wheels

Tim McNamara said:

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There was a great renaming of newsgroups. I don't
remember the year, but it was around 1987 or 1988. Before
the great renaming, all newsgroups were net.* or mod.*.
The mod groups were moderated. The old name for
rec.bicycles was net.bicycle (yes, singular). I just
found articles I posted to net.bicycle in 1986. I know I
was reading it in 1985, too. I don't know why they don't
have what I wrote then.

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I'm pretty sure Jobst didn't join rec.bicycles until
after the great renaming.

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When did rec.bicycles become rec.bicycles.tech,
r.b.marketplace, etc? I started very shortly after that,
having finally got Usenet access- Internet access in
general was limited pretty much to universities around
here. Some of the same folks posting today were already
here in the rec.bikes.* groups by then, and a lot of them
have gone away.

I was in rec.bicycle long before it got split. I just recall
that Bruce Hildenbrand was an activist for the split. He may
know when that occurred.

Jobst Brandt [email hidden]

Tim McNamara said:

When did rec.bicycles become rec.bicycles.tech,
r.b.marketplace, etc? I started very shortly after that,
having finally got Usenet access- Internet access in
general was limited pretty much to universities around
here. Some of the same folks posting today were already
here in the rec.bikes.* groups by then, and a lot of them
have gone away.

August 1992. Here is the welcome post from Les Earnest:

/groups.google.com/groups?selm=1992Aug26.052349.15264%40CSD-
NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>

I was reading Usenet back then, but not in rec.bicycles.*
Around that time it seemed like most users were at
universities, tech companies, and the occasional ISP like
Netcom (anyone remember Netcom?) And some horrific header-
mangling BBS gateways.

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Mark McMaster said:

When I referred to the spoke/flange "load point", I meant
the point where the spoke attached to the flange. A spoke
is what is referred to as a "one-force member", meaning it
can exerted only a single force, oriented directly on the
line from one end to the other. Therefore, the point at
which the spoke attaches (pulls) on the flange has a
direct affect on the angle at which the spoke pulls on the
rim, and therefore the lateral component (bracing force)
contributed by the spoke on the rim.

Spokes do not exert any bending forces over their length,
that is the spoke axial centerline is a line of action of
pure tensile force. Therefore, "load point" is irrelevant.
The effective origin of the spoke at the hub is the
straight line extension of its centerline where it
intersects the axle, Flange height and width only serve to
confuse the issue.

Semantics or pedantics? Of course, it is only the angle of
the spoke that matters. But the spoke is attached to the
flange, so the location of the flange (and the point on the
flange that the spoke attaches to) will determine what the
spoke angle will be. The main issue in this thread is that
whether the spokes are radial or crossed, or laced heads in
or heads out, is splitting hairs in regard to spoke angle.

Mark McMaster [email hidden]

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stuff on it...

Yep, and it's at Langley.

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Try taking the high road,

-Dave

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Originally Posted by Tom Reingold [IMG]/img/forum/go_quote.gif[/IMG]

I was a bike mechanic many years ago. Let's see. It was 1978
through 1984. For a few years after that, I was still an
active cyclist, but I haven't been into it much lately.

I'm still happy with my bike, which I built back in about
1984. I'm not tempted to buy anything new, because while I
can see the improvements, to me, they don't justify the
costs. My bike is comfortable and reasonably efficient.

I remember reading Jobst Brandt's book on building wheels. I
learned a lot from it. I also learned a lot from reading his
posts here. Hi, Jobst, if you are reading. Back then, he
pointed out that more spokes make a better wheel than fewer
spokes. Yet modern wheels have shockingly few spokes. Is
this because people tolerate weaker wheels than before, or
have there been advances in materials that allow the new
wheels to be as strong as the old 36-spoke wheels?

Another thing I notice is the silly spoking patterns. I
think they are for show. Some rear wheels are radially
spoked on the left side. Many front wheels are radially
spoked. Maybe it doesn't hurt durability that much, but it
can't help.

Also, has the dishing problem been solved? Seven speed
wheels were coming in just as I was falling out of touch
with the industry, and even that seemed extreme. Now we have
ten speed wheels. How wide are hubs now? They were about 126
or 130 mm when I "left".

When I google my name, I see lots of messages I posted, some
about bicycle repair. A lot of that stuff is old and out of
date. I wonder why people to bother archiving such
inconsequential stuff. Well, I suppose the simple answer is
that they do it simply because they can.

Tom Reingold Noo Joizy

It sounds that the wheels may towards the development of low spokes,such the road carbon bike with 700C wheels is popular with 3 spokes,But it is not batter than the general wheels withe 24-36spokes. I think!