Bottom bracket

lardyninja expressed precisely :

Quoted message said:

I have an old 80s Italian road bike and I noticed that the pedals were
a bit loose. A friend who knows about these things told me it's
actually the bottom bracket that's worn. So after visiting several LBS
and being told that they couldn't do anything I finally found one who
was prepared to take a look. He took it apart and then just put it
back together again (for no charge). Apparently it's something to do
with the mix of parts from different manufacturers and he couldn't fix
it. To be honest I didn't really understand what he was trying to
explain.

Does anyone have any ideas to solve this or anywhere in London I can
take this to be looked at? Cos I'm a little reluctant to throw the
whole bike away just cos of a worn out bottom bracket.

It's not going to be possible to answer this without knowing what the
problem is in greater detail, I'm afraid. At very least, you will need
to describe the components fitted to the bike. It's pretty certain that
the bike will have an Italian threaded bottom bracket (36 x 24F), which
makes things a bit less simple.

Can you perhaps post some photos somewhere, together with *precisely*
what the shop mechanics said, as far as you understood it? Was it more
a case of, "it can't be done for less than...£[censored]", because that would
make more sense to me. They may well be absolutely right if that's what
they've said.

One possibility is that the thread in the bottom bracket shell has
become damaged - this was more common with Italian BBs, since the RH
cup is right threaded, and comes undone more readily as a result -
which will be expensive to fix, and possibly not worth doing if the
frame is on its last legs.

Quoted message said:

BTW I can't believe how much spam is on this newsgroup now. It's
crrrrrrazy!!

Using a proper newsreader fixes that - filtering out yahoo.com.cn seems
to reduce it nicely for me at the moment.

--
Simon

lardyninja writtificated

Quoted message said:

Apparently it's something to do
with the mix of parts from different manufacturers and he couldn't fix
it. To be honest I didn't really understand what he was trying to
explain.

It could be that it takes an Italian threaded bottom bracket. He could
order one but that would prolly take a few weeks, even if he orders it that
day.

I'd be inclined to get him to explain in simple terms what the problem was
and if what parts would be needed to fix it, if possible. If it needs
particular parts you could buy 'em yourself from interwebble shops and he,
or another LBS, could fit them.

This sounds like unnecessary bother for you, but it's better than the LBS
ordering hard to find parts from dodgy interwebble outfits. IME the delay,
expense and hassle they get from customers wot don't understand the delay
is with their suppliers, not the shop, makes it Very Not Worth It a lot of
the time.

Simon D said:

It's not going to be possible to answer this without knowing what the
problem is in greater detail, I'm afraid. At very least, you will need
to describe the components fitted to the bike. It's pretty certain that
the bike will have an Italian threaded bottom bracket (36 x 24F), which
makes things a bit less simple.

Can you perhaps post some photos somewhere, together with *precisely*
what the shop mechanics said, as far as you understood it? Was it more
a case of, "it can't be done for less than...£[censored]", because that would
make more sense to me. They may well be absolutely right if that's what
they've said.

I think you are right I will have to go back to the shop and get him
to explain again (and look like a right muppet for not getting it the
first time). In my defence I was actually expecting the bike to be
fixed when I went back into the shop so I was kinda blind sided when
he explained it wasn't fixable. I do recall him saying something about
not knowing which sizes to order.

Quoted message said:

One possibility is that the thread in the bottom bracket shell has
become damaged - this was more common with Italian BBs, since the RH
cup is right threaded, and comes undone more readily as a result -
which will be expensive to fix, and possibly not worth doing if the
frame is on its last legs.

Well it was a very cheap bike (£50) but I've kinda gotten attached to
it. And I've even gotten the hang of using the shifters on the
frame :-)
And besides it feels just plain wrong to chuck it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

BTW I can't believe how much spam is on this newsgroup now. It's
crrrrrrazy!!

Using a proper newsreader fixes that - filtering out yahoo.com.cn seems
to reduce it nicely for me at the moment.

Unfortunately can't find any that don't use nntp, which is blocked
here.

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:37:02 +0100

Simon D said:

Using a proper newsreader fixes that - filtering out yahoo.com.cn
seems to reduce it nicely for me at the moment.

The address is bogus. The whole china connection is probably
bogus too - google "Joe Job". And expect more evil "from"
china in the coming months :-(

Meanwhile, filtering on a bunch of brand names, together
with words like "wholesale" and "replica" in the subject
line seems to fix it for me.

--
not me guv

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon D
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

One possibility is that the thread in the bottom bracket shell has
become damaged - this was more common with Italian BBs, since the RH
cup is right threaded, and comes undone more readily as a result -
which will be expensive to fix, and possibly not worth doing if the
frame is on its last legs.

It's no more expensive than fitting a basic cartridge bottom bracket
with a bit of epoxy to take up any slack.

lardyninja said:

Simon D said:

Quoted message said:

BTW I can't believe how much spam is on this newsgroup now. It's
crrrrrrazy!!

I agree, it used to be tolerable until recently, now it's gone mad,
getting close to unusable.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Using a proper newsreader fixes that - filtering out yahoo.com.cn seems
to reduce it nicely for me at the moment.

Unfortunately can't find any that don't use nntp, which is blocked
here.

This might help http://www.inetprivacy.com/antifirewall/ - it allows
you to hide nntp by tunelling through to a proxy. But if network
admins at "here" are really unhelpful, they can do things that make
life awkward for it. It may also not work with some nntp servers if
they validate users based on IP addresses.

Alternatively, if you have the knowledge, time and inclination to set
up an always on linux server at home, you can effectively set up your
own proxy that I don't think could be blocked. Actually, it could be
blocked but just for your own use it would almost certainly stay below
their radar.

Rob

lardyninja said:

I have an old 80s Italian road bike and I noticed that the pedals were
a bit loose. A friend who knows about these things told me it's
actually the bottom bracket that's worn. So after visiting several LBS
and being told that they couldn't do anything I finally found one who
was prepared to take a look. He took it apart and then just put it

Where are you near? It sounds like you might need a proper lbs.
TerryJ

terryJ said:

lardyninja said:

I have an old 80s Italian road bike and I noticed that the pedals were
a bit loose. A friend who knows about these things told me it's
actually the bottom bracket that's worn. So after visiting several LBS
and being told that they couldn't do anything I finally found one who
was prepared to take a look. He took it apart and then just put it

Where are you near? It sounds like you might need a proper lbs.
TerryJ

from whois NW3 area.

roger
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www.rogermerriman.com

R

Quoted message said:

from whois NW3 area.

roger

Is that London?I do not know any recent places there that would be
suitable .

terryJ said:

R

Quoted message said:

from whois NW3 area.

roger

Is that London?I do not know any recent places there that would be
suitable .

yes. i didn't think it was fair to print the address in full.

roger
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www.rogermerriman.com

(Roger Merriman) said:

yes. i didn't think it was fair to print the address in full.

roger
--www.rogermerriman.com

:-) It's Swiss Cottage

LN

lardyninja said:

(Roger Merriman) said:

yes. i didn't think it was fair to print the address in full.

roger
--www.rogermerriman.com

:-) It's Swiss Cottage

LN

yes, did you get that old bike sorted out? i have a old um well bike,
what it is no idea other than it's from 1986, slowly getting used to the
friction gearing...

roger
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www.rogermerriman.com

(Roger Merriman) said:

yes, did you get that old bike sorted out? i have a old um well bike,
what it is no idea other than it's from 1986, slowly getting used to the
friction gearing...

No I've been too busy, it'll have to wait until next month. Friction
gearing, took me a few days to get the hang of it but it's surprising
how accurate you can get with it.

LN

lardyninja said:

(Roger Merriman) said:

yes, did you get that old bike sorted out? i have a old um well bike,
what it is no idea other than it's from 1986, slowly getting used to the
friction gearing...

No I've been too busy, it'll have to wait until next month. Friction
gearing, took me a few days to get the hang of it but it's surprising
how accurate you can get with it.

LN

is quite fun, though less so when it skips while trying to get the
darling to change down, going though the downs tends to require going
back and fore though the gears faster than the old 5 cogs like!

roger
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