Flag making materials

Search on the imternet for kite specialists. I found a great company for rip stop nylon for
hovercraft skirts.

Gadget

Richard Corfield said:

One thing I was looking for was some bright orange rip-stop nylon or similar with which to make a
flag, and some sew on retroflective strip. I was thinking of augmenting the flags that come with
the Trice. Local haberdasheries didn't have anything, nor did the local cycle shop.

Hi Richard

Try rec.kites

I know there are plenty of rip-roaring-rantatuting-ripstop-pit-stop-shops that are known
thereabouts.

Alternatively, as I'm sure you know, Google is your friend.

James

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Richard Corfield said:

One thing I was looking for was some bright orange rip-stop nylon or similar with which to make a
flag, and some sew on retroflective strip.

Strip from the Technicolour Tyre Company (small ad in Cycle most itmes), material from your local
kite shop. I have a Mylar flag made by a kite man.

Guy
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you know? said:

Strip from the Technicolour Tyre Company (small ad in Cycle most itmes), material from your local
kite shop. I have a Mylar flag made by a kite man.

We have a kite shop in one of the corners of town, sells those big 4 line power kites. I'll pop in
there at the weekend.

Thanks

- Richard

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Gadget <[email hidden]> typed:

Quoted message said:

Search on the imternet for kite specialists. I found a great company for rip stop nylon for
hovercraft skirts.

So why's your nick Gadget again? 🙂

Gadget said:

Search on the imternet for kite specialists. I found a great company for rip stop nylon for
hovercraft skirts.

First read through of that I thought you were talking about an interesting new fashion item.

- Richard

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Gadget said:

Search on the imternet for kite specialists. I found a great company for rip stop nylon for
hovercraft skirts.

Agree with kite supplies. You can get flourescent ripstop - I had a nice big black & flourescent
yellow kite 'till a mouse decided to chew the middle out of it in storage. Somewhat annoying, as it
was my biggest and most impressive kite (a big 3D snowflake job - lots of interlocking square panels
on a hexagonal frame - took me months of spare time to sew).

Anyway, just by-the-way, I'm reading my news while waiting for the glue to dry having completed the
first test-flight of my prototype electric hovercraft. It doesn't have a deck or skirt yet, just the
central box hull and lift duct (so doesn't really fly yet - more a full power engine-mount test),
but I thought it sufficient coincidence to mention. Glue to dry because it tipped, the battery
shifted and teh front half decided it would rather be a helicopter. I grabbed the back, which slowed
it slightly, but snapped the rear panel of hull (no deck yet, so it's not as supported as it will
be). Out with teh cyanoacrylate before I can get on with deck (and battery restraint, I guess).

My first hovercraft was a much bigger model - a semi-scale SRN1 with a
3.5cc engine (thereabouts, I think) and several feet across. It hovered nicely without a skirt.
However, on about its third flight something gave way in teh intake/lift duct and it turned most
of teh superstructure inside-out through the spinning propeller. Spectacular, it was - clouds of
balsa-wood fragements jetting across teh garden. Another of those great 100 hours building - 10
minutes flying modelling moments.

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Hi Richard

Saw your posting whilst searching for flag making tips.

After seeing the designs of flagmaker Angus Watt at the WOMAD music festivals, we thought we'd have
a go at making some large flags (2 x
1.5 m)to decorate the house for our forthcoming wedding.

Ask a local chandler's yard for ripstop nylon spinnaker material. It comes in a variety of
thicknesses and colours including dayglo colours, is extremely light and strong; though its not
cheap (around GBP 8 per metre). Maybe you could scrounge some offcuts?

I've designed the panels for our flags using AutoCAD :-), and am sticking them together using 1cm
wide sailmakers' double-sided adhesive tape, oversewn with a zig-zag stitch for extra security. It
seems plenty strong enough in 30-40 mph winds.

The "flagpole-side" of the flag (for which I'm sure there is a technical term!) is folded over to
make a vertical pocket for a piece of cord to run in. We used nylon leech cord (again, from a
chandlers). The pocket is lined with fabric edging tape to re-inforce it, and the leech cord is sewn
into the pocket at the top and bottom, before being attached to the flagpole.

On the subject of which...our current problem is how to design a simple lightweight cheap strong
flagpole of around 4m height, without using guy ropes if possible. We are considering scaffolding
pole, but it will need to be dug into the ground for a considerable depth to remain upright!

Any suggestions from budding flagpole engineers gratefully received !!

Kind regards

David Williams

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Quoted message said:

I have the Christmas lights working - two chains of 3 high brightness LEDs in series with little
3mm flashing LEDs (one per chain). Quite nice off the 13.2V Lumicycle battery pack. Maplin's high
efficiency red looks more like an orange though, unless they got their parts bins mixed up. Was
tempted by the very high efficiency greens, but wondered about legality issues. Little clip on
fresnel lenses complete the picture making them very visible. Just need some small bits of tube of
about 7mm internal diameter to mount them into.

One thing I was looking for was some bright orange rip-stop nylon or similar with which to make a
flag, and some sew on retroflective strip. I was thinking of augmenting the flags that come with
the Trice. Local haberdasheries didn't have anything, nor did the local cycle shop.

- Richard

On 17/12/03 6:00 am, in article
[email hidden], "dave"

Quoted message said:

Hi Richard

Saw your posting whilst searching for flag making tips.

After seeing the designs of flagmaker Angus Watt at the WOMAD music festivals, we thought we'd
have a go at making some large flags (2 x
1.5 m)to decorate the house for our forthcoming wedding.

Ask a local chandler's yard for ripstop nylon spinnaker material. It comes in a variety of
thicknesses and colours including dayglo colours, is extremely light and strong; though its not
cheap (around GBP 8 per metre). Maybe you could scrounge some offcuts?

you could also look for the outdoor fabric suppliers such as Pennine Outdoor
pennineoutdoor.co.ukpennineoutdoor.co.ukOpen ↗

They do good service and usually have a good range of fabrics available. You'll probably find others
in the small ads of the various climbing and walking magazines.

..d

(dave) said:

Ask a local chandler's yard for ripstop nylon spinnaker material.

Or, if you're at WOMAD, wander into town and go to the kite shop ;-)

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dave said:

I've designed the panels for our flags using AutoCAD :-), and am sticking them together using 1cm
wide sailmakers' double-sided adhesive tape, oversewn with a zig-zag stitch for extra security.
It seems plenty strong enough in 30-40 mph winds.

Personally, I stick with copydex and then over-sew. Works well, and I've this vague idea that if you
oversew when the copydex is still tacky it will ooze into needle-holes and make them air-tight.

Quoted message said:

On the subject of which...our current problem is how to design a simple lightweight cheap strong
flagpole of around 4m height, without using guy ropes if possible. We are considering scaffolding
pole, but it will need to be dug into the ground for a considerable depth to remain upright!

Scaffold tube? Lightweight?

Quoted message said:

Any suggestions from budding flagpole engineers gratefully received !!

Carbon fibre tube - consult either kite shop or angling shop. I've seen anglers with long tapering
poles - carp pole? Different to a rod, anyway.

regards, Ian SMith
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(dave) said:

The "flagpole-side" of the flag (for which I'm sure there is a technical term!)

Hoist.

The other end is the fly.

Still pondering about flagpole suports though.

tim

you know? said:

(dave) said:

Ask a local chandler's yard for ripstop nylon spinnaker material.

Or, if you're at WOMAD, wander into town and go to the kite shop ;-)

I phoned the nearest Chandlers and they didn't do material at all, and local kite shop's web site
didn't mention it either. Will have a look at pennineoutdoor, then perhaps look further afield for
candlers that can send by post.

Thanks
- Richard

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On 17/12/03 11:39 pm, in article [email hidden],

Tim Hall said:

Hoist.

Quoted message said:

The other end is the fly.

Quoted message said:

Still pondering about flagpole suports though.

Might be able to do something with 32/40mm drain pipe and water pipe. Should be able to construct a
telescopic flagpole of up to about 5m with reasonable security.

..d

On 17/12/03 7:19 pm, in article
[email hidden], "Richard

Corfield said:

you know? said:

(dave) said:

Ask a local chandler's yard for ripstop nylon spinnaker material.

Or, if you're at WOMAD, wander into town and go to the kite shop ;-)

I phoned the nearest Chandlers and they didn't do material at all, and local kite shop's web site
didn't mention it either. Will have a look at pennineoutdoor, then perhaps look further afield for
candlers that can send by post.

also pointnorth.co.uk (or something very similar do spinnaker ripstop at unde 4 quid per metre.

..d

Quoted message said:

Thanks
- Richard

David Martin said:

also pointnorth.co.uk (or something very similar do spinnaker ripstop at unde 4 quid per metre.

I bought some ripstop nylon from Kites-Up. Not sure if it's strong enough for what you want but it
is perfect as a camping groundsheet if that gives you any idea?

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Quoted message said:

Tim Hall said:

Hoist.

Quoted message said:

The other end is the fly.

Quoted message said:

Still pondering about flagpole suports though.

Might be able to do something with 32/40mm drain pipe and water pipe. Should be able to construct a
telescopic flagpole of up to about 5m with reasonable security.

You can buy long (from about 3 to about 10 m or so) extendible or flexible poles from some kite
places, they are used for spinners and things.

You can see the sort of thing here:

<http://www.windseekers.co.uk/>

Look under 'Wind things and poles'
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