent pizza in Seattle. I refuse to buy Domino's. Papa John's is okay,
that's where we used to get pizza when we lived in Greensboro. Of the local chains, Pagliacci is
overpriced and Jet City is underwhelming. Jeff, Joni, Alan, any ideas for us?

Wish I could help. In my neck of the woods, the best pizza I've found is Round Table --- which tells
you something about my neck of the woods --- and I've been particularly unimpressed with Papa
John's, which we occasionally order in at my office.

A few months ago, Alan posted (in seattle.eats, I think) about finding a pizza he liked downtown, at
La Vita E'Bella.

Quoted message said:

As it stands now, homemade pizza works the best. I can make the crust as thin or thick as I want
and use good quality sauce and toppings. For the time being, we'll avoid the "nose-and-udder-meat"
toppings.

I envy you --- dough is not my friend. I don't have the "feel" for it yet, and I don't make it often
enough to get sufficient practice. My pizzas end up in the oddest shapes :-) Fortunately, they taste
OK, and so far I only make them for myself.

---jkb

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[email hidden] (Oscar) wrote in news:ae2763da.0401012149.55ffee14 @posting.google.com:

Quoted message said:

I was reading the pizza posts below, and was wondering: why is a food (any food) supposedly
"better" in it's country of origin than here in the U.S.?

I personally believe American pizza simply dwarfs its italian predicessor. Why is there so
little italian pizza in the U.S.? Because nobody wants it! Italian "pizza" is an impotent
concoction of crunchy, paper thin "bread" that is so unappetizing that it has to be covered up
by a feable excuse for tomato sauce and (what appear to be) rotten, overcooked herbs like fresh
basil leaves. And no, I don't like four large lumps of grainy mozzarella placed confusingly on
the top. Grate your cheese, please. And give me some meat baby!

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Wayne

Whoa, whoa, whoa kids. Who said anything about Domino's or Papa John's? What does is say about
American culture that you automatically assumed I was talking about the pizza franchises? The feces
they put in those cardboard boxes can hardly be called "pizza" either. No, I'm talking about the
pizza from your local guy (or gal), who puts some love into their pie and wouldn't dream of
insulting your palate with concoctions like the cheesburger "pizza". I guess I should have dumbed
down my post to read, American STYLE pizza; that pie wuth nice thick crust covered with lotsa sauce
and cheese, with some sausage and onion gracing a top so lovingly scattered with thick melted
cheese. No, no Dominoes. Send them to Europe (they're huge their anyway).

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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Wayne

I've just started reading "American Pie," by Peter Reinhart. What fun. The beginning is a travel
journal of his quest. This section gives a good understanding of the different types of Italian
and American pies. (Haven't finished that yet.) I skimmed ahead and he gives a half dozen
different crust types, lots of different intriguing topping preparations, specific pies, and ends
up with foccacia. It looks to be a wonderful winter playbook. Take a look at it the next time you
are at the book store; it was just published in November. Janet

I saw it while Christmas shopping but didn't get it then. It's definitely on my "to get" list!

Thanks! Wayne

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Wayne Boatwright said:

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Hey -- I like Papa John's thin crust. Of course it isn't authentic, none of the chains are, but I
don't care. I still like it.

I love Donato's. They are a chain east of the Mississippi in about six or seven states. Their
claim to fame is using provolone instead of mozarella. Again, not authentic, but good nonetheless.

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I was generalizing, but there are some chains that actually produce some quite edible pizza, just
not anything authentic as you said. I sometimes get a personal pan pizza and a salad from Pizza Hut
for a quick lunch. It's usually tasty, but nothing I'd spend time sitting over for dinner.

My preference is for hand-crafted rustic pizza, authentic to its Italian roots or not.
Luckily, I have two places within a short drive who produce such if I don't feel like firing
up the oven at home.

Wayne

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Wayne Boatwright said:

[email hidden] (Oscar) wrote in news:ae2763da.0401012149.55ffee14 @posting.google.com:

Quoted message said:

I was reading the pizza posts below, and was wondering: why is a food (any food) supposedly
"better" in it's country of origin than here in the U.S.?

I personally believe American pizza simply dwarfs its italian predicessor.

(snip)

Quoted message said:

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Wayne

No no, this post is deserving of Chuck E. Cheese's! 🙂

Jill

Hehehe! I shoulda thought of that one!

Wayne

Melba's Jammin said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Quoted message said:

He-e-e-ey-y, I represent that remark! Papa John's makes the best thin crust around here. There's a
nearby Italian deli that's touted but their base sauce seemed to be plain ol' tomato sauce. We
love Papa John's. So there! :-P

I've never had Papa John's, so I can't speak for them, but Dominoes, geez. My niece and nephew were
born and raised in Domino country in Michigan, and they just love! the stuff. Much to the chagrin of
their mother who was born and raised within sight of Manhattan. Chains don't do especially well
around here. I just pick up the phone and call Luigi, some kid brings me half plain and half sausage
and peppers, made by someone in the shop by hand, not pulled out of the freezer and warmed up.

nancy

Melba's Jammin said:

Papa John's makes the best thin crust around here. There's a nearby Italian deli that's touted but
their base sauce seemed to be plain ol' tomato sauce. We love Papa John's. So there! :-P

But what about those oddly uniform spots on the top of the cheese? Like they have a template and run
a blowtorch over it to make 'freckles'.

From their web site:

"We pride ourselves on using cheese made with 100% mozzarella."

What kind of cheese do you make with mozzarella?

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Wayne Boatwright said:

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Hey -- I like Papa John's thin crust. Of course it isn't authentic, none of the chains are, but I
don't care. I still like it.

I love Donato's. They are a chain east of the Mississippi in about six or seven states. Their
claim to fame is using provolone instead of mozarella. Again, not authentic, but good nonetheless.

Donato's started in Columbus, Ohio. I loved their pizza when I lived there. It wasn't as good as
Rotolo's, but it was good. Several years ago McDonald's bought Donoto's and rapidly expanded it
across the Midwest. Recently McDonald's decided to get out of the pizza business and is selling the
chain, but they intend to hold onto their Boston Market and Chipotle restaurants.

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Vox Humana said:

... Dominoes is aligned with some extreme right-wing religious groups, and part of your purchase
price ends up funding law suites for political causes like forcing schools to teach creationism.
The Thomas More Law Center was established by Dominoes founder, Tom Monaghan and is housed in the
Dominoes headquarters in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Thomas More Law Center is extremely anti-gay. Thomas
More lists Rick Santorum and Alan Keyes among its board members and supplies guest attorneys to
Fox News network shows such as Hannity and Colmes and the O'Reilly Factor.

Can you point to reputable independent sources where the connections you claim to exist can be
verified? Not that I think you're knowingly propagating false information, but I still remember the
hoax involving Proctor and Gamble from many years ago so I try to be careful with claims like this.